STOP BASHING CHRISTIAN METAL!!

[HearOhIsreal]

I don't know, maybe this cannot be answered, and I don't think that all rock music is demonic, its just the heavy guitar riffs, lyrics and drums (instrumentals) that can make it demonic. These things, being the creation of the human spirit, are very easily led captive by the spirit of idolatry, and that is really what is evil about it, idolatry. For by itself and in its very nature, it can teach man not to worship God but the instrumentals and earthy tunes, because that was what rock music was created for - idolatry. If you look inside yourself and your internal spiritual state, you will notice that you have made an idol out of rock music and that it is, in fact, idolatrous. Because of this, there is a very fine line in this sort of music between the worship of God and the worship of self (idolatry), and I think some people who listen to it worship the music and themselves rather than God.

I see. I honestly do not know if I'm exalting the music or if I'm exalting God. I'm a big lyrics person, so I don't pay much attention to the instruments. It is the lyrics that get to me and make me love the music, whether it be someone smoothly singing the lyrics or someone screaming the lyrics. I can say however, that the only reason I listen to Christian Metal is because it is christian, and it exalts God and His Word through lyrics. Music is a really tricky subject when it comes to Christianity.. I'm still not sure if it is right or wrong.

 

[Zilla64007]

Amplified - Intimacy with lyrics - YouTube

God really used this band to speak to me

 

[StMichaelTheArchangel]

a lot of this makes me laugh...

a musical instrument is not satanic.
a musical note is not satanic.

Electric guitars were not inspired by the spirit of God, i've heard Orthodox teachers call the guitar riffs "demonic waves". The drums are barbaric, coming from the jungles of Africa.

If anyone wants to listen there is a talk right here about rock music and the evil of it:

http://www.pantocrator.me/en/logos/c_z/on_faith/007_On_Rock_Music-On_Dating.mp3

 

[Zilla64007]

lol, again, show me in the bible the exact verse that says specifically and explicitly "thou shalt not listen to Christian metal"

 

[ChosenbyHim]

This is annoying... why does everyone bash contemporary christian music??? If the lyrics are glorifying God.. That's all that matters!! Get out of tradition ansd stop putting limits on God!! God can use ANY genre of music to got His message across!! I love Christian Metal.. Becoming the Archetype is my favorite.. Their music puts me in spirit of worship.. Many of thier songs talk about the absolute power of God. How dare you tell ANYONE how to worship God!! That's a control spirit.. and i rebuke that!

Hey there Dude653,

Both Protection_Retribution and Stone are right. We can't take some type of music that originated from paganism and use it worship God. I just recently started studying the Christian rock music issue, and I am convinced that the Contemporary Christian Movement is not of the LORD. Rock music

Check out this link for more info:

Rock Music: The Devil's Advocate

(a) "Christian rock [music] is the daughter of worldly rock. It tries to make the Christian message more appealing to the world by using a worldly medium. ... Charismatics and New Evangelicals have tried to Christianize demonic rock music, mixing holy with unholy, to reach today's young people. They said, 'To win them, we must speak their language.' But when they won them, what did they win them to? Whatever weak Gospel message [might be there] is lost in the process. May we similarly "Christianize" liquor by putting a Gospel message on the bottle label, and have Christians buy and promote it to reach drunks for Jesus? A good goal does not justify unscriptural methods" (8/15/89, Calvary Contender).

(b) "For those whose eyes have not seen and whose ears have not heard, Contemporary Christian Music, or CCM as the insiders call it, is essentially conventional rock or pop music with the lyrics changed to protect the innocent" (James Chute, The Milwaukee Journal).

