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LitByLove

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There's always the argument that its wrong (?) because of the temptation to engage in a sexual relationship, but all of that aside, is it really wrong to live with your boyfriend? say you DONT give in to temptation...so what then makes it wrong?

I also heard the argument that it gives people the wrong impression of what you and your partner are 'doing' and that as christians we should be avoiding any kind of impression of sin, or whatev..but i think that what other people say shouldnt matter because it all comes down to what you know is right and how you live your life, not according to how others percieve you to be.

that being said, has anyone here lived with their boyfriend? And i dont just mean once you become engaged, but before that as well.
 
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Its a pretty sensitive subject.
I personally don't think its a good idea, for both the reasons you mentioned. It really baiting temptation, even of you had two separate rooms and didn't sleep in the same bed. Its really asking for something to happen. I've never heard of a couple living together that didn't eventually succumb to the temptation to become physical before marriage.

On the front of giving off the wrong impression to people looking in its king of a cant win for loosing. As Christians we are supposed to ignore the judgements that the world passes onto us for our faith. So essentially as far as being persecuted for following Gods laws, ignore what people think. But we are also called to be a light to the world and those around us. So to have people who know you are Christian see you live in a situation that even appears to be unpure, is being a poor witness for Christ. I find 1 Corinthians 8 to be a really good passage speaking to this. It speaks about eating sacrifices but the principle is the same. if what you are doing causes someone who is not as strong in their faith to stumble, then its something you should be refraining from.

I also find James 4:17 helpful.
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17 If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn’t do it, it is sin for them.
Basically, you already know its not really a good idea to move in with a boy friend, for so many reasons. So despite the bible not specifically saying, thou shalt not live with your boyfriend, its still a sin because you know better. James 4:17 has become my life verse, sooooooo hard to live by, dont get me wrong, I'm not perfect, but it calls us to a holier way of living.
 
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah

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Im pretty sure these two lived together while they were dating. You dont wanna end up like this ...... do you?
 
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Timofree

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Yeah like you said, we should avoid the appearance of evil..........we were bought at a price, and it may not be easy, but God will bless you for obeying Him. We are called to make disciples, and anything that could cause others to fall should be avoided.

Think of the long term eternal scheme of things, when you stand before Christ's judgement seat you'll be glad you obeyed Him. Ask for His grace :)
 

jb

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The idea that a boyfriend and girlfriend could live together and not have sex seems completely ludicrous to me!
 
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Jullianna

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It's not impossible for an unmarried christian couple to live under the same roof to remain sexually pure, but that sure is a whoooooooooooole lotta pressure to put on yourselves.

Consider this: It's not only your lives that are affected. People don't just judge the two of you. They judge your family members as well. I have a friend whose daughter lived with a guy for about 2 years. They were christians and they swore to her that nothing was going on sexually, but my friend was very embarrassed when people would ask her about where her daughter was living. Granted, they were being nosey, but it was still hurtful and uncomfortable for my friend.
 

jb

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It's not impossible for an unmarried christian couple to live under the same roof to remain sexually pure, but that sure is a whoooooooooooole lotta pressure to put on yourselves.
Hypothetically, yes maybe...

But, could you do it, or do you know anybody who has done it?

For a boyfriend and girlfriend (who are Christians) to live together is totally impractable in all respects! ;)
 
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Joshua175

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I realize the "reasoning" here but honestly. It's like asking if you shouldn't dress in revealing clothing and using the reasoning that Eve was naked in the Garden, so that makes it right. Not only would dressing that way just be inviting a bad situation from a guy but it would also make you a bad witness for Christ. In this situation it's essentially the same thing. Not only will you be inviting a bad situation but it will not make you a great witness for Christ. Not that I'm applying under dressing to living with your boyfriend, it's only an analogy.

