I had a very graphic dream last night; looking for other POV's

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Annointed1980

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Lately (past two years) I have been growing much more intimate with God. I have had many spiritual encounters but none like this (if it was one). I have in the past year removed ALL secular media from my daily routine, most specifically in the past 6 months. Since then I have felt the presence of God much closer and more frequent.

Last night I had a very profound dream, and I remembered most of it in detail (which is abnormal for me) and it is the first dream (I have remembered having) in about a year. I am hoping someone here will have some insight into this. Is it more than a dream, or have I lodged so much seminary studies, Praise music, Christian media, and prayer into my brain that this is just a random dream without much significance? (Other than obvious surface meanings which I could get directly from biblical thought)

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I was taken from my bed to high place by an angel
He had curly dark hair and warm brown eyes
A white robe that ran almost to the ground
No wings were visible but a light presided behind him
He was medium skinned and wore sandals

He showed me a great looking glass
As I peered inside I seen the Earth
The Earth was clouded and a few places were visible through the clouds
Some regions of the Middle Eastern Nations
Beginning Southwest of Israel proceeding North by Northeast
Then also dropping to the Southeast
The North and Central Africas
The North and West of South America
Parts of Australia and all of Greenland
Some bits and pieces of central and Western Europe were visible
Parts of the former nation of Russia
As well as some of the Southern U.S. and most of the Midwest
Other than this, there were only relatively small holes here and there
These were thousands of tiny points
Which as we viewed closer felt to be hundreds of thousands individual homes

The angel stood atop the great looking glass
I heard the words, "Are you sure you wish to live like Him?"
Though the words seemed to proceed from the angel; his lips did not move
It seemed as though the words were coming from behind

I was taken to great valley that seemed inside the looking glass
There were Roman-like centurions that numbered in the tens of thousands
The centurions lined the horizon as if they were an invasion force
But they remained still at the top of the hills banners flying
[I vaguely remember the name XER-I on some flags]
The angel seemed to have departed from me at this time
There were two men here:
One seemed to be dressed as a Roman senator
Dressed in ornate armor plated with gold and a scarlet cape
On his fingers rings with fine jewels and a signet (IEDIILIF SIVRACIV)
[Note- I have no clue on this but I am looking into it now; anyone know if this is an ancient language? I feel I remembered this for a reason, EDLFSRC were backwards and all made of lines, no bends, the writing like runic also for XER-I]
The other looked like a representation of Jesus
(Typical prophet burlap robes, long haired with a beard)

Then appeared a third person, but it was more a creature
It repeated the question; "Are you sure you wish to live like Him?"
One side of this creature was like a beautiful woman
Androgynous with catlike eyes
The other was dead and decaying
He wore a robe of flowing red silk with a blackness inside it
He began to accuse the man with silent lip service
(not sure if I could not hear, or wasn't supposed to understand)
The man dressed like a Senator began to beat the man that resembled Jesus

The more and more he beat Him, the more the question rang out
But now coming from the dual-faced creature
[Which seemed to represent Sin, in it was beatiful but dead]
"Are you sure you wish to be like Him?"
He was struck, kicked, His blood cast out upon the dry sands
"Will you choose to live like Him?"
The prophet of God would wrestle back up only to be beaten back down
I wanted to yell, "Stay down!" but could not say a thing as if my voice were sealed.
All I could do was watch as he looked into my eyes, I cried
"Is this what you want?" I heard
The Senator continued, kicking the prophet in the face
"To live like this?"
At this point I noticed that a great multitude had gathered
The crowd was like ants flowing from the nest
And they had completely surrounded us
Laughing, mocking, jeering

The creature flew into my face followed by wisps of smoke
[at this point it just had the face of a woman but the voice of a man]
It wailed in an inhuman octave
"Do YOU know HIM?"
I looked at the man, still being beaten by the Senator.
Others from the crowd, these centurions, began to kick him
Blood was being thrown all around, the attackers mocked and laughed
"Will YOU follow Him?"
I was filled with fear, I was uncertain of who the man was
Though I believed He was Jesus, he may also be another prophet
"Will YOU deny Him?"
The creature hit me in the face, the blow was like a ton bricks
The centurions in the crowd shoved me into the circle
The Senator laughed and kicked me in the stomach
The wind was knocked out of me and the others started hitting and kicking me
One minute they were soldiers the next moment priests then soldiers again
[I found this to be the most confusing part of the dream]