(c) "... what many in the church today seem to believe: you must have an angle to present the gospel to a hostile world ... It has opened the door to some bizarre evangelistic strategies. The church apes nearly every fad of secular society. Heavy metal rock, rap, graffiti, break dancing, body building, brick smashing, jazzercize, interpretive dance, and stand-up comedy all have been added to the evangelical repertoire. ... It is nothing but hedonism under the guise of religion. Many assume that without some gimmick, the gospel message just won't reach people, and unless we accommodate it to the fashion of our day, we can't hope for it to be effective. ... Thus modern churches feel they must plan and program for attracting unbelievers who cannot be persuaded with revealed truth ..." (Our Sufficiency in Christ, pp. 145-146). (Emphasis added.) [Please don't take the use of this quote as an endorsement of the book's author or of his ministry.]


Julius Portnoy has also found that not only can music [score] "change metabolism, affect muscular energy, raise or lower blood pressure, and influence digestion," but "It may be able to do all these things more successfully ... than any other stimulants that produce those changes in our bodies" (p. 138). Musicologist Alice Monsarrat points out that it "is precisely at this point that rock 'n' roll ... becomes potentially dangerous. This is because, to maintain a sense of well-being and integration, it is essential that man is not subjected too much to any rhythms not in accord with his natural bodily rhythms" (p. 199).

 

[StMichaelTheArchangel]

lol, again, show me in the bible the exact verse that says specifically and explicitly "thou shalt not listen to Christian metal"

Tell me one verse which tells us to use drums and electric guitars for singing to God.

 

[ChosenbyHim]

This is annoying... why does everyone bash contemporary christian music??? If the lyrics are glorifying God.. That's all that matters!! Get out of tradition ansd stop putting limits on God!! God can use ANY genre of music to got His message across!! I love Christian Metal.. Becoming the Archetype is my favorite.. Their music puts me in spirit of worship.. Many of thier songs talk about the absolute power of God. How dare you tell ANYONE how to worship God!! That's a control spirit.. and i rebuke that!

Rock Music: The Devil's Advocate​

By Terry Watkins​

According to the book The Emerging Generation, the average teenager consumes 6 hours a day of rock music! It is their most devoted companion. It's their teacher, preacher, and guiding light! It dictates every detail of their life — from what they wear . . . to what they believe! Dr. Alan Bloom, in the The Closing of the American Mind, writes:

"It is their passion; nothing else excites them as it does; they cannot take seriously anything alien to music." (The Closing of the American Mind, p.68)

Rock music is more than just music — IT'S THEIR LIFE!

I want to take you on a tour through today's rock music. And if think rock is still — "I Want to Hold Your Hand" — you're in for the shock of your life!

Homosexual rock star, David Bowie in Rolling Stone magazine (Feb. 12, 1976), stunned the music world, when he stated:

"Rock has always been THE DEVIL'S MUSIC . . . I believe rock and roll is dangerous . . . I feel we're only heralding SOMETHING EVEN DARKER THAN OURSELVES." (Rolling Stone, Feb. 12, 1976)

And something dark and evil is slithering under the ROCK!

In the song "The Conjuring" by Megadeth, the REAL mission of rock is clearly heard:

"I AM THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE
A SALESMAN, if you will . . .
Come join me in my INFERNAL DEPTHS . . .
I've got your soul!"
At the end of the song — they chant "OBEY"!
Rocker Frank Zappa (who discovered the awful truth December 4, 1993 the second he died) proudly boasted:

"I'm the devil's advocate. We have our own worshippers who are called 'groupies.' Girls will give their bodies to musicians as you would give a sacrifice to a god." (Peters Brothers, What About Christian Rock, p. 17)
The super group, Metallica, in the song "Jump In the Fire", commands young people to jump into hell:
"Follow me now my child . . .
DO JUST AS I SAY . . .
Jump by your will or be taken by force
I'll get you either way . . .
So reach down grab my hand walk with me through the land
COME HOME WHERE YOU BELONG
So come on JUMP IN THE FIRE."
In the cover song, "The Prince", Metallica openly sing:

"Angel from below . . .
I WISH TO SELL MY SOUL . . .
DEVIL TAKE MY SOUL
with diamonds you repay
I don't care for heaven
so don't you look for me to cry
AND I WILL BURN IN HELL
from the day I die."
Rock star, Marilyn Manson, proudly boasts:

