[VIDEO] This guy knows what year the tribulation will start

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Two thumbs down ;)
 
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The tribulation has already started, it did back in biblical times...
 
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depends on ones definition of it

but the bible clearly states no one will know the hour the Lord comes, so that makes it unlikely anyone can say "tribulation starts that date"
 
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wwjd_kilden said:
depends on ones definition of it
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I'm referring to the great tribulation, as in Revelation. It is still future.

but the bible clearly states no one will know the hour the Lord comes, so that makes it unlikely anyone can say "tribulation starts that date"
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Personally i don't beleive in a so called Rapture exactly; Mainly because those who do, beleive that GOD is unfair and HE is NEVER unfair.

I beleive what the Bible says, and it clearly states that in the twinkling of an eye, that ALL shall be changed.

Now this is about Bodies Not Souls, the Bible also says that after this change of bodies, there will still be the dead amongst us, and this is about Souls Not Bodies.

Mortal = liable to die ( this time frame were in now; flesh)

Immortal = Eternal Life ( 1 Day of Immortal time = 1000 Mortal Days)

Other than that, and the fact that the word rapture isn't even in The Word of God, i think that this fellow is an earnest student of The Word.

I beleive that his points reguarding the moons and the information he backs it up with is excellent.

This is why though, i say that you cannot predict the year and only the season. Yes were in the season of the end times, but which set of moons will it happen on? as both 2014 & 2015 look equaly possible, to me anyways.

Forever in Christ :)
 
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The tribulation will not start until the "abomination of desolation" occurs. So it won't be any time soon. And no one can know the date.

He himself states the next "blood red moon" will occur in three years. Many things have to happen before the "great tribulation according to Daniel, and Jesus.

1. Some treaty confirmed by a leader of a revised roman empire.
2. After 3 1/2 years. this leader breaks the treaty by committing the "abomination of desolation" which Jesus references, in which Jesus claims their will be "great tribulation such as the world has never seen.
3. In order for this leader to commit an abomination of the most holy place. A temple must be rebuilt. All Isreal is doing all they can right now from rebuilding the temple. they even have the utensils, garments and sacrificial animals in place. They are being withheld from doing this though.

This guy does not even understand these things must take place. And considering the fact he says this "great tribulation" could start this year shows he does not know what he is talking about. He calls the tribulation 7 years. The tribulation is only 3.5 years. The first 3.5 years is a time of peace.
 
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WeStand said:
Personally i don't beleive in a so called Rapture exactly; Mainly because those who do, beleive that GOD is unfair and HE is NEVER unfair.
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I believe there will be a rapture, and I do not believe God is unfair.

I beleive what the Bible says, and it clearly states that in the twinkling of an eye, that ALL shall be changed.
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Paul is addressing Christian brethren. All Christians shall be changed. Dead Christians will be raised, and those living will become immortal.

Now this is about Bodies Not Souls, the Bible also says that after this change of bodies, there will still be the dead amongst us, and this is about Souls Not Bodies.
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After the rapture there will be no dead Christians.

Mortal = liable to die ( this time frame were in now; flesh)

Immortal = Eternal Life ( 1 Day of Immortal time = 1000 Mortal Days)
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Where do you get that? Immortal is immortal. We will live forever.

Other than that, and the fact that the word rapture isn't even in The Word of God,
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That's true. Rapture is a word given to the gathering together of the Christian church as described in 1 Cor 15 and 1 Thes 4

i think that this fellow is an earnest student of The Word.
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Maybe, but he's wrong.

I beleive that his points reguarding the moons and the information he backs it up with is excellent.

This is why though, i say that you cannot predict the year and only the season. Yes were in the season of the end times, but which set of moons will it happen on? as both 2014 & 2015 look equaly possible, to me anyways.

Forever in Christ :)
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"no man knows". It could happen today, 5 years from now, 50 years from now, 500 years from now. But it will happen.
 
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shroom2 said:
I believe there will be a rapture, and I do not believe God is unfair.


Paul is addressing Christian brethren. All Christians shall be changed. Dead Christians will be raised, and those living will become immortal.


After the rapture there will be no dead Christians.


Where do you get that? Immortal is immortal. We will live forever.


That's true. Rapture is a word given to the gathering together of the Christian church as described in 1 Cor 15 and 1 Thes 4


Maybe, but he's wrong.


"no man knows". It could happen today, 5 years from now, 50 years from now, 500 years from now. But it will happen.
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This is way too many questions for me to answer :D its ALL in Gods Word, The most ridiculas statement here though, Is to insinuate that GOD does not have A PERFECT PLAN?:D

Forever in Christ :)
 
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This is way too many questions for me to answer
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I did not ask a single question.

its ALL in Gods Word, The most ridiculas statement here though, Is to insinuate that GOD does not have A PERFECT PLAN?
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I did not insinuate such a thing.
 
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I don't think God is fair really, in our eyes that is:
The dispute between Cain and Abel started because God took more delight in one sacrifice than the other.
So, in mans eyes, that was unfair, which led to jealousy.
 
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wwjd_kilden said:
I don't think God is fair really, in our eyes that is:
The dispute between Cain and Abel started because God took more delight in one sacrifice than the other.
So, in mans eyes, that was unfair, which led to jealousy.
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And thus religion, and the fight to have the supreme religion, whether in the name of god or not. begun, and continues to this day.
 
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I did not ask a single question.


I did not insinuate such a thing.
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Sorry shroom, its just that to understand a subject such as a so-called rapture, well its a bit of study to wrap ones head around it and this would be like being a teacher, which i am not.

