'Over the Phone'

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LitByLove

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trying to keep this clean...but i need a christian opinion. i know sex before marriage isnt a good idea (along with it being a sin) and anything that is lust or anything is also a sin....but do you put a level on how 'big' a sin is? do any of you believe that certain things are okay? like..."other things" that would mean not going all the way? or as my title implies ^ 'doing it over the phone'??? I have so much temptation and am struggling with myself trying to decide what exactly is okay/wrong. Everyone has got their own opinions, but do you feel you can go to a certain extent and that its fine?
 
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Helloimandrewyo

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I mean, if you think certian thoughts, its the same as doing them according to the bible.

If you would feel comfortable carrying out whatever actions you discuss with someone "over the phone", or chatting in a chat room, then i wouldn't worry about it. If you would have any reservations doing something, or acting a certian way with someone in person though then i wouldn't.
 
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Helloimandrewyo

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Seriously, who isn't consumed by temptation at our age. lol
 
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See_KING_Truth

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No sin is greater than another, therefore, there are no ''levels'' of sin. Each sin is equal to the next and all are deserving of death.
 
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See_KING_Truth

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Praise God for not sparing His Son, that our unpayable debt was made payable by the death and resurrection of Christ.
 
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amstrick

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See_KING_Truth said:
No sin is greater than another, therefore, there are no ''levels'' of sin. Each sin is equal to the next and all are deserving of death.
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Amen. I agree.

A sin is a sin is a sin. We are all born into sin but saved by our Lord. All we have to do is ask for forgiveness (and more self-control). :)
 
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Steve4U

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That's true.

& to encourage you all - - - sin has consequences.

That encourages?

Yes.

The more you save for your marriage, the better it will be.

God has the perfect person for you, at the right time -- Beyond your imagination. Just believe.

Best wishes to you all.

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Go for God's best.
 
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Ugly

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Lit .. the real question is do you want to take the risk that certain behaviors are acceptable? Or do you want to err on the side of caution, in your walk with God? When it comes to sexual matters, especially with singles, there is this 'how much can i get away with an still not sin' attitude. Sin is not always about actions, but about attitude and intent as well. Really your intent here is to satisfy your wants and fleshly desires and live on the edge of sinful actions. That attitude could potentially be construed as a sinful attitude. I'd suggest getting some accountability and working on getting your mind cleared of this stuff.
 
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juliet84

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LitByLove said:
trying to keep this clean...but i need a christian opinion. i know sex before marriage isnt a good idea (along with it being a sin) and anything that is lust or anything is also a sin....but do you put a level on how 'big' a sin is? do any of you believe that certain things are okay? like..."other things" that would mean not going all the way? or as my title implies ^ 'doing it over the phone'??? I have so much temptation and am struggling with myself trying to decide what exactly is okay/wrong. Everyone has got their own opinions, but do you feel you can go to a certain extent and that its fine?
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Scripture says:

"But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people". (Ephesians 5:3)

What do you think the word "hint" means? God knows your struggle. Scripture says that God will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear (1Corinthians 10:13)
 
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Brandon777

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Think about what the first words you said were. "trying to keep this clean" That should be your answer.
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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LitByLove said:
....but do you put a level on how 'big' a sin is?
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Nope. Do you put a level on how heinous a homicide is?

LitByLove said:
or as my title implies ^ 'doing it over the phone'???
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I've not heard of talking dirty over the phone as being a sin per se, but I think lust can be associated with phone sex.

Also... it's weird. lol. But to each their own! My advice: refrain. Nonetheless, phone sex in itself is not a sin, and safer than phone sex; minus the phone. :p
 
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Brandon777

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Siberian_Khatru said:
Nope. Do you put a level on how heinous a homicide is?



I've not heard of talking dirty over the phone as being a sin per se, but I think lust can be associated with phone sex.

Also... it's weird. lol. But to each their own! My advice: refrain. Nonetheless, phone sex in itself is not a sin, and safer than phone sex; minus the phone. :p
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How do you know it's not a sin? *with sharp tone* The Holy Bible doesn't say anything about phone sex, but it does talk about unholiness of the heart, purity of mind, and lust. How do you know sinning is as black and white as doing it or not doing it? I mean. There are levels of hell, so that seems to mean that there are levels of punishment, which seems to me that there are degrees of Judgement. Deuteronomy 32:22 "For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains." Romans 2:6 and Revelation 20:13 "And each shall be judged according to his deeds." Different degrees of judgement and punishment strongly implies different degrees of sin.
 
