What if repentance is not about feeling guilty, regretful or ashamed? How do you define repentance?

[OMC]

Forgive me Jesus, a sinner. I struggle with it because I feel like I want to save some other little child from the evils (traps) I fell into that spread and I am slow so I had to learn the devils traps in order to ovoid them so I just feel like I need to tell others everything out of this mess I have found. I know it is the devil and in the end we cannot do anything about it but I feel I must warn others, even though most still refuse to look. Tell me, what is that? The trance everyone is in, you see it, I know you do. I was so lost man, and I see why, I see everything now. not everything but all the reason I went through hell... I feel like I need to show the world the path to light but I went through hell in order to get there and now I know why. Man I could show and tell thing that no one ever talks about nor thinks about because everyone feels like the system we are in, the times we are in and what we are heading for makes me want to say everything.

I wish I had someone like you in my life growing up. to set me down and explain things to me throughout but lets be honest most kids do not stand a chance why? Because we live in a system that take it all, chews it up and spits it out at us. I try so hard to be normal but I am not. It breaks me everyday. thinking about it all. I hope you and everyone understands I am not trying to preach hate because in the end I hate the sins but I see where these things (MUCH of IT) comes from. I guess some don't need shaken. I apologize and thank you.

Thank you. I do see you and you see me too, THANK YOU

Brother, thank you for saying that.

And yes, I think I understand what you're describing.

The danger is that your burden for people can slowly become a burden to control outcomes that only God can control.

You see the traps because you fell into some of them.
You see the lies because you believed some of them.
You see the darkness because Christ pulled you out of it.
That's not a bad thing. In fact, God often uses our scars to help others.

But remember something important: Noah spent decades warning people.
Jeremiah preached for years.
The prophets were ignored.
Even Jesus was rejected by many who heard Him.

Their responsibility was faithfulness, not results.

You ask: "What is that trance everyone is in?"
Scripture's answer is surprisingly simple: "The god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not" (2 Cor. 4:4).
Yet Scripture also says: "The heart is deceitful above all things" (Jer. 17:9).
The blindness is not merely "out there."
It is in fallen human nature.
That is why the solution is not merely exposing deception.
The solution is regeneration, repentance, and the work of the Spirit.

Brother, I don't think your struggle is that you care too much.
I think your struggle is that you carry too much.

You want to save every kid from making your mistakes.
You want to expose every lie.
You want people to wake up.
You want the world to make sense.
That's a burden no man can carry.

Christ never asked you to save the world.
He already has a Savior.

He asked you to follow Him.

The people you can help are often not reached through knowing everything that is wrong with the system.
They are reached because they meet someone who has been changed by Christ and can honestly say: "I was lost too."
There is great power in that testimony.

So keep warning people where appropriate.
Keep speaking truth.
But do not let the darkness become the center of your message.

The sheep are not gathered by hearing endlessly about wolves.
They are ultimately gathered by hearing the voice of the Shepherd.

And brother, from what you've written, I think your greatest witness is not what you've discovered about the world.
It is what Christ brought you out of. That is the light people need to see.

 

[Integrity]

Brother, thank you for saying that.

And yes, I think I understand what you're describing.

The danger is that your burden for people can slowly become a burden to control outcomes that only God can control.

You see the traps because you fell into some of them.
You see the lies because you believed some of them.
You see the darkness because Christ pulled you out of it.
That's not a bad thing. In fact, God often uses our scars to help others.

But remember something important: Noah spent decades warning people.
Jeremiah preached for years.
The prophets were ignored.
Even Jesus was rejected by many who heard Him.

Their responsibility was faithfulness, not results.

You ask: "What is that trance everyone is in?"
Scripture's answer is surprisingly simple: "The god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not" (2 Cor. 4:4).
Yet Scripture also says: "The heart is deceitful above all things" (Jer. 17:9).
The blindness is not merely "out there."
It is in fallen human nature.
That is why the solution is not merely exposing deception.
The solution is regeneration, repentance, and the work of the Spirit.

Brother, I don't think your struggle is that you care too much.
I think your struggle is that you carry too much.

You want to save every kid from making your mistakes.
You want to expose every lie.
You want people to wake up.
You want the world to make sense.
That's a burden no man can carry.