The creature again pressed into my face
"Do you know who I am?"
I looked to the prophet whose wounds were beginning to swell
The creature continued
"I am the one that can make it all stop."
I was jammed in the ribs by the blunt end of a spear
It felt as if every bone in my body was breaking
"Vow your allegiance to me!"
The centurions were in a frenzy of laughter
Many appeared drunk and were drinking
Laughing, mocking, drooling their faces contorted and evil
"Only I can make it stop," the creature said again.
"Deny He who rests beside you and you will be saved from this."
The man lays there, beaten and broken.
Staring at me with bloodshot eyes, gasping, reaching towards me
"Deny your protection."
The crowd of centurions closes in and begin stomping us both visciously
The man continues to stare at me as if He is worried about me not Himself
The creature laughs and mocks us both

He returns to my face, on his hands and knees
He whispers sweetly into my ears
"You do not know Him do you?"
I find I am unable to answer
The beating continues I feel I will soon die
"Just kiss my hand," the creature dangles his hand in front of me
"I will make it all stop."
The rapid blunt force trauma is unbearable
The other man looks as if He is trying to drag Himself to me
They all begin to beat Him harder
"I can give you anything you want. Deny Him."
A flurry or wants and desires flow through me like a river
I just want to be away from here at this time
The man drags Himself closer to me still with His every ounce of strength
"Stop looking to Him, He can't help you, He is worse off than you."
The creature begins pacing in circles around us.
The man continues crawling towards me, they stomp on his fingers
"I will give you everything you ever dreamed of, DENY HIM!"
The legion begins to draw their shortswords
The creature motions with his hands
"Kill them both."
I can see several raise their swords over their heads
The man throws Himself over me and their swords all land on Him
His blood flows all over me
A ring of brambles fall to the ground next to me covered in the blood
I begin to cry

The angel stand through the crowd ahead of me
He asks:
"Do you know who this is?"
The creature says:
"Spare yourself, DENY HIM, say MY name!"
I find the strength to muster a whisper
I say:
"Jesus..."

The next thing I know I leap out of my bed. I am covered in sweat and crying, but it was very cold and I had thrown off all my covers. I immediately began to write this so that I didn't forget.

I do not know if this is merely a dream and nothing more, but it feels like more to me right now.
 
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Crimeny

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although i cannot say I have had a very similar dream, i have seen those letters before in a dream.
 
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jesusnme

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amazing dream and glad you remember it so well....i can not offer much opinion . but this sounds pretty special
 
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barukhmalachi

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Yahoo answers says xeri is greek for dry. Possibly refering to spiritual dryness. Its seems like the rest is about satan using persecution against you to turn from god and spiritual warfare, with soldiers and what not. Have you been studying spiritual warfare and armor of god. The spirit can percieve thought without speaking words as far as angel talking. The other acronym I have seen but don't remember what it is. Look at greek or roman acronyms and abreviations, like inri on cricufix is roman abrebiation for jesus of nazareth, king of the jews. I'm responding on my phone, its hard to read and help you on this small screen but it maybe god telling you areas you need to gain in. Ie. Armor of god and spiritual warfare. You are rewarded in heaven for persecution you face for his name sake. Satan don't want you growing. A dream that detailed could have many meanings in it. That is an awesome dream though, to remember a dream to that detail, it is in your spirit not just all in your mind.
 

loveme1

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It seems like a warning. Seek God for guidance.
 
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I do not take my dreams too seriously. Sometimes, though, dreams bring things to our attention.
 

damombomb

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2 Tim 1:7The Lord has not given us the spirit of fear, but of love joy,peace and a sound mind,seems you are getting closer to God
and the enemy wants to put fear on you,every perfect and good gift is from above,peaceable James 1:1
 
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Brandon777

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It's pretty obvious to me that this is a classic Job sinerio. I think God was testing your faith to let you know how much faith you have and to have more joy in Christ and to make God's sacrifice more real to you. This was not a God given dream, but one from a demon because he wanted you to deny Christ. No angel of light would do that. Do you know what would've happened if you denied Christ in a dream? While your body is unconcious, your spirit still stirs within. You still make choices when your asleep. You passed your test. Congratulations! Be thankful that you don't live in ancient Rome or other places currently around the world where this would be more than a dream.
 
