Mic hold

[ForeverForgiven]

my suggestion is this.... when a person first comes into a room, have a mic hold before that person can speak on mic. People come into the rooms all the time having NO idea what is being talked about and jump on the mic and take over the room. this is rude and sometimes disturbing

 

[Ugly]

Good idea. Could also prevent trolls being able to get on mic and making them have to type and be easier to report. Might even discourage trolls who expect to get on mic right away when they find they have to wait.

 

[lil_christian]

That just sounds a bit too controlling. You already have to wait a couple seconds before you can get on mic again, and that already is an inconvenience. More and more often I accidentally let go of the mic while I'm still talking, and then someone seizes the opportunity to get the mic, and instead of waiting five seconds for people to hear what I have to say, I have to wait five MINUTES or until it's not relevant anymore. I know that it's beneficial for others who have to wait to get the mic because the person that's on the mic likes to click it on and off so they can stay on longer. But it's NOT beneficial to those who obey the rules. I dunno...I'm not trying to be mean in any way shape or form....I love this site, and I love the people on it. But how many more restrictions are we going to put on ourselves and each other? It doesn't make sense to me...=\ to be honest it sounds like the government trying to put more restrictions on us with stuff like SOPA...only the people are the ones suggesting it happens.

I think one thing that might help prevent trolls and people that aren't real is to put stuff like, when people first register on certain sites, there's a box full of nonsense stuff and you have to type out what it says. I'm not sure what it's called...but maybe that'd help with some of the spam and even some trolls.

Another thing someone could do is, if you don't appreciate them derailing the subject, just politely let them that the room would like to stay on this certain subject or give them a brief synopsis on what everyone in the room is talking about. There ARE other options than putting more restrictions. Also if there are trolls, don't feed 'em, ignore 'em, and then when a mod comes in, tell them what's going on and then let them take care of it.

Once again, I'm not trying to be mean. I'm just trying to put others into perspective and really see it from another person's point of view.

 

[biggiestomp]

I agree with the Mic hold as a person first enters a room. it can be disturbing when people first enters a room and jumps on the mic, while there being a study or topic going on.

we shouldn't have to police the room or set such rules. but our God is a God of order and it don't seem to be understood by some.

We all could be selfish at times and learning to respect the rules of the room and of others is a process. I guess it's a slow learning process, that being the reason there being a five second wait after mic release.

 

[djness]

That just sounds a bit too controlling. You already have to wait a couple seconds before you can get on mic again, and that already is an inconvenience. More and more often I accidentally let go of the mic while I'm still talking, and then someone seizes the opportunity to get the mic, and instead of waiting five seconds for people to hear what I have to say, I have to wait five MINUTES or until it's not relevant anymore. I know that it's beneficial for others who have to wait to get the mic because the person that's on the mic likes to click it on and off so they can stay on longer. But it's NOT beneficial to those who obey the rules. I dunno...I'm not trying to be mean in any way shape or form....I love this site, and I love the people on it. But how many more restrictions are we going to put on ourselves and each other? It doesn't make sense to me...=\ to be honest it sounds like the government trying to put more restrictions on us with stuff like SOPA...only the people are the ones suggesting it happens.

I think one thing that might help prevent trolls and people that aren't real is to put stuff like, when people first register on certain sites, there's a box full of nonsense stuff and you have to type out what it says. I'm not sure what it's called...but maybe that'd help with some of the spam and even some trolls.

Another thing someone could do is, if you don't appreciate them derailing the subject, just politely let them that the room would like to stay on this certain subject or give them a brief synopsis on what everyone in the room is talking about. There ARE other options than putting more restrictions. Also if there are trolls, don't feed 'em, ignore 'em, and then when a mod comes in, tell them what's going on and then let them take care of it.

Once again, I'm not trying to be mean. I'm just trying to put others into perspective and really see it from another person's point of view.