"Hopefully, I’ll be remembered as the person who brought an end to Christianity." (Spin, August 1996, p. 34)
Manson, an ordained "reverend" in the Church of Satan, mutilates himself on stage (1 Kings 18:28), rips-up the Holy Bible, and spews "blasphemies" against the Lord Jesus Christ. Manson’s T-Shirts declare, "KILL YOUR PARENTS" & "I ¤ SATAN". Manson claims his album Antichrist Superstar came via "supernatural-inspiration":
"I heard this album as finished, I heard it in dreams . . . It was like the revelations of John the Baptist or something." (huH, Oct. 1996, p.34)
Manson’s "hope" for Antichrist Superstar,:

"I think every time people listen to this new album maybe God will be destroyed in their heads. . ." (huH, Oct. 1996, p.37)
Manson’s "blasphemy" is not just an act. Manson readily admitts there's more to the show than meets the eye:

I don’t know if anyone has really understood what we’re trying to do. This isn’t just about shock value . . . that’s just there to lure the people in. Once we’ve got ‘em we can give ‘em our MESSAGE. (Hit Parader, Oct. 1996, p.28)
Manson admits his childhood longing for Satan:

My mom used to tell me when I was a kid, ‘If you curse at nighttime, the devil’s going to come to you when you’re sleeping.’ I used to get excited because I really wanted it to happen . . . I wanted it. I wanted it more than anything . . .(Rolling Stone, January, 23, 1997 p.52)
Twisted Sister sings, "Burn in Hell":

"Welcome to the abandoned land
COME ON IN CHILD, TAKE MY HAND
Here there's no work or play
Only one bill to pay
There's just five words to say
As you go down, down, down
YOU'RE GONNA BURN IN HELL!"
Bon Jovi sings in "Homebound Train":

"When I was just a boy
THE DEVIL TOOK MY HAND
Took me from my home
He made me a man . . .
I'm going DOWN, DOWN, DOWN, DOWN, DOWN
On the homebound train."
In Smash Hits magazine, Bon Jovi says:
" . . . I'd kill my mother for rock and roll. I WOULD SELL MY SOUL."
So would Tommy Sullivan of New Jersey — AND TOMMY DID!
Tommy, your typical, all-American, fourteen-year-old, one Saturday night, slit his own mother's throat, and then gouged her eyes out. Tommy then slashed his wrists and cut his throat from ear-to-ear, with an intensity that nearly decapitated him. Mayor Fran Slayton said, "There's just something that's bothering me about this situation. It bothers me that a good kid like that can go in two weeks." Tommy's father said, all week his son had been singing a ROCK SONG, "about blood and killing your mother."

Dr. Paul King, medical director of the adolescent program at Charter Lakeside Hospital, in Memphis Tennessee, says more than 80 percent of his patients are there because of rock music. He says, "the lyrics become a philosophy of life, a RELIGION."

One of the most popular groups in rock history is Slayer. Slayer sing of themselves, as: "Warriors from the gates of hell . . .
In lord Satan we trust." Slayer's albums sell in the millions! And song after song — IS PRAISE TO SATAN! Their song "Hell Awaits" says:

"Jesus knows your soul cannot be saved
CRUCIFY THE SO CALLED LORD
He soon shall fall to me
Your souls are damned
Your God has fell to slave for me eternally
Hell awaits."
The beginning of their song "Hell Awaits" contains an obvious backwards message. When played forward, nothing but garbled noise is heard, but when played backwards — you hear the real message — "JOIN US, JOIN US, JOIN US" — over and over!


Does this music effect young people?

