The Last Day

[prophecyman]

The last day is not the final day, but signifys the end of the age. On the final day of Gentile rule Maschiach appears in the heaven, for that rock that was cut out without hands shall strike at the feet of the great image, he becomes a mountain that fills the earth. This is the same time that he sends out his holy angels to gather his elect (chosen).

They shall cast their silver and gold in dens and caves, they shall say... hide us from the face of him that sits on the throne, for this is the day of the lambs great wrath, and they shall beg the mountains and rocks to cover them.

A great purging shall commence and men shall be consumed right where they stand, their eyes melting into their eye sockets, God has prepared the great feast and beckons the beasts and birds of the air to eat much flesh.

After the great purge, he decends on the Mount of Olives and splits it in two, oh earth and you that remain give glory to his name and keep the appointed time of tabernacles, for he will require it at your hand.

After the 1000 years, the great white throne judgement is set and all the unrighteous dead are raised to damnation, Satan is cast in the lake of fire where the beast and false prophet are, then all of hell is cast into the lake of fire in the presence of the holy angels.

The New Jerusalem decends out of heaven from YHVH upon the earth, and he says as he declares... Behold I make all things new, for the former heaven and earth I will not remember, nor shall it come to mind, but I will cast the earth from my sight and burn the elements with fervent heat.

 

[peterT]

The last day is not the final day, but signifys the end of the age. On the final day of Gentile rule Maschiach appears in the heaven, for that rock that was cut out without hands shall strike at the feet of the great image, he becomes a mountain that fills the earth. This is the same time that he sends out his holy angels to gather his elect (chosen).

They shall cast their silver and gold in dens and caves, they shall say... hide us from the face of him that sits on the throne, for this is the day of the lambs great wrath, and they shall beg the mountains and rocks to cover them.

A great purging shall commence and men shall be consumed right where they stand, their eyes melting into their eye sockets, God has prepared the great feast and beckons the beasts and birds of the air to eat much flesh.

After the great purge, he decends on the Mount of Olives and splits it in two, oh earth and you that remain give glory to his name and keep the appointed time of tabernacles, for he will require it at your hand.

After the 1000 years, the great white throne judgement is set and all the unrighteous dead are raised to damnation, Satan is cast in the lake of fire where the beast and false prophet are, then all of hell is cast into the lake of fire in the presence of the holy angels.

The New Jerusalem decends out of heaven from YHVH upon the earth, and he says as he declares... Behold I make all things new, for the former heaven and earth I will not remember, nor shall it come to mind, but I will cast the earth from my sight and burn the elements with fervent heat.

I think the last trumpet is the last day for us Christians, and for us time shall be no longer.

Rv10:6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: 7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

I think that’s what you are saying.

 

[prophecyman]

Actually I wanted to show the prophecy of Daniel in regards to Gentile rule coming to an end, as well as the time for Christians being ressurected or changed at the last day.

Multible prophecies will be fulfilled at the same time or are in the process of being fulfilled during this time.

According to time lines already established in regards to the birth of Christ (Machiach) which carefully researched will bear out that he was born on the feast (Appointed time) of tabernacles, when he returns to set up his Kingdom on earth he will require the first born from every nation to keep the feast of Tabernacles once a year, if they do not come and worship, then he (Machiach) will withhold rain in that land.

The scriptures seem to indicate that his return, like his first time to come, will be in the appointed time of Tabernacles, why else would he require the keeping of it for a thousand years?

 

[2knowhim]

Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Why do you continue to put these things into the future?

mish-kawn'
From H7931; a residence (including a shepherd’s hut, the lair of animals, figuratively the grave; also the Temple); specifically the Tabernacle (properly its wooden walls): - dwelleth, dwelling (place), habitation, tabernacle, tent.

skēnē
skay-nay'
Apparently akin to G4632 and G4639; a tent or cloth hut (literally or figuratively): - habitation, tabernacle.

Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.


Not future, but a reality through Christ our Lord.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Why do you continue to put these things into the future?

mish-kawn'
From H7931; a residence (including a shepherd’s hut, the lair of animals, figuratively the grave; also the Temple); specifically the Tabernacle (properly its wooden walls): - dwelleth, dwelling (place), habitation, tabernacle, tent.

skēnē
skay-nay'
Apparently akin to G4632 and G4639; a tent or cloth hut (literally or figuratively): - habitation, tabernacle.

Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.


Not future, but a reality through Christ our Lord.

God is dwelling in us, not with us at this point of time.

at a future date. God will dwell WITH us, as the men of the earth worship him as God. this is not happening now.