Christ never asked you to save the world.
He already has a Savior.

He asked you to follow Him.

The people you can help are often not reached through knowing everything that is wrong with the system.
They are reached because they meet someone who has been changed by Christ and can honestly say: "I was lost too."
There is great power in that testimony.

So keep warning people where appropriate.
Keep speaking truth.
But do not let the darkness become the center of your message.

The sheep are not gathered by hearing endlessly about wolves.
They are ultimately gathered by hearing the voice of the Shepherd.

And brother, from what you've written, I think your greatest witness is not what you've discovered about the world.
It is what Christ brought you out of. That is the light people need to see.

Thank you, from my heart and eyes full of tears, thank you. I needed the guidance and thank you. I need pray, thank you. I need read more and stop focusing on the world so much. Thank you.

 

[biblestudent78]

I am not blaming society but I am saying we are LOST, everyone is blind if they cannot see we have been mislead throughout all generations. Schools are indoctrination and the things you have learned are bias. "HUMAN FAILURE"? Saying that one can and will still go to heaven if they do not turn from these sins ( all you must do is believe) is not of my Fathers teachings. One must and will change if they truly wish to know Christ. I think we can all agree upon that. You got to take the bad out of yourself, surrender, or however you wish to put it and purify your soul... None are Good besides the Father but that does not mean we can do what we want and keep getting away with it. THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. The non-fruit will be cast out, so I believe in order to change the least we can do is change ourselves from within. know I am speaking as a sinner. I WAS A DOPE HEAD, PROSTITUTE, AND EVERYTHING BAD YOU CAN THINK THAT COMES FROM THAT, AND I DO TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR MY ROLE but you must see that children are being guided into this life of sin...

They are showing us what they want us to do or be. If you look into shows that were displayed for the public to watch around the late 50s throughout the 60s such as “Leave It to Beaver, or my favorite Andy Griffith. These shows set aside at least 30minutes at the end to display a moral lesson learned. The Majority of American families stayed intact. Then in the ’70s shows started displaying single-family sitcoms like Maude, Mary Tyler Moore, and One Day at a Time. Divorce Rates in America also skyrocketed throughout the ’70s. Then cable television started in the ’80s. New sitcoms like The Cosby Show and Family Ties both featured a new take on modern family life, with the mothers working outside of the home. These things have been studied LONG AGO and there is a direct correlation when it comes to things we see, hear, and are subject to heavily influence our society. What government has paid American influencers to promote their content and bias-fear on social media. Google, TikTok, VPN, Facebook, BlackRock, The Banking world and all the wars that have come…. Once you start noticing, you cannot stop. Rap music back in the day was designed to influence so many youths for a reason.

That shut down was a test. Imagine a world where A.I. can take any image of you and edit it as proof of a crime. Think for a moment on this, We already live in a world that is so saturated that people sound like bots. Everything they see they pretend to be and everything they hear they memorize to create a reality. No one knows what is or what is not anymore already. People have a shared linguistic ecosystem now. Anyone that does not agree with any agendas being pushed or speaks against the establishment is subject to persecution. The blind think they see.

Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the (WHAT?) leaders.”
How much better to get wisdom than gold! To get understanding is to be chosen rather than silver. Proverbs 16:16

It is, as if, everyone is under a spell, including myself at times. Why is it that people do not think anymore? “Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.”, why do we not question the history we have been taught since we keep REPEATING IT!!!?

37 assassinations in Mexico before one president won in a (90% Catholic nation) and no one questions it. who or what group eliminating all rivals?
Claudia Sheinbaum, president of Mexico.

Volodymyr Zelenskyy, President of Ukraine.

Laurentino Cortizo, President of Panama

Mikhail Mishustin, Prime Minister of Russia

Gabriel Attal, Prime Minister of France

Javier Gerardo Milei President of Argentina.