1 Corinthians 7:2-4 "Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife."

It's better for you to marry then to burn with passion. If something happens you will regret it, that is unless you get married.
 

shemaiah

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I agree with Joshua. There is more to life than right, wrong and reasoning. You must live a principled life, where you choose only to do that which is good for you and others for both now and the future. If you are in a college and decide you wont study just because it is not wrong you are merely destroying your future. Paul tells us continously to only do that which builds us up. God bless
 
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Timofree

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I could imagine living with a girlfriend and not having sex, but I reaaaaaaaaaaaally wouldn't want to.
As a non Christian I used to buy porn, for me it'd be like buying porn mags, but not reading them because that's ok :/

There's enough in life to battle against without giving the enemy a foothold, and putting yourself in that place!
 
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Jullianna

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Hypothetically, yes maybe...

But, could you do it, or do you know anybody who has done it?

For a boyfriend and girlfriend (who are Christians) to live together is totally impractable in all respects! ;)
I don't think I could do it, but I do know a young couple who did. I believe them because of the questions the young woman had for me before they married.

I think it's unwise though.
 
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Ugly

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Its actually in the bible to 'avoid the appearance of evil', so yes, it does matter. If it didn't matter, God wouldn't have put it in there. To dismiss it and say you shouldn't care what anyone thinks is to dismiss a part of the bible, just because it doesn't suit you and you'd rather do what you want.
Also, it ruins your witness. People, especially non-Christians, are going to assume you are sleeping together if you're living together, how then can you be a witness to them if they perceive you as living the same lifestyle as everyone else? Or if the assume you're living a lifestyle that you claim you're against. Your actions bear witness to your faith, and you can't just excuse that with a 'who cares what people think' attitude.
Bottom line is, it looks bad to other Christians and may cause others to stumble. What if another couple see's the example you're setting and follow suit? But they can't resist temptation and begin sleeping together? Is that the influence you want to be in others lives? Also, like i said, bottom line is its a bad witness. And lastly, we are to avoid temptation, how can you avoid a temptation when you choose to live with it, alone, night after night?
Bible tells us to use wisdom, there is no defense in using wisdom by choosing to live together.
 
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KiwiCA

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Do not cause anyone to stumble - 1 Corinthians 10:32

Would you drink alcohol in front of an alcoholic?
It doesn't matter if your strong enough to withstand temptation, you are actively encouraging a son of God (who was created inherently visual) to stumble by living with him. You'll be under the same roof as him, you don't think he'll get glimpes of you in your underwear or summer pjs? You don't think he'll secretly wish for an accidental meeting in the bathroom with you wearing just a towel? You will also be making it harder for him not to masturbate or worse use pornography. If he is in love with you, you will physically arouse him and that is not something he can just turn off like a lightswitch. When you're married you have the freedom to not torture the poor guy and actually serve his physical needs with enjoyment instead of trying to ignoring it with guilt.

Here is a trustworthy saying: Whoever aspires to be an overseer desires a noble task. Now the overseer is to be above reproach...
- 1 Timothy 3:1

I will make this statement with the assumption that your boyfriend is a Christian. If you intend to marry this guy do you know what will happen if you marry this guy, when he dies he will stand before God to give an account for his life as well as the lives he was responsible for - yours and your children. As a Christian he would have no right to be a deacon or an elder/pastor. Being above reproach means that there is nothing in his past or present that would even hint at the tarnishing the reputation of his respectability and sexual purity. Above reproach also means that a person doesn't even have to question his sexual history. By living with him, your're putting a big fat giant question mark over yours and his purity. Regardless of whether or not your having sex, neither of you are being above reproach.

For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife.. - Genesis 2:24

This verse does not have 'girfriend' at the end of it for a very good reason. Being united is more than just sex. Its building a household together, enjoying the honeymoon phase of sharing stuff and figuring out how to live with each other. Living together before marriage is insulting to others, its like watching someone win a science fair who neither entered in the first place nor put the effort in. You're giving each other the benefit of having a wife/husband without doing anything to earn the title. In other words, its cheating. Why would he buy the cow if he can get the milk for free? Living together is one of the incentives for getting married. And if after marriage you preached to others about premarital purity, you'd be called a complete hypocrite.