A Slayer fan writes in Spin magazine (May 1989):
"I hate your God, Jesus Christ. SATAN IS MY LORD. I sacrifice animals for him. My god is Slayer. Its THE WORDS of their music I BELIEVE IN."
The group Acheron, has an album titled, "The Rites of the Black Mass". On the album Peter Gilmore, of the Church of Satan, actually reads the rites of a Black Mass, as the group Acheron, in hellish growls, sings such lyrics as:

"Glory to thee almighty Satan . . .
We praise thee, we bless thee,
WE ADORE THEE . . .
THOU ART LORD, THOU ALONE,
OH MIGHTY SATAN."
The group Manowar, sings in "The Bridge of Death":

"Dark Lord, I summon thee
Demanding the sacred right to burn in hell . . .
Take My lustful soul
Drink my blood as I drink yours . . .
LUCIFER IS KING
PRAISE SATAN!"
The group Morbid Angel, sings in "Vengeance in Mine":

"Mote it be
Satan's sword I have become . . .
I burn with hate
TO RID THE WORLD OF THE NAZARENE!"
And to commit the ultimate blasphemy — they sing in the song "Blasphemy":
"Chant the blasphemy
Mockery of the Messiah
WE CURSE THE HOLY GHOST . . .
Blaspheme the Ghost
BLASPHEMY OF THE HOLY GHOST."
Trey Azagthoh of Morbid Angel claims to be a REAL vampire, and while playing onstage — he actually bites himself and then drinks his own blood!
The song "Stairway to Heaven" by the group Led Zeppelin is the most popular song in rock history. One line of the song, says, "you know sometimes words have TWO MEANINGS." They should know — the song is drenched in satanic backmasking! One part when played forward, says: "Yes, their are two paths you can go by, but in the long run there's still time to change the road you're on." But when played backwards, you clearly hear: "IT'S MY SWEET SATAN . . . Oh I will sing because I live with Satan." This is the number one song in rock history! Just a coincidence — not hardly! Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin is a devout follower of satanist, Aliester Crowley. One of Crowley's satanic teachings, learn to cast unsuspecting spells on people by saying them backwards! Zeppelin's song "Houses of the Holy", they sing, "Let the music be YOUR MASTER/ Will you heed the master's call/ Oh, Satan . . ."

One of the top songs of the 70's was "Hotel California" by the Eagles. Most people have no idea the song refers to the Church of Satan, which happens to be located in a converted HOTEL on CALIFORNIA street! On the inside of the album cover, looking down on the festivities, is Anton Lavey, the founder of the Church of Satan and author of the Satanic Bible! People say, the Eagles aren't serious, they're just selling records. That's what you think! The Eagles manager, Larry Salter, admitted in the Waco Tribune-Herald, (Feb. 28, 1982) that the Eagles were involved with the Church of Satan! Not surprisingly, one of the Eagles's songs is titled "Have A Good Day in Hell."

The group Kiss leaped on stage as rock'n roll demons — puking blood, breathing fire and screaming — "God of rock'n roll, we'll steal your virgin soul."

In their song "God of Thunder", they command young people to kneel before Satan:

"I'm lord of the wasteland, a modern day man of steel
I gather darkness to please me
and I COMMAND YOU TO KNEEL
Before, The God of thunder, the god of rock'n roll
I'LL STEAL YOUR VIRGIN SOUL!"
Female rocker, Kat sings in the Simon-Says parody called, "Satan Says":

"Hi, boys and girls!
We're going to play a game called Satan says! . . .
We're going to do everything that Satan says, Right?
. . . Satan says, Follow me!
SATAN SAYS, GO TO HELL!"
The group Bow Wow Wow, in their song "Prince of Darkness", openly give an invitation to receive Satan, as they sing:

"So open the door and LET SATAN IN, The Prince of Darkness."
The group Sad Iron, proudly sing their praise to the devil:

"We all praise the devil
He is so fine
We all praise the devil
Till the day we'll die!"
The group W.A.S.P., who proudly admit W.A.S.P. stands for We Are Sex Perverts, sing in "Sleeping in the Fire":

"Taste the LOVE,
THE LUCIFER'S MAGIC
That makes you numb
You feel what it does and you're drunk on love
YOU'RE SLEEPING IN THE FIRE!"
During their concerts, WASP would throw hunks of raw meat out in the audience and young people in a demonic frenzy, would actually eat the raw meat like a wild animal! On the back of their album reads:
"The gods you worship are steel,
AT THE ALTAR OF ROCK AND ROLL YOU KNEEL."
Motley Crue sings in "Wild Side":