Do you still not see? It is our fault that we are still allowing this fire to spread, we did not start the fire but the least we can do is connect some dots. None of these people are Christian btw. For how can one be Christian if they do not believe Jesus was the son? Something is blinding, and I believe it is sin. Many are too pridful to admit all of humanity is retarded and we have been easily lead and lied to our whole lives. They just cannot fathom it and I do not know why.

all are part of the same book club that truly contridics Christ, and I am not speaking about the muslims. So why for the life of me people can be so mad at those who have been paid to come here without batting an eye at those who FUNDED the invations, its beyond me.... They get to have their own land but make Chritians fight for it while they flood our own lands??? WHAT ARE PEOPLE NOT SEEING? ALL THE ISIMS look back you will see they are surrounded by these puppet masters. They created all the divistion and terroisim. KING DAVID HOSTEL!!!

 

[biblestudent78]

Integrity:
The story of mankind is a story of moral failure personally and socially. You seem pretty aware of current or recent issues of corruption, so let me take you back.
Integrity:
As I noted there is a lot wrong with many societies and always has been. I would remind all of us that across all the major prophets and all the minor prophets a significant portion of their criticism of the power structures of their time was that they were corrupt. The rich predated on the poor. They stole land, they defrauded the poor with false weights, etd. The powerful were preditory on the powerless and the immorality of their societies was unacceptable to God.

Isiah condemned leaders who "grind the faces of the poor" and devour the houses of widows and orphans.
Judicial Corruption: He spoke out against judges and officials who accepted bribes and denied justice to the marginalized (Isaiah 1:23, 5:23).Land Grabbing: He pronounced "woe" on the wealthy who bought up all the land and houses so that there was no room left for the poor. Meaningless Rituals: He declared that their prayers, offerings, and festivals were detestable to God because their hands were "full of blood" from oppressing others (Isaiah 1:11-15) Human Pride: He continually attacked the pride, haughtiness, and self-sufficiency of the nation, warning that all human arrogance would be humbled (Isaiah 2:11-17) Hypocrisy: The people committed rampant sins—stealing, murder, adultery, and lying—while still claiming they were safe merely because they attended the temple.

Jeramiah' criticized Oppression of the Vulnerable: Jeremiah 5 and 7 specifically condemn the rich and the judges for exploiting the poor, taking advantage of widows, and ignoring the needs of orphans and foreigners. Deception and Bribery: Truth had perished in the streets. Society was marked by deceit, slander, and a total inability to trust one another. Ezekiel criticized Social Oppression and Violence: The shedding of innocent blood, extortion, and the systemic abuse of the vulnerable, including widows, orphans, resident foreigners, and the poor. Corruption of Leaders: Princes and government officials acting like predatory wolves to gain dishonest wealth, and priests disregarding the Law and failing to distinguish between the holy and the profane. Corruption of Leaders: Princes and government officials acting like predatory wolves to gain dishonest wealth, and priests disregarding the Law and failing to distinguish between the holy and the profane.

Amos Often called the prophet of social justice, he fiercely denounced the elite for luxurious living built on the backs of the poor. He famously condemned those who "buy the poor for silver and the needy for a pair of sandals". He fiercely criticized the wealthy for exploiting the poor, trampling on the needy, and taking bribes. He famously declared, "Let justice roll on like a river, righteousness like a never-failing stream!"

Corruption in Israel started with the Judges, Deborah, Gideon and Samson. Few leaders were more corrupt than Saul, David, Solomon, Jeroboam I, Omri, Jehu, Hoshea and Ahab. In Judea the corrupt kings included Rehoboam, Abijah, Jehoram, Ahariah, Josah, Ahaz, Jehoahaz. The Northern Kingdom of Israel lasted about 200 years in total. The southern kingdom of Judah was independent for only 111 years when they were captured by the Babylonians in waves around 586 BC, then ruled by the Persian and later the Greeks until 141 BC when they gained self rule again. That lasted only 111 years until 70 AD.

