Worshipping the Bible is Idolatry!
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I won't go through (Jer 17:9, Is 1:5, Ps 51:5, 58:3 and Rom 3) but I will ask you to consider what Paul meant by the term sin (singular) in (Rom 7). How was it that he was able to come to this conclusion in (v. 17,20)...
17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Where did this sin come from that dwelleth in him that was causing all these problems in his life. He even deals with the issue with the will and states in (v.18)...
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but [how] to perform that which is good I find not.
...and later calls it the law of sin and death in his members that he needs to be delivered from in (v.23-25)...
23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
From these scriptures we see Paul's understanding that sin was a law that dwelt within his members and the cause of all the warring going on within him. Even though his will was present with him, he needed to be delivered from this law of sin and death (Rom 7:24, 8:2). For us to say that we are not conceived and born in sin through the sin of Adam is to deny that all have sinned and their is none that is righteous and doeth good, NO NOT ONE (Rom 10:3-12)! I think that we can safely conclude and include Mary in the ALL have sinned without contradicting the scriptures or indicting Mary to be something she is not. Mary nor John the baptist were ever made exceptions to this law of sin that resides in the members of our physical body.
17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Where did this sin come from that dwelleth in him that was causing all these problems in his life. He even deals with the issue with the will and states in (v.18)...
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but [how] to perform that which is good I find not.
...and later calls it the law of sin and death in his members that he needs to be delivered from in (v.23-25)...
23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
From these scriptures we see Paul's understanding that sin was a law that dwelt within his members and the cause of all the warring going on within him. Even though his will was present with him, he needed to be delivered from this law of sin and death (Rom 7:24, 8:2). For us to say that we are not conceived and born in sin through the sin of Adam is to deny that all have sinned and their is none that is righteous and doeth good, NO NOT ONE (Rom 10:3-12)! I think that we can safely conclude and include Mary in the ALL have sinned without contradicting the scriptures or indicting Mary to be something she is not. Mary nor John the baptist were ever made exceptions to this law of sin that resides in the members of our physical body.
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Do what? Did God offer salvation to the angels who did fall in sin? Why did God offer it to mankind and not them? These angels have a perspective of God mankind has never had. They know and see things we cna not even comprehend. That is why God did not even try to save them. they are not in the same boat as we are. You think God did not love them as much as he loved us? You would be wrong!
And? The bible states that ALL HAVE SINNED, and have "FALLEN SHORT" (literally in the Greek missed the mark) What is the mark? the Law. SO when God says in his word, all have "Active verb" Sinned. It means that every man woman and child (including Mary) have committed actual sin and have missed the way to be saved by the law. If any man woman or child ever lived a sinless life. they would not need a savior. they would make it to heaven on their own. Because they "hit the mark" required by the law to make it on their own accord, and God could not punish them.
Scripture also states there are NON RIGHTEOUS, no not one. So if there is anyone (including Mary) who lived a righteous life free of sin, that passage is also in error. Because someone was righteous. Even if one. So to Say Mary never committed one temporal, overt or actual sin in her lifetime, is to say scripture is in error.
I never claimed it did, this is just another spoon fed argument your church tells you we who believe otherwise believe, thus why you argue with it.
If mary did not sin once, she did not miss the mark but made it. Ancestrial sin aside. mary would have performed the only work one could do to save herself. Mary also would have been righteous. Thus she would have been the one who was righteous, who knew "experienced" no sin. Thus yo9ur argument is invalid. because it makes God and scripture a lie.
Christ was called the "son of God" before mary even gave birth to him.
Daniel 3:25
“Look!” he answered, “I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire; and they are not hurt, and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.”
How did they know the term "son of God" if he had not even been born yet? Who do you think this was?
Calling Mary sinless is against scripture. Calling her the mother of God or queen of heaven is blatant paganism. For only pagans have a mother of God and queen of heaven, because their Gods are born, not eternal.
What does Jesus Say when people try to exalt Mary?
Luke 11:27-28
27And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. 28But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.
Seems you may be putting the wrong emphasis on Mary and not enough emphasis on the Bible. Perhaps Gods word should be exalted and not Mary.
Luke 11:27-28
27And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. 28But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.
Seems you may be putting the wrong emphasis on Mary and not enough emphasis on the Bible. Perhaps Gods word should be exalted and not Mary.