The reason robop had to put in the 5 seconds is because some people apparently never learned to share. They get on their soapbox and mow down the room with their opinion. The sad part is that someething like that actually had to be put itn because some users cannot just behave they have to be led by the hand into being internet friendly.

Like the old saying a few bad eggs,,,,

 

[Ugly]

That just sounds a bit too controlling. You already have to wait a couple seconds before you can get on mic again, and that already is an inconvenience. More and more often I accidentally let go of the mic while I'm still talking, and then someone seizes the opportunity to get the mic, and instead of waiting five seconds for people to hear what I have to say, I have to wait five MINUTES or until it's not relevant anymore. I know that it's beneficial for others who have to wait to get the mic because the person that's on the mic likes to click it on and off so they can stay on longer. But it's NOT beneficial to those who obey the rules. I dunno...I'm not trying to be mean in any way shape or form....I love this site, and I love the people on it. But how many more restrictions are we going to put on ourselves and each other? It doesn't make sense to me...=\ to be honest it sounds like the government trying to put more restrictions on us with stuff like SOPA...only the people are the ones suggesting it happens.

I think one thing that might help prevent trolls and people that aren't real is to put stuff like, when people first register on certain sites, there's a box full of nonsense stuff and you have to type out what it says. I'm not sure what it's called...but maybe that'd help with some of the spam and even some trolls.

Another thing someone could do is, if you don't appreciate them derailing the subject, just politely let them that the room would like to stay on this certain subject or give them a brief synopsis on what everyone in the room is talking about. There ARE other options than putting more restrictions. Also if there are trolls, don't feed 'em, ignore 'em, and then when a mod comes in, tell them what's going on and then let them take care of it.

Once again, I'm not trying to be mean. I'm just trying to put others into perspective and really see it from another person's point of view.

Restrictions are put in place because people can't behave properly. When people learn to act right, there are less need for rules and restrictions. People don't like the whistle, or the 5 second wait, but those are in place because people were not handling their use of the mic properly to begin with. If people used more sense neither of those would need to be in effect.

Also, you're talking about CAPTCHA, and no, that won't prevent trolls at all. Those are mostly effective against people using bots to sign in en masse to a site. Forcing a person to have to be there to enter the information each time. So all it really does is verify you're human. This site doesn't seem to have any problem with bots, and therefore using CAPTCHA would serve no purpose.

Just because something isn't beneficial to people who obey doesn't mean a rule shouldn't be put into effect. Control needs to be maintained, and as is common all throughout many facets of life, the people that suffer most are the innocent. That is just the way things are. Sometimes you just have to get over it and understand that though it may be an inconvenience at times, its actually there for the GOOD of everyone. Rules are not bad things, and life is not about your convenience.

 

[biggiestomp]

That just sounds a bit too controlling. You already have to wait a couple seconds before you can get on mic again, and that already is an inconvenience. More and more often I accidentally let go of the mic while I'm still talking, and then someone seizes the opportunity to get the mic, and instead of waiting five seconds for people to hear what I have to say, I have to wait five MINUTES or until it's not relevant anymore.

Well, Order is needed, not control. We wouldn't need the five second delay if people didn't have this (what i have to say) attitude. It's not about us. I know when others are on the mic and i cant get on, I find myself getting upset. Then i have to be reminded, it is not about me! And the five minute delay might remind others, it's not about them also.

But it's NOT beneficial to those who obey the rules. I dunno...

I obey the rules and i have no problem with any of the rules!

Another thing someone could do is, if you don't appreciate them derailing the subject, just politely let them that the room would like to stay on this certain subject or give them a brief synopsis on what everyone in the room is talking about.

This has been done. People have been asked in love and politely and yet, they still would interrupt, each time they enter the room like they never been told.


We respect the church rules and have order, what makes CC any different?

 

[lil_christian]

The church is different than a chat. The church isn't a building...WE the Christians are the church. This is just a chat site. Your argument is invalid.

