Oh this filthy Duke again..The War on Christmas

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By the way he is a Christian!

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCLnie3HPMg[/video]
 
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TheGrungeDiva

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Did you notice he misspelled "heritage" on the front? It was spelled "heriage". What an idiot.

My problem with this, as I've said, is not that I don't want Christian traditions in my secular life, but that I don't want SECULARISM in my Christian life. The tree with lights is not a Christian tradition. Santa Claus is not a Christian tradition. I don't care if these things are in schools and public parks. Just don't refer to them with the name of MY Lord and savior.

DO NOT TAKE THE NAME OF THE LORD IN VAIN
 

Red_Tory

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"Every nation has the right to preserve its culture and traditions"


Total nonsense. I think anyone who actually believes this needs a good smack in the face.
 
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"Every nation has the right to preserve its culture and traditions"


Total nonsense. I think anyone who actually believes this needs a good smack in the face.
By that logic you'd be okay if we were ever invaded by Iraq and forced to convert to Islam and live by their values and traditions.
 
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TheGrungeDiva

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I'm surprised by some of the people who are coming out against him. I would have thought he was right up their alley.
 

Red_Tory

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By that logic you'd be okay if we were ever invaded by Iraq and forced to convert to Islam and live by their values and traditions.

No, but by stating that nations have the "right" to preserve their culture and traditions one seeks to justify the heinously immoral acts because they are culturally significant.

Let's think about a hypothetical nation in which the cultural values dictate that certain members of an arbitrarily selected minority (think of classifications based on gender, race, disabilities etc.) are subject to horrific oppression. In this culture it is regarded as appropriate to treat these people poorly.

Do these people have a "right" to preserve their oppressive traditions?


You are trying to set up a straw man with your Iraq argument. The "logic" behind my previous post is that there exists an objective moral law that supersedes human institutions, and that we should not suffer the existence of any vile "cultural tradition" that contradicts this moral law; there are some cultural traditions that are good and some that are evil. Nations should not have the "right" to preserve and uphold the evil ones.

Let's take another example. In certain nations, women can be punished for the "crime" of being raped. This is how law operates within the confines of their cultural traditions. Do they have a "right" to preserve this? Is anyone who attempts to violate this right actually doing something evil?

In fact, I would say that following the logic behind the notion of "preserving cultural traditions" will eventually cause us to collapse into uncritical moral relativism, which is essentially tantamount to ethical and intellectual suicide.
 

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All the nice guys totally left out the main topic.
The first one called him an idiot.
The second one even not only want to smack him in the face but also those who think that way.
Why is that?
Just revealing and self unmasking..
 

Red_Tory

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All the nice guys totally left out the main topic.
The first one called him an idiot.
The second one even not only want to smack him in the face but also those who think that way.
Why is that?
Just revealing and self unmasking..

He's right about a lot of the "war on Christmas" stuff (I personally don't attach too much importance to Christmas). I only said he should be smacked in the face because the opening of his video sounds like way too liberal and tolerant.
 

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The Highest Levels of Hypocrisy — The Menorah/Hanukkah Double Standard!

My video, The Jewish War on Christmas!, shows three things with absolute clarity:
1) That while overt Christian symbols such as crosses or manger scenes are banned from public ground in America, overt symbols of the Jewish religion are legally displayed and promoted on public land all over the United States.
2) That such hypocrisy reveals the real rulers of America. Two percent of the population get their way, but the overwhelming majority of the American people are prohibited from their religious and cultural expressions.
3) That Hanukkah and the Menorah as it’s symbol (and that of Judaism) is a celebration of Jewish separateness and supremacy from other peoples. In an America where the media preaches assimilation, we have huge symbols in some of America’s most sacred places promoting Jewish “resistance to assimilation.”
Here is a photo copy of an article from Jewish learning on its websites about Hanukkah. You can easily check out the real meaning of Hanukkah on the Internet. You will find the true Judaic meaning of Hanukkah as compared to the lies that they give out for Gentile consumption. It shows “The Festival of Chanukah” and how it is “Dedicated against Assimilation.
All of this should stimulate many questions from unawakened Gentiles to the phenomenon of Jewish supremacism. How can a Jewish dominated national media in America that promotes assimilation for all races and peoples in America — also promote huge symbols erected to promote Jewish resistance to assimilation? The answer is complex, but essentially it is that racial assimilation, multiculturalism, massive diverse immigration are weapons used by Jewish supremacists to dominate our society. I quote leading Jews who openly speak of “divide and conquer” and unashamedly promote Jewish solidarity, the Jewish and Israeli agenda and “non-assimilation.” A neat trick, isn’t it? And no where is the hypocrisy more revealed than the giant Menorah erected across from the White House in the same places where symbols of the Christian religion are banned.

Dr. David Duke
Audio:

http://www.davidduke.com/mp3/dukehanukkah.mp3
 
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Helloimandrewyo

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Christiany is all about being set apart from the world, and not assimilating. So good for the JEWS!

They should be assimilating. Thats what got them in trouble in babylon.
 
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Helloimandrewyo

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Rather they should not be assimilating.
 
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Helloimandrewyo

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This video is funny.

Like basically 100% of christmas roots are pagan in origin, and people are upset because someone doesn't want PAGAN sybolism around him? Seems like a weird thing to get upset about. Doesn't Paul write to beware of traditions of men? Why is this so devastating?
 
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Helloimandrewyo

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No, but by stating that nations have the "right" to preserve their culture and traditions one seeks to justify the heinously immoral acts because they are culturally significant.