You have cataloged corruption in our society. Allow me to use our prophets as a basis for criticizing our "Christian Leaders." There is too much corruption to mention all of them but beginning with landmark investigative reporting into the Archdiocese of Boston in 2002 (and expanding worldwide for decades), widespread revelations showed that Catholic bishops systematically moved or protected clergy members accused of child sexual abuse rather than reporting them to law enforcement. n 2022, a sweeping third-party investigation revealed that SBC executive committee leaders for decades suppressed abuse claims, demonized victims, and resisted reforms to protect church autonomy over child safety. They have eliminated their sex offender registry.
• Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker / PTL Club (1989): Televangelist Jim Bakker was convicted of financial fraud and conspiracy involving $158 million raised through his Praise the Lord (PTL) ministry, leading to a lengthy prison sentence.
• Jimmy Swaggart (1988–1991): High-profile television evangelist Jimmy Swaggart lost his multi-million-dollar media empire after multiple public scandals involving sex workers.
• Ravi Zacharias (2020–2021): Posthumous investigations into global apologist Ravi Zacharias revealed decades of severe sexual abuse, coercion, and spiritual manipulation targeting massage therapists and women.
• Robert Morris (2025): The founder of Gateway Church in Texas pleaded guilty in October 2025 to multiple counts of lewd or indecent acts with a child dating back decades, leading to his resignation and criminal conviction.
• Assemblies of God Cover-Ups: Investigations highlighted nearly 200 church leaders and volunteers within the Assemblies of God network who were accused of abusing hundreds of individuals, often shielded by local-church autonomy policies and resistance to mandatory reporting. 11 Pentecostal leaders were found guilty of crimes. 12 Major Protestant leaders were convicted of crimes. The "prosperity Gospel" is emptying the pockets of the poor to make multi-millionaires of their pastors.

 

[Integrity]

Integrity:
The story of mankind is a story of moral failure personally and socially. You seem pretty aware of current or recent issues of corruption, so let me take you back.
Integrity:
As I noted there is a lot wrong with many societies and always has been. I would remind all of us that across all the major prophets and all the minor prophets a significant portion of their criticism of the power structures of their time was that they were corrupt. The rich predated on the poor. They stole land, they defrauded the poor with false weights, etd. The powerful were preditory on the powerless and the immorality of their societies was unacceptable to God.

Isiah condemned leaders who "grind the faces of the poor" and devour the houses of widows and orphans.
Judicial Corruption: He spoke out against judges and officials who accepted bribes and denied justice to the marginalized (Isaiah 1:23, 5:23).Land Grabbing: He pronounced "woe" on the wealthy who bought up all the land and houses so that there was no room left for the poor. Meaningless Rituals: He declared that their prayers, offerings, and festivals were detestable to God because their hands were "full of blood" from oppressing others (Isaiah 1:11-15) Human Pride: He continually attacked the pride, haughtiness, and self-sufficiency of the nation, warning that all human arrogance would be humbled (Isaiah 2:11-17) Hypocrisy: The people committed rampant sins—stealing, murder, adultery, and lying—while still claiming they were safe merely because they attended the temple.

Jeramiah' criticized Oppression of the Vulnerable: Jeremiah 5 and 7 specifically condemn the rich and the judges for exploiting the poor, taking advantage of widows, and ignoring the needs of orphans and foreigners. Deception and Bribery: Truth had perished in the streets. Society was marked by deceit, slander, and a total inability to trust one another. Ezekiel criticized Social Oppression and Violence: The shedding of innocent blood, extortion, and the systemic abuse of the vulnerable, including widows, orphans, resident foreigners, and the poor. Corruption of Leaders: Princes and government officials acting like predatory wolves to gain dishonest wealth, and priests disregarding the Law and failing to distinguish between the holy and the profane. Corruption of Leaders: Princes and government officials acting like predatory wolves to gain dishonest wealth, and priests disregarding the Law and failing to distinguish between the holy and the profane.

Amos Often called the prophet of social justice, he fiercely denounced the elite for luxurious living built on the backs of the poor. He famously condemned those who "buy the poor for silver and the needy for a pair of sandals". He fiercely criticized the wealthy for exploiting the poor, trampling on the needy, and taking bribes. He famously declared, "Let justice roll on like a river, righteousness like a never-failing stream!"

Corruption in Israel started with the Judges, Deborah, Gideon and Samson. Few leaders were more corrupt than Saul, David, Solomon, Jeroboam I, Omri, Jehu, Hoshea and Ahab. In Judea the corrupt kings included Rehoboam, Abijah, Jehoram, Ahariah, Josah, Ahaz, Jehoahaz. The Northern Kingdom of Israel lasted about 200 years in total. The southern kingdom of Judah was independent for only 111 years when they were captured by the Babylonians in waves around 586 BC, then ruled by the Persian and later the Greeks until 141 BC when they gained self rule again. That lasted only 111 years until 70 AD.