 

[Laodicea]

God is dwelling in us, not with us at this point of time.

at a future date. God will dwell WITH us, as the men of the earth worship him as God. this is not happening now.

Revelation 21:3
(3) And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

 

[2knowhim]

Revelation 21:3
(3) And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.


God is dwelling in us, not with us at this point of time.

at a future date. God will dwell WITH us, as the men of the earth worship him as God. this is not happening now.

What do you mean this is not happening now?

To dwell :
skay-no'-o
From G4636; to tent or encamp, that is, (figuratively) to occupy (as a mansion) or (specifically) to reside (as God did in the Tabernacle of old, a symbol fo protection and communion): - dwell.


Because of Christ and the Work of the Cross He is able to be Amid us.
Where in time past He couldn't because of sin.
We who were afar off have been made Nigh by the Blood.
I don't understand how anyone can't know that He is with us.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Revelation 21:3
(3) And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.


God is dwelling in us, not with us at this point of time.

at a future date. God will dwell WITH us, as the men of the earth worship him as God. this is not happening now.

What do you mean this is not happening now?

To dwell :
skay-no'-o
From G4636; to tent or encamp, that is, (figuratively) to occupy (as a mansion) or (specifically) to reside (as God did in the Tabernacle of old, a symbol fo protection and communion): - dwell.


Because of Christ and the Work of the Cross He is able to be Amid us.
Where in time past He couldn't because of sin.
We who were afar off have been made Nigh by the Blood.
I don't understand how anyone can't know that He is with us.

1. God dwelt with men in the OT at the temple,
2. God is not dwelling with men now. nor do men call him their God. He dwells in a believer but that is it.
3. Revelations says he will dwell with mankind. And he will be their God.

God is not in his holy city. He is not dwelling where mankind is worshiping him. He wants to be there God. But mankind has not yet called him there God. There will come a day though. When all this changes! And the promise of king Messiah sits on David's throne, and rules the world.

 

[jonathanbchristian]

I hate when people believe that Revelation already happened, because they do not really believe that it has to happen the way it was written in the Scripture. The things contained in Biblical prophecy for the end times have not happened yet. If it was finished we would be living in New Jerusalem.

 

[prophecyman]

Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Why do you continue to put these things into the future?

mish-kawn'
From H7931; a residence (including a shepherd’s hut, the lair of animals, figuratively the grave; also the Temple); specifically the Tabernacle (properly its wooden walls): - dwelleth, dwelling (place), habitation, tabernacle, tent.

skēnē
skay-nay'
Apparently akin to G4632 and G4639; a tent or cloth hut (literally or figuratively): - habitation, tabernacle.

Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.


Not future, but a reality through Christ our Lord

Break it down as you may, use those strong numbers for Greek difinitions, but the twisting and mutation of the holy scriptures is vile and contemptible.

So the New Jerusalem is not future? The new heaven and new Earth is not future? Your reference to Rev. 21:3 is making a direct reference to the new Jerusalem on the new Earth.

Are you a preterist?

 

[2knowhim]

Break it down as you may, use those strong numbers for Greek difinitions, but the twisting and mutation of the holy scriptures is vile and contemptible.

So the New Jerusalem is not future? The new heaven and new Earth is not future? Your reference to Rev. 21:3 is making a direct reference to the new Jerusalem on the new Earth.

Are you a preterist?

Ya know I don't get it....You criticize and ridule those who don't show scripture to back up
what they believe, and then when we do, you still riducule. I know no amount of scripture
could possibly make you believe that these things are SPIRITUAL, and thats why you still see
them future, because you just can't wrap your carnal mind around it but nevertheless, they are.

You have to bring it down to a natural, physical, literal level that you can make sense out of, and I am sorry but that is not how it works. Just because it's in the back of the bible does not mean it's future or the end.

I've watched you all try and figure out times and seasons, and put everything in order, and you know what, you'll still be doing it, throughout the ages, because you will not see these things in the flesh,
they are spiritually discerned.

I pray the Lord open your eyes to see what your missing out on here and Now.
And stop putting everthing off till the future, just because you can't see them with
your natural eyes.

Heb 11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
Heb 11:9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise

Heb 11:10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

Heb 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.
Heb 11:14 For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.
Heb 11:15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.
Heb 11:16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath (Past tense) prepared for them a city.

Heb 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:
Heb 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

IN CHRIST, we all dwell, tabernacle together

Heb 12:22 But ye are come (present tense) unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
Heb 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,


These things are happening in The Spirit In Him, IN the earth and In the Heavens NOW.

