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You are not Christian and with this fruit you are definitely on your way to hell. It's just the way it is. We know a tree by it's fruit and you are not in Christ, nor do You know Him, the power of His grace, or its influence upon the heart.
What you said here undermines the power of the LORD to make an old man into a new creation. You are full of pride.
Psa 18:12 At the brightness that was before him his thick clouds passed, hail stones and coals of fire.
Psa 18:13 The LORD also thundered in the heavens, and the Highest gave his voice; hail stones and coals of fire.
Psa 18:14 Yea, he sent out his arrows, and scattered them; and he shot out lightnings, and discomfited them.
Psa 18:15 Then the channels of waters were seen, and the foundations of the world were discovered at thy rebuke, O LORD, at the blast of the breath of thy nostrils.
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Don't think that I am condemning you. It is the Law of Moses that condemns you. If you scoff at this you are in great trouble and the corrupt fruit/works in your life is going to increase exponentially and the LORD will reward you according to your works.
Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Gal 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Mat 16:23[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] But he turned, and said unto Peter, [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Mat 16:24[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] Then said Jesus unto his disciples, [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]If any[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]man[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Mat 16:25[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Mat 16:26[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Mat 16:27[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. [/FONT]
2Ti 4:14 Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works:
2Ti 4:15 Of whom be thou ware also; for he hath greatly withstood our words.
If this scares you, then there is hope for you yet, if you humble yourself before the LORD, and stand upon the Word of GOD by declaring it.
Jesus says that He doesn't condemn you and neither do I. You are already condemned if you do not abide in Christ (this means to believe with works of love following to show that your faith is indeed alive).
Right now, whatever faith you claim to have, is dead.
You are to love your brother as Christ has love you.
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Joh 13:34[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Joh 13:35[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] By this shall all [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]men[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.[/FONT]
DO YOU CARE?
If you keep going in this direction of a faithless and loveless life, claiming to be a Christian, the LORD will remove His Spirit from you and Satan will enter you.
If you are not a Christian, and know it, then I forgive you and pray that the Lord forgives you too.
I love you and want to warn you that it's important, for your own sake, to stop coming up against believers.
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hislastwalk,
I want to encourage you that the LORD's Grace is able to remove lustful desires from human temples completely. You will still be able to sense the temptation from the spirit of the world, but, it will have no place in you.
The temptations will back off too as you use the Word of the LORD against them.
You will be able to look upon a person without lust in your eyes or heart, as a small child would look upon a person.
What you are having to repress now will become [be replaced with] a river of living water flowing out of from you. Mark my words.
You are on a great path and I am excited to see what the LORD is doing in your life.
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I know it gets more silent as I go on, but as far as it magically changing overnight, thats very rare. I'm ok with this though, it'll just pull me closer to God. Actually, I'm writing a book about this. How the church gives satan to much credit, when homosexuality is just someone making their choice. I believed the lie of the enemy. I was deceived. But when your deceived, you don't know you are. Amen?
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Amen.
Call the CBN prayer line and confess what has happened from between the night the youth pastor prayed for you and now. It doesn't have to be in great detail, the point is getting in right relationship with the LORD in a child to Father sense.
Saying,
Father, I need your help, I want to bring the temptations that I do hear and am tempted [feel myself responding to on the inside] to act upon, to You [standing on Christ first] as my Heavenly Father.
I want to see Your Grace work effectively in my heart. I especially bring these specific temptations that I have acted upon into Your light
[list the corrupt fruit to the person praying with you - it doesn't have to go into detail, just the corrupt fruit as listed on the previous post in this thread].
Lead me not into temptation, deliver me from evil, let me not to be deceived, give me Love above all and perfect Love in my heart.
In Jesus Name, Amen.
I say to call the CBN prayer line not because I agree with everything they teach, but, because they are graced by the LORD in the power of prayer and they have shown me much love in their kindness towards me. Also, because we need to move as an army and I stand with them in their prayers, having been able to pray with them, for them, several times.
After confession, confess who you are in the LORD. Use the pm I sent you. If you mess up again, call the prayer line again and confess.