Let's think about a hypothetical nation in which the cultural values dictate that certain members of an arbitrarily selected minority (think of classifications based on gender, race, disabilities etc.) are subject to horrific oppression. In this culture it is regarded as appropriate to treat these people poorly.

Do these people have a "right" to preserve their oppressive traditions?


You are trying to set up a straw man with your Iraq argument. The "logic" behind my previous post is that there exists an objective moral law that supersedes human institutions, and that we should not suffer the existence of any vile "cultural tradition" that contradicts this moral law; there are some cultural traditions that are good and some that are evil. Nations should not have the "right" to preserve and uphold the evil ones.

Let's take another example. In certain nations, women can be punished for the "crime" of being raped. This is how law operates within the confines of their cultural traditions. Do they have a "right" to preserve this? Is anyone who attempts to violate this right actually doing something evil?

In fact, I would say that following the logic behind the notion of "preserving cultural traditions" will eventually cause us to collapse into uncritical moral relativism, which is essentially tantamount to ethical and intellectual suicide.
I agree with this completely.
 

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(V)Jews had a long standing in babylon.
And they liked it a lot cause they where partaking behind the scene..
And they liked it.
Esther, mordecai, jewish political control led to today annual celebration of the death,
called purim and preemptive wars against an common enemy the non jew, also called goym or gentile.

This jewish, talmudic supremarcy has of cause nothing to do with Jesus Christ and Gods Gospel, cause most jews are antichrist or atheist nihilists!
Why? Cause they are their own g_d and messiah!
 
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Helloimandrewyo

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dude, i can say the sky is pink all day long, doesn't make it true.

You have no facts or evidence, you just go off of stuff you heard that other people say. I have a 4 year old son who does that too, but as i said he is 4.

The bible contains so many psalms about how they were wanting to get out of babylon. yes they had a history there, and it was all weeping. Psalm 137, they were in babylon in the midst of their captivity in a pagan land. Yet there they sat by the rivers and wept over their lost city of zion. Its not like it was a vacation for them.
 
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Helloimandrewyo

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What do you believe anyways. you never really post anything about what YOU believe.

You just post neo-nazi/white supremacy propoganda.
 

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Baloney , just investigate and educate yourself youngster before you blame others.
Who are you to blame me with your 38 posts? Did you read all my 266 postings?
 
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Helloimandrewyo

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I have studied and investigated. All i have seen is people who share my feelings.

My amount of posting has nothing to do with anything. So what i know when to keep my mouth shut and not just post garbage all the time? I can live with that.

You never answered my question, so i must deduct you believe in nothing. Which would go along with your anti-christian/anti-judiasm filth.

I hope you can remove the plank from your eye brother. The only thing promised to those who do not stand with Israel is demise, and i don't want that for you. Yet it is promised, and if you look through history that is one promise that God has always made good on. Ask the Third Reich.
 
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TheGrungeDiva

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This video is funny.

Like basically 100% of christmas roots are pagan in origin, and people are upset because someone doesn't want PAGAN sybolism around him? Seems like a weird thing to get upset about. Doesn't Paul write to beware of traditions of men? Why is this so devastating?
This is what I've been trying to say for decades.

Personally, I don't like it when people refer to the tree as a "Christmas Tree," because it is not a Christian symbol. The tree, decorated with lights and other trinkets and objects, is a pagan tradition, stolen from the holiday of Saturnalia/Winter Solstice. And although "Santa Claus" is a bastardization of the name of "Saint Nicklaus," a Christian martyr from the 6th Century, the modern myth of Santa bears almost NO resemblance to the original Saint. The Saint wore white, not red. He was not fat and did not live at the North Pole. He was fond of children, and often brought them gifts, but no moreso on Christmas than at any other time of the year. He did not drive in a flying sleigh pulled by eight flying reindeer..... That is all pagan myth. (DUH!)

The reason I prefer to say "Happy Holidays" in public, or why I call it a "Decorated Tree" instead of a Christmas Tree, why I call it "Winter Break" instead of "Christmas Break," why they are "Winter songs" instead of "Christmas Carols" (except for the songs that are actual religious sacred hymns about Jesus).... is not because I don't want Christ in my secular life. It's because I don't want commercialism and consumerism in my Christian life. Honestly, I don't understand why there are so many Christians who seem perfectly fine with a Santa and Reindeer in their manger scene: isn't that idolatry? The same people who get all up-in-arms about homosexuality (which isn't even in the 10 commandments) and abortion are bowing down to a pagan symbol like it's the golden calf, and they have the audacity to lecture ME about a war against Christianity?

Yes, I do get a little angry about it. I think God probably does, too.
 
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systemdown101

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Baloney , just investigate and educate yourself youngster before you blame others.
Who are you to blame me with your 38 posts? Did you read all my 266 postings?
I've read many of your posts. Let's start with this one:

Pardon? Address your accusations to your leaders not me.
No the jews are not(!) the all time victims, with an unique selling point
backed with their huge money and established, instigated political correctness
from their worldwide thousands of lobby organizations.
They are the perpetrators till today! They are the ones who should be on
worldwide trial and they should be expelled from all foreign nations.

They should give away their second passport cause they have have no loyalty
for the nation they live in.
I'm still waiting for you to tell us what kind of sentence the Jews should get. And if not the death penalty, what kind of camp do you think they should be put in, both while awaiting trial and/or afterwards?