"I carry my crucifix, under my deathlist
Forward my mail to me in hell . . .
OUR FATHER, WHO AIN'T IN HEAVEN
Be thy name on the wild side."
The group Black Sabbath have actually given invitations during their concerts for young people to receive Satan. One of their albums, is truthfully titled, "We Sold Our Soul for Rock'n Roll". Their song N.I.B. (Nativity In Black) is one of the most openly satanic songs ever recorded. It is a love-song from Lucifer, in which Lucifer invites the listener to "please take my hand", the lyrics:

"Some people say MY LOVE cannot be true
Please believe me, MY LOVE, and I'll show you
I will give you those things you thought unreal . . .
YOUR LOVE FOR ME has just got to be real . . .
Look into my eyes, you will see who I am
MY NAME IS LUCIFER, PLEASE TAKE MY HAND!"
One of the most popular groups in rock is AC/DC. In the song, "Hells Bells", they sing:

"I got my bell
I'm gonna take you to hell
I'm gonna get ya
SATAN GET YA"
Their song "Highway to Hell" rhey sing:
"Ain't nothing I would rather do
GOIN' DOWN, PARTY TIME
My friends are gonna be there too . . .
Hey Satan, paid my dues . . .
I'm on the way to the promised land
I'm on the HIGHWAY TO HELL."
The satanist, Richard Ramirez, known as the "Night Stalker", who terrorized California, claims AC/DC's song "Night Prowler" compelled him to murder and sacrifice at least 14 people to Satan!

The group Suicidal Tendencies, whose songs glorify suicide and have been linked to teen suicides, reveal a frightening truth in the song "Possessed":

"I'M A PRISONER OF A DEMON . . .
It stays with me wherever I go
I can't break away from its hold
This must be my punishment
FOR SELLING MY SOUL!"
The group Unleashed, in the song "Crush the Skull", blatantly sing of their hatred of Jesus Christ:

"I gaze into his glassy eyes
And pluck him by the beard
I uplift a broadaxe
And split open HIS WORM EATEN SKULL
Crush the skull — Sacrifice
Crush the skull — DIE CHRIST!"
Where did they get such disgusting lyrics? Straight out of the Satanic Bible — Book of Satan 1:10!
Pink Floyd sings, in the song "Sheep",

"The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want . . .
With bright knives he RELEASETH MY SOUL
He maketh me to hang on hooks in high places . . .
For lo, he hath great power and GREAT HUNGER."
Their song, "Lucifer Sam", they sing:
"LUCIFER Sam . . . Always sitting by your side
Always by your side."
The group Possessed, in the suicide song, "No Will To Live" sing: "Drink the blood from my chalice
Come to hell and my palace . . .
Take you to the evil land . . .
You can only live by death
WORSHIP SATAN WITH THE REST!" In their song "Tribulation", they proclaim their love for Satan as they sing:

"IN LOVE WITH SATAN."
The song, "The Oath" by Mercyful Fate, is the actual oath a satanist takes during a Black Mass ritual! some of the lyrics:

"I DENY JESUS CHRIST, THE DECEIVER
And I abjure the Christian faith
Holding in contempt all of it's works . . .
In this world I swear to give my full allegiance, to it's lawful master
TO WORSHIP HIM, OUR LORD SATAN, AND NO OTHER!"
The song "Sympathy for the Devil" by the Rolling Stones, is the official anthem for the Church of Satan. In it, Lucifer speaks in the first person and asks sympathy for all who meet him. Lead singer, Mick Jagger claims that Anton Lavey, the founder of the Church of Satan and author of the Satanic Bible, help inspire their music! Their album titled, "Their Satanic Majesties Request", leaves no doubt to their allegiance!