Habitual confession is in direct opposition to any demonic, destructive habit. It will surge up within your spirit like a river of life against the flow of lust and pride [and those lustful/prideful ways of thinking], and this river of living water will conquer lust and pride.
Call the CBN prayer line and confess what has happened from between the night the youth pastor prayed for you and now. It doesn't have to be in great detail, the point is getting in right relationship with the LORD in a child to Father sense.
Saying,
Father, I need your help, I want to bring the temptations that I do hear and am tempted [feel myself responding to on the inside] to act upon, to You [standing on Christ first] as my Heavenly Father.
I want to see Your Grace work effectively in my heart. I especially bring these specific temptations that I have acted upon into Your light
[list the corrupt fruit to the person praying with you - it doesn't have to go into detail, just the corrupt fruit as listed on the previous post in this thread].
Lead me not into temptation, deliver me from evil, let me not to be deceived, give me Love above all and perfect Love in my heart.
In Jesus Name, Amen.
I say to call the CBN prayer line not because I agree with everything they teach, but, because they are graced by the LORD in the power of prayer and they have shown me much love in their kindness towards me. Also, because we need to move as an army and I stand with them in their prayers, having been able to pray with them, for them, several times.
After confession, confess who you are in the LORD. Use the pm I sent you. If you mess up again, call the prayer line again and confess.
Habitual confession is in direct opposition to any demonic, destructive habit. It will surge up within your spirit like a river of life against the flow of lust and pride [and those lustful/prideful ways of thinking], and this river of living water will conquer lust and pride.
No, it's not me being prideful, it's scientific fact, it's 50-odd years of mental and physical torture to people who are gay. Obviously, they don't use the same dangerous techniques they used to, but the message is still the same. "Change or go to hell" It's ridiculous. Tell a young kid struggling with their sexuality that he's gonna go to Hell b/c God hates who he is... Yeah, that's "Christian." It's the opposite. It's hateful, dangerous and moronic to believe that anything like that is okay. Kids get brainwashed into believing that anything they do that doesn't receive a pat on their head from their pastor is evil, it's becoming an epidemic. I bet the kids that got molested listened to their priest and believed him wholeheartedly too.
And if you believe nothing I say, go look what the American Psychological Association, American Medical Association, American Psychiatric Association, the National Association of Social Workers and the American Nurses Association have to say about "conversion therapy" on gay people. I think they would know better than you.
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It's not me that you or those associations are fighting against. It's the Word of God they are fighting against, and I know it's [His Word] power to save and change a person from a creature dead in sins to a new creature alive in Christ.
Examine your fruit. A man reaps what he sows. You can make a decision for Christ now, or 20-40 years down the road. If you live past today, you never know when the Lord will require your soul from you.
If you have abiding belief in Christ, then you are to walk as he walked.
Yet, you are worldly and deceived and this is all foolishness to you.
Is this vague?
1Co 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1Co 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1Co 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
1Co 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
It seems straightforward to me.
Mar 6:11 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
Examine your fruit. A man reaps what he sows. You can make a decision for Christ now, or 20-40 years down the road. If you live past today, you never know when the Lord will require your soul from you.
If you have abiding belief in Christ, then you are to walk as he walked.
Yet, you are worldly and deceived and this is all foolishness to you.
Is this vague?
1Co 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1Co 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1Co 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
1Co 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
It seems straightforward to me.
Mar 6:11 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
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The owner of Exodus International even says it doesn't turn you straight, you still are gay, you just repress natural sexual thoughts to avoid "appearing" homosexual.
And no, I'm just a religion major and I've read the different translations of the verses that claim to be talking about homosexuality and it's pretty iffy...
And no, I'm just a religion major and I've read the different translations of the verses that claim to be talking about homosexuality and it's pretty iffy...
Besides the fact that I can refute everything you just said about homosexuality with correct translation of Hebrew and Greek...
Drug addicts can become fully clean and no longer addicted to drugs or even want them... If you're gay, you're gay forever. It's science, no amount of prayer or electric shock therapy will make you straight.