Christ foretold us ALL things, and to say it could happen anytime, well this is just a false statement.

It will go down exactly as written.

The Word of GOD could Not even be rightly divided time wise until a very significant event took place and that was The Fig-Tree becoming whole again.

This took place on May 10th 1948 when the Jews re-claimed the land of JUDEAH NOT ISRAEL, simultainuosly God dropped a 40 year blindness on His Word to ALL, thats Every single solitary person in the whole world.

Now the blindness is over, and IF one wants to know one can, Only you have to do it His way, Not some mans way.

Study of The Word lets one know that a generation can be 40/72 or 120 years. So at the very outside this can only last till 2068 else GOD would be a liar, as He said; THIS generation shall not pass till ALL that IS written IS ful-filled.

As pointed out by the student in the video, there are significant developments taking place around Jerusalum at this time. These are some of the signs written about in Mark 13 & Mattew 24.

He was also quite honest about the things he didn't know. My guess is the Dec.10th 2011 red moon is likely a warning for the 2014/2015 red moons, and yes one of these seem very likely because of the current events that are happening in conjunction with The Word.

Forever in Christ :)
 
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Sorry shroom, its just that to understand a subject such as a so-called rapture, well its a bit of study to wrap ones head around it and this would be like being a teacher, which i am not.

Christ foretold us ALL things, and to say it could happen anytime, well this is just a false statement.

It will go down exactly as written.

The Word of GOD could Not even be rightly divided time wise until a very significant event took place and that was The Fig-Tree becoming whole again.

This took place on May 10th 1948 when the Jews re-claimed the land of JUDEAH NOT ISRAEL, simultainuosly God dropped a 40 year blindness on His Word to ALL, thats Every single solitary person in the whole world.

Now the blindness is over, and IF one wants to know one can, Only you have to do it His way, Not some mans way.

Study of The Word lets one know that a generation can be 40/72 or 120 years. So at the very outside this can only last till 2068 else GOD would be a liar, as He said; THIS generation shall not pass till ALL that IS written IS ful-filled.

As pointed out by the student in the video, there are significant developments taking place around Jerusalum at this time. These are some of the signs written about in Mark 13 & Mattew 24.

He was also quite honest about the things he didn't know. My guess is the Dec.10th 2011 red moon is likely a warning for the 2014/2015 red moons, and yes one of these seem very likely because of the current events that are happening in conjunction with The Word.

Forever in Christ :)
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if I may add. there is one thing which we are not given a time, or even given signs as to when it will happen.

the taking up (rapture) to meet Christ in the sky.

Jesus said he does not know when it will be, Paul said this day will come as a thief in the night. meaning it will not be preceded by signs,

As for when the trib will occur. we know the time, just not the when.

1. It will happen 3 1/2 years after a future prince from Rome confirms a covenant.
2. It will happen immediately after the abomination of desolation, committed by this prince
3. it will be preceded by signs, Jesus calls them birth pangs. which I have no doubt we are seeing them today, and they are escalating just as prophesied.

The point is, Once it starts. we will know when things will happen. What we can't know is the starting point. not even the year. Only God knows. Trying to predict when it will happen is crazy, for whoever does is claiming to be like God. These birth pangs can go on for years. They might be the cause of this leader in Europe to take control ( say because of the collapse of the world financial market) And this guy seems like he has all the answers. so the world gives him power. We don't know. All we know is it will happen. We do not know when. We should, as every christian since Christ left. Be looking for his return however. because it can happen at any time. For all we know. The rapture (if pre-trib is correct) added to all the other calamities of the "birth pangs" could be the catastrophic world event that allows the leader to take power.
 
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Sorry shroom, its just that to understand a subject such as a so-called rapture, well its a bit of study to wrap ones head around it and this would be like being a teacher, which i am not.

Christ foretold us ALL things, and to say it could happen anytime, well this is just a false statement.
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No, it is not. There will be no signs for the rapture. It could happen at any time. We are simply told to wait for it. The signs in Matt 24 (and elsewhere) will precede Christ's returning at the end of the trib.

It will go down exactly as written.
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Indeed it will.

The Word of GOD could Not even be rightly divided time wise until a very significant event took place and that was The Fig-Tree becoming whole again.

This took place on May 10th 1948 when the Jews re-claimed the land of JUDEAH NOT ISRAEL, simultainuosly God dropped a 40 year blindness on His Word to ALL, thats Every single solitary person in the whole world.

Now the blindness is over, and IF one wants to know one can, Only you have to do it His way, Not some mans way.

Study of The Word lets one know that a generation can be 40/72 or 120 years. So at the very outside this can only last till 2068 else GOD would be a liar, as He said; THIS generation shall not pass till ALL that IS written IS ful-filled.
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All of that is pure conjecture on your part. 1948 may or may not be significant. We do not know. What we do know is that

Mat 24:36) But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

People trying to figure out what this means or what that means is pointless. Nobody knows.

As pointed out by the student in the video, there are significant developments taking place around Jerusalum at this time. These are some of the signs written about in Mark 13 & Mattew 24.
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No, they are not. The signs in Matt 25 and Mark 13 will be for believers living during the trib.

He was also quite honest about the things he didn't know. My guess is the Dec.10th 2011 red moon is likely a warning for the 2014/2015 red moons, and yes one of these seem very likely because of the current events that are happening in conjunction with The Word.
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Again, people trying to figure out what this means or what that means is pointless. Nobody knows. And anyway, those signs will take place after Christians are gone.
 
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