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Annointed1980

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Thank you all for your insight, I have been considering it all.

(I have posted this on several forums) Some readers have pointed out that in dreams writings tend to be backwards. They said that "I-REX" was typical to Caesarian flagmen, which meant something to the effect of god-king, but literally meant #1 King in Latin.

They also pointed out using this method "IEDIILIF SIVRACIV" could also be "VICARIVS FILII DEI" which in translation means "In place of the son of God." Which also was used in Rome, primarily by the diadem that the Pope wears.

Yet another pointed out that the name; VICarIVS fILII DeI is full of numbers in Roman numerals, when added together V+I+C+I+V+S+I+L+I+I+D+I or (5+1+100+1+5+1+50+1+1+500+1) = 666!

Some have researched the locations I described, and found that these are the highest concentration regions of the world for Chirstians/Jews/Islamics, all religions of the God of Israel.

Yet others even noted that in technicality, I have been on a very long fast, and I may need to venture back out into the world. Christ died for us while we were sinners. We need to demonstrate this love to others. Christ said to "go out into the world and make disciples of nations," though we go out into the world he instructs that we need to also "be not of it."

These are just some other neat points readers found.

I am really tired and will return with better commentary later, I just returned from a week at Disney with old friends.
 
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princeofpeace

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Wow thats anawesome dream. I too am one that rarely remembers dreams and even if I do it just like the big points in it but a few months ago I had a dream in which i remembered every detail, every colo, and every action that hapened. The real specalthing is that it came when I started strengthening my walk with the Lord. i had just finished reading a book which dealt with the whole armor of God and spiritual warfare.(He came to set the captives free) I remember goig to bed with an amazing peace that night. The dream went as so.........

I was lying on my couch in my living room (not sure why because in reality I was lying in my bed in my room). Then suddenly I wasn't able to speak and it was as if someone was trying to choke me. I couldn't say anything but one word, Jesus. As I said that the choke would loosen a bit but not all the way. This continued for a while until I was able to breath rather well and cold get up and walk. However the force on my throat wasn't completely gone. I continued calling out Jesus and the grip continued to loosen. My cries for Jesus grew louder and louder and I realized I was real close to completely releasing this choke on me. At the last cry I woke up in my bed. I was sweating and was breathing very heavily. The great part about it was I was never scared at all in the entire dream I knew what the end result would be. I think we have dreams and then I think we have visions like the Bible says. You know the difference when you have one or the other.
 
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Annointed1980

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Well princeofpeace, in the beginning of Genesis, you have a representation of the Trinity. There is God, moving upon the face of the deep, then he speaks the Word, and the Holy Spirit creates whatever it is spoken, and then God [the Father] sees its good.

In your dream, you are speaking the Word by name, Jesus [the Son], who is your connection to YHWH, God [the Father], the word in Genesis used to represent the Holy Spirit [Holy Ghost] in Hebrew is "Ruach." The word "Ruach" means three things in one, it means; the air in motion, breath, and spirit of life.

You said you were reading something on "Setting the Captives Free." It seems God was giving you a virtual manifestation of His power in action.

James 4:6-7 says "And God shall give abundant grace as the scriptures say, "God sets Himself up against the proud and resists them, but to the lowly and humble He will deliver grace." Be therefore in subjection to God, stand firm against Satan and he shall flee like a coward." (Young's English Seminary Translation)Luke 8:26-39, tells a tale of Jesus casting out the demon known as Legion [because they were many]. When he approaches and asks the unclean spirit its name, it adheres, then begs permission to be allowed to kill itself!!! What power and authority is that!?

I mean this man that had this demonic entity, Legion, in him was so fearsome that they would bind him in shackles in a cave outside of town! 10 seconds in Jesus' presence and they WANT to die!

Okay okay, longwinded now, let me summarize: [The Evil force, we'll just say...] Satan is strangling you, you can't breathe. But, he cannot subdue the power hidden in the mere name of Jesus, so you can say this. You can at first barely squeeze out a "Jesus," but then by the covenant with Jesus, YHWH, God the Father hears and reacts by releasing the Ruach [Holy Spirit] which fills you. Each time you call out His name, the wicked one further loses his grip until finally he is powerless against you, through God. "Until I have made thy foes a footstool under your feet." [Luke: 20:43]

You were not afraid because you know you were going to be redeemed. Redemption is promised to the believer of Christ, therefore you had a promise you could count on, one from YHWH, God the Father!

