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SantoSubito

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Hmmm... Who do I call when theres a demon? I know! GhostBust... wait thats not right. Exorcist man the demon expelling Priest. Yeah thats right. Call a Priest.
 
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Deadtosin

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SantoSubito said:
Hmmm... Who do I call when theres a demon? I know! GhostBust... wait thats not right. Exorcist man the demon expelling Priest. Yeah thats right. Call a Priest.
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"it stands to reason that one cannot understand let alone withstand an attack from an enemy one doesn't believe exists."
 
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SantoSubito

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Deadtosin said:
"it stands to reason that one cannot understand let alone withstand an attack from an enemy one doesn't believe exists."
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Never said I don't believe in demons. I was actually being partially comical. But anyway I'd rather let a man that has been trained to deal with demons deal with them.
 
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paul241159

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why you talk rubbish
 
Deadtosin

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Never said I don't believe in demons. I was actually being partially comical. But anyway I'd rather let a man that has been trained to deal with demons deal with them.
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with demons numbering like the sands of the ocean constantly stalking us, we have no choice but to deal with them daily. I am sorry that I don't delight in the comical aspect of 97.5 percent of people going to hell, largely due to the fact that demons attack our flesh with a certain zeal. By participating in "earthly humor " and other things of this world I find that our guard comes down and it becomes far easier for a demon to make a sin look harmless and even beautiful. A christian can expel a demon from a human if they have "no doubt" in what they are doing, but that will not stop the demon or demons from returning. Only the person abiding in the will of God can dwell in the protection of the Holy Spirit. Good luck and God bless.
 
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The Bible tells us what happens after we die
Ecclesiastes 9:5-6
(5) For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
(6) Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.

So should I believe the Bible or someone's story?

 
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Laodicea said:
The Bible tells us what happens after we die
Ecclesiastes 9:5-6
(5) For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
(6) Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.

So should I believe the Bible or someone's story?
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Though I do believe that the man who wrote this story could have been inspired by God, some of the details of it seemed way too far-fetched to be so. Like the part where he says that he was at the "throne of God". Why couldn't he have said that he was at the "throne of Jesus"? No man has seen God, God is beyond all human conception and reason.

Another thing was the fact about how he spoke so openly to God. This was the major point which was so unbelievable, how arrogant he was when he first faced God talking about how much he though he pleased God. The humble, devout Christian NEVER thinks this way EVER, even if he were to endure death for Christ's sake. Also, if he really was in at the throne of God he would feel immense abasement and humility.
Then on top of that, he says that God told him that most people "think they're saved but they're not"... And then through all this i'm thinking, "What profit does it make for you to dwell ( and make us dwell) on other people's sins and how other people are going to hell?" It profits us absolutely NOTHING!!! God does not want us to focus on how the "97.5%" of people are going to hell, HE will take care of those 97.5% who are "going to hell". It makes no profit to us to dwell on others evil.

Work out YOUR OWN SALVATION with fear and trembling (phillipians)


I think this story was either made up in order for this book to be made, or it was a delusion caused by Satan
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Luk 18:9 He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt:
Luk 18:10 "Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.
Luk 18:11 The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector.
Luk 18:12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.'
Luk 18:13 But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, 'God, be merciful to me, a sinner!'
Luk 18:14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted."
 
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StMichaelTheArchangel said:
Though I do believe that the man who wrote this story could have been inspired by God, some of the details of it seemed way too far-fetched to be so.
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Like the part where he says that he was at the "throne of God". Why couldn't he have said that he was at the "throne of Jesus"? No man has seen God, God is beyond all human conception and reason.

Another thing was the fact about how he spoke so openly to God. This was the major point which was so unbelievable, how arrogant he was when he first faced God talking about how much he though he pleased God. The humble, devout Christian NEVER thinks this way EVER, even if he were to endure death for Christ's sake. Also, if he really was in at the throne of God he would feel immense abasement and humility.
Then on top of that, he says that God told him that most people "think they're saved but they're not"... And then through all this i'm thinking, "What profit does it make for you to dwell ( and make us dwell) on other people's sins and how other people are going to hell?" It profits us absolutely NOTHING!!! God does not want us to focus on how the "97.5%" of people are going to hell, HE will take care of those 97.5% who are "going to hell". It makes no profit to us to dwell on others evil.