Lastly you say that what other people say shouldnt matter because it all comes down to what you know is right and how you live your life, not according to how others percieve you to be. Heres a rhetorical question, do we allow pedophiles to preach in the pulpit? Obviously no. If we followed your theory they'd be allowed to. The perception and opinions and discernment of those in authority over you, should be held in the highest regard by you. Why do you think those in authority will be judged more strictly by God?

Sadly I have to ask a question, who came up with the idea of living together? You or your boyfriend? If it was your boyfriend and hes the one trying to convince you, I would question his faith in Jesus. I wouldn't even go near his living room without figuring that out first.
 
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Tobby17

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The idea that a boyfriend and girlfriend could live together and not have sex seems completely ludicrous to me!
Not if the boyfriend is me.. :D
 
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dbj72

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The question I would ask myself is

If I wanted to live with him so soon, why dont I just marry him now?
 
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Couples who cohabitate before marriage are statistically more likely to divorce.
 
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Jullianna

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If compromise is acceptable in the beginning, I suppose it's only natural for them to think it acceptable at the end as well, huh?
 
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Relena7

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The idea that a boyfriend and girlfriend could live together and not have sex seems completely ludicrous to me!
It doesn't seem that weird to me. I honestly don't see what the big deal is. Couples that live together can possibly put off having sex. It's probably not even that uncommon. It's not like they are going to talk about their lack of activity. It's nobody's business but theirs.



Also, I don't have a lot of time for typing because I'm tired, but I'll also add real quick that something really irks me about the idea of arranging your lives based on what people "might" think and "might" do.
It shouldn't matter what other people think. I know it does. And I know a lot of people here think Christians should set a good example and not embarrass family or influence other people astray or whatever, but something still bothers me about it. :mad:

I mean, it's supposed to be your life, not theirs. Can't people think for themselves instead?? I know some people in my life who have made some mistakes long past that I am aware of. And I know some who still make them. So what?? I don't care.
I've never smoked, drank, done any drugs, stolen, or had unmarried sex. I think for myself, and just decided I didn't want to do those things.
 
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SantoSubito

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Honestly, I don't think it's a problem assuming you can control yourself. People saying that we shouldn't do it to avoid the appearance of evil I think are over applying that verse (it being the Christian equivalent to being PC). What people think might be going on doesn't matter, thats their problem not yours.

Now for my firsthand experience staying for a few days at the house of a cohabiting couple before they married. Their house was a model of what a Catholic home should be. Everyday they awoke at 6 AM (and as a result so did I) to pray Prime (the first of seven "hours" in the Liturgy of the Hours), ate breakfast prayed the second hour, prayed the rest of the hours at the right times throughout the day, watched some TV or read the Bible/Writings of Saints, prayed the Rosary before bed and did the same thing all over again the next day. That's in total about 2 hours each day they spent praying together, and I don't see temptation having any chance to enter in that schedule.
 

polarguyinak

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It's nobody's business but theirs.
... something really irks me about the idea of arranging your lives based on what people "might" think and "might" do.
...It shouldn't matter what other people think. I know it does.
...I mean, it's supposed to be your life, not theirs.


... People saying that we shouldn't do it to avoid the appearance of evil I think are over applying that verse (it being the Christian equivalent to being PC).
...What people think might be going on doesn't matter, thats their problem not yours.

The heart that wants to honor God eagerly seeks and pursues ways to do it, because your life is not yours, it's God's; if it has been given to God, then frankly, because God is love, your life belongs to those around you as a witness. If living your life a certain way boldy implies contrary to the witness you're trying to show, you should run from it! I believe this is inviting evil in. Reassuring everyone that you "can handle it" and that "it doesn't matter how others percieve it" not only speaks of the heart attitude towards Christ, it speaks of the attitude towards yourself and others.
What is at stake - comfort? convenience? vs. the efficacy of your testimony? someone else's testimony? Which is more important?

This time, read the verse from 1Cor with a little more in front of it... this is almost a perfect parallel, and explains that "avoiding the appearance of evil" is not at all over-applied in this instance.