 

[lil_christian]

Well, Order is needed, not control. We wouldn't need the five second delay if people didn't have this (what i have to say) attitude. It's not about us. I know when others are on the mic and i cant get on, I find myself getting upset. Then i have to be reminded, it is not about me! And the five minute delay might remind others, it's not about them also.

It's not there to remind people it's not about them. And if someone has something really important to say, it can get frustrating. And besides, there ARE other rooms you could put the conversation in. Like Random. Poor Random room...it's quite similar to the Lounge purpose-wise.



I don't per se, have a problem with the rules. But it can get annoying to accidentally let go. And then on that rare occasion, someone will hold the mic for you until the five seconds are up. but when the chat gets crazy, that doesn't happen. The mic hold is just pointless. People are going to do whatever as soon as those five minutes are up. People should know that.

This has been done. People have been asked in love and politely and yet, they still would interrupt, each time they enter the room like they never been told.

You've done your job...just let them be. Be tolerant.

We respect the church rules and have order, what makes CC any different?

As I said earlier, CC is a chat site, not a church.

 

[lil_christian]

Restrictions are put in place because people can't behave properly. When people learn to act right, there are less need for rules and restrictions. People don't like the whistle, or the 5 second wait, but those are in place because people were not handling their use of the mic properly to begin with. If people used more sense neither of those would need to be in effect.

I'm glad certain things have been put up like the whistle. Because people used to hold the mic for more than ten minutes.

Also, you're talking about CAPTCHA, and no, that won't prevent trolls at all. Those are mostly effective against people using bots to sign in en masse to a site. Forcing a person to have to be there to enter the information each time. So all it really does is verify you're human. This site doesn't seem to have any problem with bots, and therefore using CAPTCHA would serve no purpose.

Yeah it is CAPTCHA. I just didn't know if that would help or not.

Just because something isn't beneficial to people who obey doesn't mean a rule shouldn't be put into effect. Control needs to be maintained, and as is common all throughout many facets of life, the people that suffer most are the innocent. That is just the way things are. Sometimes you just have to get over it and understand that though it may be an inconvenience at times, its actually there for the GOOD of everyone. Rules are not bad things, and life is not about your convenience.

I never even said it was. I just said it was inconvenient. I did not say that everything has to be convenient to me. And I'll probably eventually get used to the five-second rule. but a five MINUTE mic hold?? It's pointless. People will talk about what they want to talk about, when they want to talk about it. that just delays the inevitable.

 

[NodMyHeadLikeYeah]

Agree with lil christian. Sounds to controlling.

In the bible study room that might not be a bad idea, because there trying to have serious conversations about God and or doing an actual bible study. You dont want some random person coming in the room getting on the mic and making jokes or being disrespectful.

foreverforgiven, not to long ago i was in the lounge and some guys were having a conversation about something, you jump on the mic and tell them that you dont want to talk about that and switch the subject to something else. Talk about taking over the room.

The people in the lounge i rarely even hear talk about anything serious anyways. It seems like a bunch of people flirting on the mic.

 

[biggiestomp]

I'm not here to debate my opinion over this mic holding deal. I do, however, find it interesting how a person would say, It's not there to remind people it's not about them. And if someone has something really important to say, it can get frustrating. Yes, i'm sure these things can be frustrating to all of us. But remember, it's not about us!

It being a suggestions to an on going issue where people can't seem to respect others or the order of the chat site. True people will continue to do whatever, once their five seconds are up. However, we don't have to hear em for a full ten minutes (or however long the mic time is allowed in each room...lol), in getting their opinion across. Again, it's not about us or our opinions.

Being this is a suggestion forum. Where we could come and address our opinion, rather it being in any of the chat rooms. I'm sure someone might just bring it to the rooms.....lol

But i do agree, it's a chat site, why should we set all these rules? People come here to have fun and fellowship. Also the bible says, "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." (Matthew 18:20) The church body! I believe that might include a Christian Chat Site! To just see it as a Chat Site might explain why we have so much disrespect. Cause i'm thinking as Christians, we would know better or at least be trying.