Work out YOUR OWN SALVATION with fear and trembling (phillipians)


I think this story was either made up in order for this book to be made, or it was a delusion caused by Satan
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Luk 18:9 He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt:
Luk 18:10 "Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.
Luk 18:11 The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector.
Luk 18:12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.'
Luk 18:13 But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, 'God, be merciful to me, a sinner!'
Luk 18:14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted."
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They are good points that you have brought up
 
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StMichaelTheArchangel

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Laodicea said:


They are good points that you have brought up
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I mean, I totally believed in the story until those points. The things he said about the armies of demons is very likely true, but the last part seemed like he was just trying to find material for his book. No offence to the OP, I am just speaking what I think, I could be wrong.

Maybe God was trying to tell him something and it really was a revelation from God, but there are points of it which seem unbelievable... I do believe though in what he said about Christians who think they are saved but are not. The whole "Placebo" premise is true.


Don't take my word for it.
 
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Deadtosin

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Laodicea said:
The Bible tells us what happens after we die
Ecclesiastes 9:5-6
(5) For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
(6) Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.

So should I believe the Bible or someone's story?
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you should believe the bible.. read the rest of it.
 
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StMichaelTheArchangel

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Deadtosin said:
you should believe the bible.. read the rest of it.
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So this story of this man happened when he allegedly "died" and had an OBE (Outer Body Expericene)?

I looked for more info on him on the Net but found nothing.
 
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StMichaelTheArchangel

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Laodicea said:
I have read the rest of it, that is why I do not believe that story.
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There are many other things outside of the Bible which we can profit greatly from. One such writing is the "Sayings of the Desert Fathers" and the writings of Christians who lived before us.

Read these sayings and then try to tell me that your soul did not profit from them:

One Hundred
 
Deadtosin

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StMichaelTheArchangel said:
So this story of this man happened when he allegedly "died" and had an OBE (Outer Body Expericene)?

I looked for more info on him on the Net but found nothing.
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yes thats the claim. I personally believe it because of certain things he said as he wrote this. If you want to message me privately I'll tell you what I mean, but I won't place those observations publicly for others to devise ways to tear it apart.. it is written "do not cast pearls before swine." not that I consider any members of CC swine.. but I do believe there are those among us who would decimate any truth that conflicts with their opinion.
 
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StMichaelTheArchangel

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yes thats the claim. I personally believe it because of certain things he said as he wrote this. If you want to message me privately I'll tell you what I mean, but I won't place those observations publicly for others to devise ways to tear it apart.. it is written "do not cast pearls before swine." not that I consider any members of CC swine.. but I do believe there are those among us who would decimate any truth that conflicts with their opinion.
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I totally agree with you here, that is why I trust in the Saints of my Church and not in myself. There are so many people who are self approved and self appointed teachers with their own opinions. "For not he that commendeth himself is approved, but whom the Lord commendeth." 2Co_10:18

The Lord commends his people who are "Saints", these are those who are "approved" (that would include teachers) by His Church. When His Church crowns someone a "Saint", it means that this person has been given special preference in the Church of God (Ground and Pillar of the Truth - 1 Tim 3:15). Such people are teachers, pastors, shepherds, bishops, martyrs, confessors (those who confess Christ like martyrs but do not die), and are crowned as Saints because of their special sanctity, wisdom, and their holy life.

I am not a Saints but hope to be so like all Christians should hope for. Only a Saint can be a teacher.
 
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Demons attack people everyday. If we try to silence the lambs as they try to give warning or help to others we hurt the body of Christ. If you want to call them out as false give PROOF not on what you believe to be true but what you can show through scripture. If you can not show it then you can not claim it to be false. There are stories in the bible of people in the throne room with GOD. There are Christians who live in pain and shame because they feel they can not come forward with what is going on with them. You are not to shame another Christain you are to reach out in love even if you don't understand what they are going through. Do you know that many people who are dealing with a demon commit suicide because they feel hopeless and alone. The fight is life and death and for anyone to down play what the evilone does to the weak in faith is harmful. It can cause that little one to lose their faith and take their life. Be very careful. You must expose lies but not to the harm of the truth. This will be my third visit to you. "Every matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses 2 cor 13:1
 
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