You have cataloged corruption in our society. Allow me to use our prophets as a basis for criticizing our "Christian Leaders." There is too much corruption to mention all of them but beginning with landmark investigative reporting into the Archdiocese of Boston in 2002 (and expanding worldwide for decades), widespread revelations showed that Catholic bishops systematically moved or protected clergy members accused of child sexual abuse rather than reporting them to law enforcement. n 2022, a sweeping third-party investigation revealed that SBC executive committee leaders for decades suppressed abuse claims, demonized victims, and resisted reforms to protect church autonomy over child safety. They have eliminated their sex offender registry.
• Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker / PTL Club (1989): Televangelist Jim Bakker was convicted of financial fraud and conspiracy involving $158 million raised through his Praise the Lord (PTL) ministry, leading to a lengthy prison sentence.
• Jimmy Swaggart (1988–1991): High-profile television evangelist Jimmy Swaggart lost his multi-million-dollar media empire after multiple public scandals involving sex workers.
• Ravi Zacharias (2020–2021): Posthumous investigations into global apologist Ravi Zacharias revealed decades of severe sexual abuse, coercion, and spiritual manipulation targeting massage therapists and women.
• Robert Morris (2025): The founder of Gateway Church in Texas pleaded guilty in October 2025 to multiple counts of lewd or indecent acts with a child dating back decades, leading to his resignation and criminal conviction.
• Assemblies of God Cover-Ups: Investigations highlighted nearly 200 church leaders and volunteers within the Assemblies of God network who were accused of abusing hundreds of individuals, often shielded by local-church autonomy policies and resistance to mandatory reporting. 11 Pentecostal leaders were found guilty of crimes. 12 Major Protestant leaders were convicted of crimes. The "prosperity Gospel" is emptying the pockets of the poor to make multi-millionaires of their pastors.

Thank you.

 

[bytheblood]

You notably did not answer any of my questions.

In Deuteronomy 30, it forms the basis for the New Covenant by prophesying about a time when the Israelites will return from exile, God will circumcise their hearts, and they will return to obedience to the Torah, which is what Jeremiah 31:33 and Ezekiel 36:26-27 are in regard to. In Jeremiah 31:33, the New Covenant involves God putting the Mosaic Law in our minds and writing it on our hearts, and in Ezekiel 36:26-27, it involves God taking away our hearts of stone, giving us hearts of flesh, and sending His Spirit to lead us in obedience to the Torah, so those who want nothing to do with following Christ's example of obedience to it also want nothing to with being under the New Covenant. Jesus spent his ministry teaching his followers to obey the Torah by word and by example and the reason why he established the New Covenant was not in order to nullify anything that he spent his ministry teaching or so that we could continue to have the same lawlessness that caused it to be needed in the first place, but rather it still involve following the Torah.

In Hebrews 8:7-9, the fault that God found with the Mosaic Covenant was not with His righteousness or righteous laws, but rather He found fault with the people for not continuing in their covenant, so the reason why the New Covenant was needed was not in order to do way with God's righteousness and righteous laws but to do away with what was hindering us from obeying them. This is why the New Covenant involve God sending us His Son to free us from sin so that we might be free to meet the righteous requirement of the Torah (Romans 8:3-4), God taking away our hearts of stone, giving us hearts of flesh, and sending His Spirit to lead us in obedience to the Torah (Ezekiel 36:26-27), and God putting the Torah in our minds and writing it on our hearts so that we will obey it (Jeremiah 31:33).

".... but rather He found fault with the people for not continuing in their covenant,..." You act as if God didn't know the end from the beginning. God gave the law KNOWING that mere man could not fulfill it, and thereby should have caused them to realize that they, like all mankind, needed a Savior.

I believe there may be a different thrust involved here.

Yes, there is the Law of the Lord.

Not to be confused with the Law of Moses.

Soyeong has been insisting that Christians should follow the Mosaic Law, I insist the Law of Love. Now if the Law of the Lord, as you call it, is the same as the Law of Love than we agree, if not I need you to explain what you say the Law of the Lord is.