The group Venom reveal the real reason for their music, as they sing:

"We're not here to entertain you . . .
I PREACH THE WAYS OF SATAN
Answer to his calls!"
Their song "Possessed", they sing:
"I am possessed by all that is evil
The death of your God, I demand . . . AND SIT AT LORD SATAN'S LEFT HAND!"
These are some of the most popular groups in the world! And these are not isolated cases! These are just a drop in the bucket! This is dangerous and serious satanic worship — and rock music is filled with it!

When you consider, the average young person ingests 6 hours a day of this

What do you think this music is doing?

According to the book, Satanism in America, which is endorsed by the National Criminal Justice Task Force on Occult Related Ritualistic Crimes, hard-core Satanism is, "the fastest-growing subculture among America's TEENS."

Studies taken by the Georgia Police Academy revealed — 90% of those involved in satanism are TEENAGERS!

Television personality, Geraldo Rivera, who explored the terrifying rise of Satanism said, "It exists AND IT'S FLOURISHING. IT IS TEENAGERS who are most likely to fall under the spell of satanism."

How serious are they? At the 1992 MTV Awards, the group Red Hot Chili Peppers, upon receiving their award and giving thanks, said:
"FIRST OF ALL we want to thank Satan . . ."
These groups know perfectly well who they're serving and they are totally dedicated to their god! In Hit Parader magazine, Bruce Dickinson of Iron Maiden, says:

"We can play with CONVICTION every night, because we TOTALLY BELIEVE in the music we're performing."
Like Iron Maiden's, song "The Number of the Beast", in which they direct young people to take the Mark of the Beast:
"666 the Number of the Beast
666 THE ONE FOR YOU AND ME!"
The group Deicide, whose name means "death of God", sing of their devotion in the song "In Hell I Burn":

"In Hell I burn, no questions remain
In hell I burn for Satan."
Their song, "Oblivious To Evil" describes a satanic human sacrifice. It begins with an invitation to "join us&q a p:
"Join us . . .
Sacrifice of the unborn child
Enter the kingdom of darkness
Sodomized for the ritual . . .
Infernal majesty, take this dead offering."
Deicide Vocalist Glen Benton, displaying his complete devotion to Satan, has an upside down cross actually branded into his forehead!
The group Coven, sings in "Burn the Cross":

"Son of God repent your sins
And pledge your soul to hell
Pray that Satan will forgive
Once your God has failed . . .
YOUR GOD IS DEAD and now you die
SATAN RULES AT LAST!"
To show their burning hatred of Jesus Christ, and blaspheme His death on the cross, they sing "Christsycle":
"If you're looking for a Saviour
Then I've got the trick
Christsycle
SALVATION ON A STICK."
The popular group, Danzig in their song, "Snakes of Christ", declare their hatred for Jesus Christ, as they sing:

"SERPENT JESUS, SNAKES OF CHRIST
Gonna build you a world of lies."
Inside the album is Glenn Danzig, wearing the satanic upside-down cross, above him is proudly quoted, John 8:44, "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do." One of their logos is a demon strangling Jesus Christ with blood gushing from His eyes! Johnny Cash, has included on his latest album — a song written by satanist Glenn Danzig! And Johnny Cash has the audacity to call himself a Christian!

Friend, the facts speak loud and clear! Satan is alive and well!

To think for one second, this music is accident or trivial, is ridiculous! From the attack on Jesus Christ, to glorification of hell and Satan — there is a evil and guiding hand! There is no logical or rational explanation for such lyrics — besides the obvious influence of Satan!

And one clear message is heard — over and over —
SATAN WANTS YOU TO BURN IN HELL!

Jesus says in John 14:6, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, BUT BY ME."

Friend, there is only ONE WAY out of hell —
THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!

Friend, as sure as you live and breathe — if you die without Jesus Christ — that instant, YOU WILL BE IN HELL!

in flames. . . (Luke 16:24) in torment . . . (Luke 16:24 ) for ever. . . (Matt. 25:41)

Friend, I want to ask you the most important question in your life:

Is there a time and place in your life, when you trusted in Jesus Christ, and Him alone, as your personal Savior?