God alone is every where present, and these words of Matthew 18:20, refer to his omnipresence! So the point of stating how we respect the church and it's rules, why is it so hard to respect a Christian Chat Site and it's rules where Christians come together gathered in the name of Jesus. So i hope that's why we come together?

 

[ForeverForgiven]

Agree with lil christian. Sounds to controlling.

In the bible study room that might not be a bad idea, because there trying to have serious conversations about God and or doing an actual bible study. You dont want some random person coming in the room getting on the mic and making jokes or being disrespectful.

foreverforgiven, not to long ago i was in the lounge and some guys were having a conversation about something, you jump on the mic and tell them that you dont want to talk about that and switch the subject to something else. Talk about taking over the room.

The people in the lounge i rarely even hear talk about anything serious anyways. It seems like a bunch of people flirting on the mic.

if I asked for the topic to be changed there was a good reason for it! Weather you saw it or not, that I can assure you!

 

[ForeverForgiven]

I think most of you have missed the point... My suggestion is for like a 90 second mic hold when a person enters a room, so that the new chatter to the room can become aware of the convo going on. So that the new person can stay on topic. The new person to the room would be able to type, but before jumping on the mic and taking over the room and the convo going on there.

 

[Ugly]

but a five MINUTE mic hold?? It's pointless. People will talk about what they want to talk about, when they want to talk about it. that just delays the inevitable.

Well, no one suggested a five minute hold. That's a statement you said. There is no five minute hold, so why you're arguing against it is beyond me.

''More and more often I accidentally let go of the mic while I'm still talking, and then someone seizes the opportunity to get the mic, and instead of waiting five seconds for people to hear what I have to say, I have to wait five MINUTES or until it's not relevant anymore'' to quote you exactly. So why you're saying a 'five minute hold' is pointless when you're the one who brought it up, is beyond me. And you're not even arguing it in the same context which you first said it.

 

[biggiestomp]

Well, no one suggested a five minute hold. That's a statement you said. There is no five minute hold, so why you're arguing against it is beyond me.

You are so right, Ugly! Through all this debating and such, the one person who's debating the five minute hold, is the only person who even brought up the five minute hold. That's why we need to apply the mic hold rule. all this long winded debating, i forgot the point of this post....lol

 

[lil_christian]

I thought I read something about the hold being five minutes. But then again, I misread things. Sorry for the misunderstanding >.<

 

[lil_christian]

Well, no one suggested a five minute hold. That's a statement you said. There is no five minute hold, so why you're arguing against it is beyond me.

''More and more often I accidentally let go of the mic while I'm still talking, and then someone seizes the opportunity to get the mic, and instead of waiting five seconds for people to hear what I have to say, I have to wait five MINUTES or until it's not relevant anymore'' to quote you exactly. So why you're saying a 'five minute hold' is pointless when you're the one who brought it up, is beyond me. And you're not even arguing it in the same context which you first said it.

As I said earlier...I misread something.

 

[lil_christian]

You are so right, Ugly! Through all this debating and such, the one person who's debating the five minute hold, is the only person who even brought up the five minute hold. That's why we need to apply the mic hold rule. all this long winded debating, i forgot the point of this post....lol

Yeesh...I misread, I'm sorry...do you have to make THAT big of a deal out of it?

 

[lil_christian]

I think most of you have missed the point... My suggestion is for like a 90 second mic hold when a person enters a room, so that the new chatter to the room can become aware of the convo going on. So that the new person can stay on topic. The new person to the room would be able to type, but before jumping on the mic and taking over the room and the convo going on there.

Well some people usually have to wait a minute regardless...and as I said, people are going to do what they please anyways...so it's slightly pointless.