 

[2knowhim]

Behold, The Lamb which taketh away the Sin of The World.

It is a new earth, to a few. Those who see through the eyes of Faith.

 

[shroom2]

Behold, The Lamb which taketh away the Sin of The World.

It is a new earth, to a few. Those who see through the eyes of Faith.

There will literally be a new heaven and earth, and literally a new city will descend to that new earth. Those events are future.

You cannot spiritualize everything in Revelation. Well, you can, but you would be wrong.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Ya know I don't get it....

I don't get it either. How can people take a verse out of a passage and twist its meaning. and make it say something it never was intended to say.

lets look at the whole passage why don't we.

1 Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. 2 Then I, John,[a] saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. 4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”

now what can we take from this?

1. This earth has no sea. I will be on the ocean front this June as i am ever summer. so the earth still has a sea!
2. The old heaven and earth had already been destroyed (passed away) have not seen proof of this happening yet.
3. ALL men living on this earth will worship God, again as has been said before. this is not true today.
4. no more tears. i see people cry almost every day
5. no more pain. How many Christians can state they have no pain, ever? I know of none
6. No more death, My grandmother is getting ready to go to heaven as we speak. She will die any day now
7. No more pain. My knees are in pain. My back is in pain. I look forward to this day when I will have NO MORE PAIN AND SUFFERING.

How you or anyone else can say this is happening now is just beyond me!

You can post all the verses you want to try to support your claim. But when you take the whole passage in question in context. No verse will support your claim. because you belief does not fit the context of ALL that John said in this passage. He did not just write vs 3. he wrote the whole passage, and it must harmonize!

 

[Israel]

I don't get it either. How can people take a verse out of a passage and twist its meaning. and make it say something it never was intended to say.

lets look at the whole passage why don't we.

1 Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. 2 Then I, John,[a] saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. 4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”

now what can we take from this?

1. This earth has no sea. I will be on the ocean front this June as i am ever summer. so the earth still has a sea!
2. The old heaven and earth had already been destroyed (passed away) have not seen proof of this happening yet.
3. ALL men living on this earth will worship God, again as has been said before. this is not true today.
4. no more tears. i see people cry almost every day
5. no more pain. How many Christians can state they have no pain, ever? I know of none
6. No more death, My grandmother is getting ready to go to heaven as we speak. She will die any day now
7. No more pain. My knees are in pain. My back is in pain. I look forward to this day when I will have NO MORE PAIN AND SUFFERING.

How you or anyone else can say this is happening now is just beyond me!

You can post all the verses you want to try to support your claim. But when you take the whole passage in question in context. No verse will support your claim. because you belief does not fit the context of ALL that John said in this passage. He did not just write vs 3. he wrote the whole passage, and it must harmonize!

1 Corinthians 5:16-17

16Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

17Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

We walk by faith and not by sight.

 

[2knowhim]

Beautifully put Israel,

As always.

Blessings

 

[Forest]

God is dwelling in us, not with us at this point of time.

at a future date. God will dwell WITH us, as the men of the earth worship him as God. this is not happening now.

The church that Christ set up on earth when he was dewelling here is called by many names, the little flock, the bride, the remnant, the kingdom of God, the new Jerusalem, the church in which he presently reigns as husband and king. Mark 9:1, And he said unto them, verly I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power. The last day is the end of time for the earth and all that is in it. There will be no thousand year reign because Christ is presently reigning in his kingdom which is in the world but not of the world.

 

[Forest]

1. God dwelt with men in the OT at the temple,
2. God is not dwelling with men now. nor do men call him their God. He dwells in a believer but that is it.
3. Revelations says he will dwell with mankind. And he will be their God.

God is not in his holy city. He is not dwelling where mankind is worshiping him. He wants to be there God. But mankind has not yet called him there God. There will come a day though. When all this changes! And the promise of king Messiah sits on David's throne, and rules the world.

Matt 18:20, For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

 

[Forest]

I hate when people believe that Revelation already happened, because they do not really believe that it has to happen the way it was written in the Scripture. The things contained in Biblical prophecy for the end times have not happened yet. If it was finished we would be living in New Jerusalem.

We are living in the new Jerusalem which is his church also known as the kingdom of God, the bride, the remnant, the church of the first born, the little flock and more. Matt 16:28, there be some standing here which will not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his Kingdom.

 

[Forest]

There will literally be a new heaven and earth, and literally a new city will descend to that new earth. Those events are future.

You cannot spiritualize everything in Revelation. Well, you can, but you would be wrong.

May God open your eyes and ears Shroom.