So give two stomps to send that one down Satan's spine!
 
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princeofpeace

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Well princeofpeace, in the beginning of Genesis, you have a representation of the Trinity. There is God, moving upon the face of the deep, then he speaks the Word, and the Holy Spirit creates whatever it is spoken, and then God [the Father] sees its good.

In your dream, you are speaking the Word by name, Jesus [the Son], who is your connection to YHWH, God [the Father], the word in Genesis used to represent the Holy Spirit [Holy Ghost] in Hebrew is "Ruach." The word "Ruach" means three things in one, it means; the air in motion, breath, and spirit of life.

You said you were reading something on "Setting the Captives Free." It seems God was giving you a virtual manifestation of His power in action.

James 4:6-7 says "And God shall give abundant grace as the scriptures say, "God sets Himself up against the proud and resists them, but to the lowly and humble He will deliver grace." Be therefore in subjection to God, stand firm against Satan and he shall flee like a coward." (Young's English Seminary Translation)Luke 8:26-39, tells a tale of Jesus casting out the demon known as Legion [because they were many]. When he approaches and asks the unclean spirit its name, it adheres, then begs permission to be allowed to kill itself!!! What power and authority is that!?

I mean this man that had this demonic entity, Legion, in him was so fearsome that they would bind him in shackles in a cave outside of town! 10 seconds in Jesus' presence and they WANT to die!

Okay okay, longwinded now, let me summarize: [The Evil force, we'll just say...] Satan is strangling you, you can't breathe. But, he cannot subdue the power hidden in the mere name of Jesus, so you can say this. You can at first barely squeeze out a "Jesus," but then by the covenant with Jesus, YHWH, God the Father hears and reacts by releasing the Ruach [Holy Spirit] which fills you. Each time you call out His name, the wicked one further loses his grip until finally he is powerless against you, through God. "Until I have made thy foes a footstool under your feet." [Luke: 20:43]

You were not afraid because you know you were going to be redeemed. Redemption is promised to the believer of Christ, therefore you had a promise you could count on, one from YHWH, God the Father!

So give two stomps to send that one down Satan's spine!
Satan has got to be hating this thread. He better get use to it. Jesus is in us and i don't think anyone here is planning on going back. Advance to God's kingdom!!!
 
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Annointed1980

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Amen to that brother!
 
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mori

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They also pointed out using this method "IEDIILIF SIVRACIV" could also be "VICARIVS FILII DEI" which in translation means "In place of the son of God." Which also was used in Rome, primarily by the diadem that the Pope wears.

Yet another pointed out that the name; VICarIVS fILII DeI is full of numbers in Roman numerals, when added together V+I+C+I+V+S+I+L+I+I+D+I or (5+1+100+1+5+1+50+1+1+500+1) = 666!
I'm going to stop short of calling all-out shenanigans, but your translation of "vicarius" implies to me that you have a bone to pick with the Pope, a bone substantial enough that you're willing to twist the truth to achieve whatever goals you may have.

If anyone is interested in what the word actually means, I would suggest a Latin lexicon. This is one of the more comprehensive. In almost all the cases presented there, the word implies working with delegated authority. In some cases, the word is even applied to slaves. Jesus did delegate authority to his disciples. For example, Matthew 28:18-20 is the language of deputization. If his disciples were described in Latin, they would be properly described as vicarii.

It's not an evil word and it does, in fact, indicate the sort of relationship we're supposed to have with Christ.

Is it more than a dream, or have I lodged so much seminary studies, Praise music, Christian media, and prayer into my brain that this is just a random dream without much significance?
You may have had a dream, but you added a lot later. You will probably respond poorly, because you put so much effort into this you have to be emotionally attached to it, but you didn't remember that much detail.

There is no reason to throw other Christian denominations under the bus because you want to be considered a prophet.
 
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SpaceCowboy

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That was epic.
 