1 Corinthians 8:9-13

New International Version (NIV)

9 Be careful, however, that the exercise of your rights does not become a stumbling block to the weak. 10 For if someone with a weak conscience sees you, with all your knowledge, eating in an idol’s temple, won’t that person be emboldened to eat what is sacrificed to idols? 11 So this weak brother or sister, for whom Christ died, is destroyed by your knowledge. 12 When you sin against them in this way and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. 13 Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother or sister to fall into sin, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause them to fall.


Your life is not your own. I think it was stated very well already in the following (and I would encourage everyone to go ahead and read it again in it's entirety). The heart after Christ doesn't desire sin management, it desires sin elimination. Why so willing give up ground on a matter of impatience?


Do not cause anyone to stumble - 1 Corinthians 10:32

Would you drink alcohol in front of an alcoholic?
It doesn't matter if your strong enough to withstand temptation, you are actively encouraging a son of God (who was created inherently visual) to stumble by living with him. You'll be under the same roof as him, you don't think he'll get glimpes of you in your underwear or summer pjs? You don't think he'll secretly wish for an accidental meeting in the bathroom with you wearing just a towel? You will also be making it harder for him not to masturbate or worse use pornography. If he is in love with you, you will physically arouse him and that is not something he can just turn off like a lightswitch. When you're married you have the freedom to not torture the poor guy and actually serve his physical needs with enjoyment instead of trying to ignoring it with guilt.

Here is a trustworthy saying: Whoever aspires to be an overseer desires a noble task. Now the overseer is to be above reproach...
- 1 Timothy 3:1

I will make this statement with the assumption that your boyfriend is a Christian. If you intend to marry this guy do you know what will happen if you marry this guy, when he dies he will stand before God to give an account for his life as well as the lives he was responsible for - yours and your children. As a Christian he would have no right to be a deacon or an elder/pastor. Being above reproach means that there is nothing in his past or present that would even hint at the tarnishing the reputation of his respectability and sexual purity. Above reproach also means that a person doesn't even have to question his sexual history. By living with him, your're putting a big fat giant question mark over yours and his purity. Regardless of whether or not your having sex, neither of you are being above reproach.

For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife.. - Genesis 2:24

This verse does not have 'girfriend' at the end of it for a very good reason. Being united is more than just sex. Its building a household together, enjoying the honeymoon phase of sharing stuff and figuring out how to live with each other. Living together before marriage is insulting to others, its like watching someone win a science fair who neither entered in the first place nor put the effort in. You're giving each other the benefit of having a wife/husband without doing anything to earn the title. In other words, its cheating. Why would he buy the cow if he can get the milk for free? Living together is one of the incentives for getting married. And if after marriage you preached to others about premarital purity, you'd be called a complete hypocrite.

Lastly you say that what other people say shouldnt matter because it all comes down to what you know is right and how you live your life, not according to how others percieve you to be. Heres a rhetorical question, do we allow pedophiles to preach in the pulpit? Obviously no. If we followed your theory they'd be allowed to. The perception and opinions and discernment of those in authority over you, should be held in the highest regard by you. Why do you think those in authority will be judged more strictly by God?

Sadly I have to ask a question, who came up with the idea of living together? You or your boyfriend? If it was your boyfriend and hes the one trying to convince you, I would question his faith in Jesus. I wouldn't even go near his living room without figuring that out first.
This is my opinion, but it is informed by scripture which pleads us to consider these things for Love's sake: All relationships and marriages on earth will end eventually, because they are temporal models of the real marriage, which was laid upon a carefully laid foundation of sacrifice, patience, and determination by the one who Loves. His courtship is everything in this life. Marriage, and a courtship filled with deliberate integrity, therfore, is one of the most powerful testimonies a person can have. Do not weigh the imagery of (or the departure from) it so lightly. It is meant to be sanctified, as is your heart.

I don't always live accordingly, but there is nothing in my life more important that conveying the integrity of God's Love, and if people are telling me, "hey - this isn't good... this isn't a good picture of what's right", then thank God, I'm going to use that to step into the right.

God bless, and I hope you submit this to Christ in every way.