Drug addicts can become fully clean and no longer addicted to drugs or even want them... If you're gay, you're gay forever. It's science, no amount of prayer or electric shock therapy will make you straight.
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the opposite of homosexuality is not heterosexuality, it's holiness. You are deceived, and your a false prophet, your way of thinking does not line up with the word of God. God bless, please do not reply, since you obviously can't come up with anything to prove me wrong 
the word of GOD IS ALIVE!!!! And He lives in me <3
the word of GOD IS ALIVE!!!! And He lives in me <3
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You are contending with the LORD. Not me or any man.
Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Why there is same sex lust:
Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
The god that you [fsuboy] abide in is Satan, not the God of this scripture. We know a tree by it's fruit.
Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
I am warning you, this is you:
Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
The fruit of sin grows into death. There's no way around it, outside of Christ. The fruit of homosexuality is not in Christ. If we abide in him, we should also walk like him.
Fornication is anything sexual outside of a man and woman marriage, as God ordained.
Gen 2:21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
Gen 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Man and man do not make one flesh.
Woman and woman does not make one flesh.
You though, do not care what I say. Even worse, you are saying that God can not make old things new. You are saying that He can not turn water into wine.
It is scientifically proven that we can not create a new Earth or live without the sun, nor can we make rocks cry out or command armies to rise from the ashes. We can not make donkeys talk or the sun and moon stand still.
But, God can.
God can make an old man new. He can make a new creation to live in a dead mortal body, that is yet alive, quickened by His Spirit.
2Co 5:14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
2Co 5:15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
2Co 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
This means that we die to the flesh and live unto Christ and walk as He did. The only type of "MARRIAGE" [which means a union] that God allows it the only union that can be made... between a man and woman to become one flesh.
2Co 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
2Co 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
2Co 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
And like he did with Elihu in the book of Job, he is going to shake your world and your name will never be mentioned again.
Though, for you, fsuboy, I pray that you are saved.
The words that are coming out of your mouth, however, belong to Satan. The LORD rebuke you Satan.
Time is short.
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Mat 5:28 ...I say unto you, That whosoever looks on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate [G3120], nor abusers of themselves with mankind [G733],
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
G3120
μαλακός
malakos
mal-ak-os'
Of uncertain affinity; soft, that is, fine (clothing); figuratively a catamite: - effeminate, soft.
G733
ἀρσενοκοίτης
arsenokoitēs
ar-sen-ok-oy'-tace
From G730 and G2845; a sodomite: - abuser of (that defile) self with mankind.
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate [G3120], nor abusers of themselves with mankind [G733],
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
G3120
μαλακός
malakos
mal-ak-os'
Of uncertain affinity; soft, that is, fine (clothing); figuratively a catamite: - effeminate, soft.
G733
ἀρσενοκοίτης
arsenokoitēs
ar-sen-ok-oy'-tace
From G730 and G2845; a sodomite: - abuser of (that defile) self with mankind.
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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Negative.
Are you saying that you are a good person?
You will only be able to justify yourself for so long up against God's Word.
You will soon have to find something to solid to stand on, or the storm will wash you away.
Psa 18:12 At the brightness that was before him his thick clouds passed, hail stones and coals of fire.
Psa 18:13 The LORD also thundered in the heavens, and the Highest gave his voice; hail stones and coals of fire.
Psa 18:14 Yea, he sent out his arrows, and scattered them; and he shot out lightnings, and discomfited them.
Psa 18:15 Then the channels of waters were seen, and the foundations of the world were discovered at thy rebuke, O LORD, at the blast of the breath of thy nostrils.
The brightness is pride.
The storm is the vengeance of the Day of the LORD.
Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Rev 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
Rev 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
Rev 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
Jas 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
It is not God nor I that is condemning you.
Joh 3:17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Joh 3:18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Joh 3:19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Joh 3:20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
Joh 3:21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
You condemn yourself if you do not abide in Christ and bear fruit/works of love as described in Luke chapter 6.
A tree is known by it's fruit.
Mat 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
Mat 3:9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
Mat 3:10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.