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Jullianna

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When it comes to something as powerful as sex/lust, one thing will QUICKLY lead to another. Before you know it, you're waaaay over the line.

If a thing bothers you enough to ask in a forum if it is a sin, it probably is a warning from your spirit, whether you can find scripture to support it or not.
 
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LitByLove said:
trying to keep this clean...but i need a christian opinion. i know sex before marriage isnt a good idea (along with it being a sin) and anything that is lust or anything is also a sin....but do you put a level on how 'big' a sin is? do any of you believe that certain things are okay? like..."other things" that would mean not going all the way? or as my title implies ^ 'doing it over the phone'??? I have so much temptation and am struggling with myself trying to decide what exactly is okay/wrong. Everyone has got their own opinions, but do you feel you can go to a certain extent and that its fine?
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Unless you're "doing it" with your husband over the phone then it's a sin. I think Jesus tried to correct this reasoning by showing us that sin is a heart matter. If you sin in your heart then you might as well have sinned in real life. I've done this myself to be very, quite unmistakeably and awkwardly honest. Being a guy in this society where every google search yields at least one naked woman - whether it be about car models or root beer ingredients - I can definitely sympathize with you. But we both should realize that unless we clean the inside of the cup then the outside will eventually become dirty when it spills. Can't just hope to clean the outside and keep it clean. Whatever's on the inside will eventually come out.
 
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If you read through Song of Solomon, it mentions several times '...do not arouse or awaken love until it so desires.' We should do our best to take this literally. Anything that sexually arouses us, whether it be an image, sound ('over the phone') or even a sexually provocative thought, is not good. Sex is a very powerful tool God has given us. Throughout history it has been the cause of many wars and destruction of civilizations.

The world loves to tell us that using other people for our desires will bring fulfillment. Don't let it wear you down, for nothing could be further from the truth! Remember, charm is deceptive and beauty is fleeting. A healthy Christian relationship is based on serving and sacrificing for one another.

All sin is the same in the eyes of the Lord. Nobody is perfect, if ever we are involved in thoughts or acts that are sinful, we should specifically confess them to God and beseech His merciful nature. It's not about "...going all the way", it's about not "going" at all until one is in a spiritually sanctified, legal union with the opposite gender.
 
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djness

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This is like when a mod says "no, you cannot cuss on cc"....and then you ask " ok, but can we spell $@$#, so that people get the idea?"....

seriously...do you ever need scripture for this?

a little common sense
 
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FrankensteinGirls

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If you don't believe in sex before marriage, you probably shouldn't believe in phone SEX before marriage.
 
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I suspect that having sex with a phone would be very uncomfortable. I advise against it.
 
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The-Prodical-Son

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LitByLove said:
trying to keep this clean...but i need a christian opinion. i know sex before marriage isnt a good idea (along with it being a sin) and anything that is lust or anything is also a sin....but do you put a level on how 'big' a sin is? do any of you believe that certain things are okay? like..."other things" that would mean not going all the way? or as my title implies ^ 'doing it over the phone'??? I have so much temptation and am struggling with myself trying to decide what exactly is okay/wrong. Everyone has got their own opinions, but do you feel you can go to a certain extent and that its fine?
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Right, interesting question and I've pondered this myself a couple of times. Sex is a beautiful thing as it shows oneness in marriage, just like Christ and the Church being one (Which many so it symbolises) So when you have sex outside of marriage it's making a mockery of Christ's love for the church which is in a sense blaspheming. Evidently that's not good.

By 'not going all the way' you're meaning oral sex or there and thereabouts things i would say this still comes under the guise of sex as it still promotes oneness because you are doing it together. (Mark Driscoll answers some questions about masturbation which cover this which is very good if you're struggling to understand me) And because it's coming under the guise of sex, it should only be done in marriage.

As to can you say if this sin is as bad as another. Jesus answers this himself. When asked by the Pharisees which is the greatest commandment:

(Matthew 22:37-39) 37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’

This is not to say that if we love God we can do what we want. It's to say if we love God truly, would we disobey him by having sex before marriage even though he doesn't want us to or would we accept his decision because we love him with heart and soul and would hate to displease or offend him.

God Bless
Sam
 
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