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mori

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Also, lol:

All photographs of the tiara, including close-up photographs taken from all sides at the coronation of Pius XII in 1939 show that it actually contains no writing. None of the existing tiaras in the collection, the oldest of which dates back to the 16th century, in fact contains the words Vicarius Filii Dei.
All it takes is a little research. How dedicated to the truth are you?
 
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Annointed1980

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I'm going to stop short of calling all-out shenanigans, but your translation of "vicarius" implies to me that you have a bone to pick with the Pope, a bone substantial enough that you're willing to twist the truth to achieve whatever goals you may have.

You may have had a dream, but you added a lot later. You will probably respond poorly, because you put so much effort into this you have to be emotionally attached to it, but you didn't remember that much detail.

There is no reason to throw other Christian denominations under the bus because you want to be considered a prophet.
Wow, really?

First off my friend; God bless you and help you find some peace.

I have many friends that are Catholics, one of my best friends at that. As far as the Pope is concerned, I have no qualms with the man at all. I honestly don't know him at all, so I don't know where you gather such assumptions from. I once seen John Paul in his Pope-mobile, I thought he was an awesome Pope! I truly think that he WAS a saint. As far as Benedict is concerned, I really don't know much of him.

What truth may I ask, have I twisted? Reposting some of the things others said? I simply figured if I take comments from here and place them there, and then from there and place them here, others will find info that may prove useful. Since Christ ascended, that is typically how the founding church fathers found if there was truth or relevance in a situation or sign. The "Body of Christ" would review it and beseech the "Head" (Jesus) for guidance on what the Father may be attempting to convey. I do not seek to be called anything my friend, I am but a humble fool, and fellow servant. All glory is delivered to God and He alone.

I did have a dream, and I added nothing to it at all. Be careful friend when rendering judgement on others, I warn out of love for you brother, not contempt. I was once a very very sinful man, and I fight hard to fast of the world and remain faithful and true my God, as penance for the life I lived. I know Christ has already washed me clean and forgiven me, and I have forgiven myself, but I cannot forget what I have done, so I atone every day. Since then God has revealed to me a multitude of miracles and delivered me many evils and trials. You do not want to bear the burden of this yoke, please, for your own sake, do not judge me. Unless you know that you are perfect and prepared yourself for the Judgement Seat of the Lord, in which you will be accountable for your sins and the sins of your judgements. Fair warning before you respond, I was once a criminal, and a wretched man.

I want you to know that I forgive you brother. Your flesh and emotions have misguided you to both my intention and how I live my life. May the peace of our Lord Jesus be upon you and your family. May God bless you with mercy and grace.
 
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Annointed1980

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Also, lol:

All it takes is a little research. How dedicated to the truth are you?
Mori, I do not understand your anger towards me, but:

"But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." Matthew 5:39

I am sorry, I have not had the time to research much of this, given that I have to work to support my 5 year old son, make adequate time to be his father, then I have seminary classes, volunteer as a youth pastor/youth group coordinator at the IWC, volunteer as a Stephen Minister in retirement homes and 2 prisons twice a week, volunteer time as a Pastoral Counselor with troubled teens at Victory Christian Center, while giving free recording time and running a studio for a handful of independent Christian artists, volunteering to run two Christian AA/NA meetings a week with 12 step, and juggling time to volunteer as a cook/waiter for the homeless at the local Grace Methodist soup kitchen, while trying to make 4 different worship services and 2 prayer meetings, and blog my sermons and self-help articles online... (I probably forgot a thing or two but you get the point)

I guess I just simply didn't have the time friend. Again, I apologize that I have vexed you so.

But, many have found this dream, to be inspiring, empowering, and faith strengthening, and I have had a hundred "thanks for sharing comments."

"Remember the words I spoke to you: 'No servant is greater than his master.' If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also." John 15:20

If you have so much information on the subject, why don't you share more of its significance instead of throwing out accusations about people having quarrels with the pope. You obviously know something about it, others have also commented about it. There is obviously a subject of significance to it. Instead of being objective because of hidden motives only you see, explain its true significance if you have the truth on the matter.
 
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mori

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I am sorry, I have not had the time to research much of this, given <...>
Ridiculous excuses. You had time to type it up in such detail, but not spend five minutes in Google? Please.

You're casually sharing old anti-Catholic propaganda without checking your sources. Please don't play dumb - you understand why someone would take issue with this.