Maybe you don't listen to rock music. You may be the best person in your neighborhood. You may even be a faithful church member.

But, the Bible is very clear.

Jesus Christ says in Matthew 12:30, "He that is not with me is AGAINST ME . . ."

When you say no to Jesus — you say yes to Satan! Yes, Satan, I'll see you in hell!

And friend, that's a very, very serious thing to do!

Jesus Christ loved you so much that He died on an old, rugged cross nearly 2,000 years ago — He did that for YOU!

And now, friend — the next move is YOURS.

Jesus or Satan. Heaven or Hell.
THE CHOICE IS YOURS
You can be saved this minute.

Pray this prayer and mean it with all your heart.

Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner, and unless you save me I am lost forever. I believe you died on the cross for me. I come to you now, the best way I know how, and ask you to save me. I now receive you as my Savior. In Jesus Christ Name. Amen.

 

[HearOhIsreal]

We have to examine what was used in the Bible to exalt the Lord.

2 Samuel 6:5
And David and all the house of Israel played before the LORD on all manner of instruments made of fir wood, even on harps, and on psalteries, and on timbrels, and on cornets, and on cymbals.

1 Chronicles 13:8
And David and all Israel played before God with all their might, and with singing, and with harps, and with psalteries, and with timbrels, and with cymbals, and with trumpets.

1 Chronicles 15:16
And David spake to the chief of the Levites to appoint their brethren to be the singers with instruments of musick, psalteries and harps and cymbals, sounding, by lifting up the voice with joy.

1 Chronicles 15:28
Thus all Israel brought up the ark of the covenant of the LORD with shouting, and with sound of the cornet, and with trumpets, and with cymbals, making a noise with psalteries and harps.

1 Chronicles 25:6
All these were under the hands of their father for song in the house of the LORD, with cymbals, psalteries, and harps, for the service of the house of God, according to the king's order to Asaph, Jeduthun, and Heman.

2 Chronicles 5:12
Also the Levites which were the singers, all of them of Asaph, of Heman, of Jeduthun, with their sons and their brethren, being arrayed in white linen, having cymbals and psalteries and harps, stood at the east end of the altar, and with them an hundred and twenty priests sounding with trumpets

There are many more verses like these, but this will do.

So it seems that six things are consistent throughout the Bible when it comes to exalting the Lord with instruments: trumpets, cymbals, harps, psalteries, cornets, and timbrels.

The Bible does not say we are limited to these instrument only, but it doesn't say we aren't limited either. Who knows.

 

[loveme1]

I know people who came to God listening to Christian metal. Is their salvation null and void because as my father used to say "satan's instruments" brought them to Christ?

Was Yahweh's word not good enough to bring them to our Saviour Yeshua son of Almighty Yahweh?

Do you not see that we fit into Yahweh, not him fit into our ways.

I am unable to comment on other people's salvation, but we must realise that satan will try anything to lead people away from the truth.

 

[Crimeny]

talking from experience, rock music is not at all in any shape way or form christian, in fact john todd talked about it as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChV3Jgrrp7o

 

[Spiritual_Plague]

If an athiest or satanist made multiple t-shirts for anyone to use for free, and Christians starting using those t-shirts and put scriptures on those t-shirts.....then we shouldn't be wearing such t-shirts even though there are godly messages and scriptures on them that are encouraging other people and influencing them in faith, because the t-shirts initially came from people that didn't have God.

These arguments against Christian Metal are no different than the one I shared above. Do any of you realize how stupid your "rationale" is? I hope so

 

[wwjd_kilden]

Doesnt the bible say something about "all things are allowable to me, but not all are good"? ...

but, in support of rock: I have been to christian rock concers with ten times more evangelism (literal evangelism: People preaching salvation between songs) than traidtional gospel concerts....

 

[rainacorn]

Christian metal bands are not better than secular metal bands.

If the music were somehow better then I think you'd have a good case here, but it's not. It tends to be watered down or like a cheap copy of something mainstream. There are a couple of bands that are technically proficient, but very very few that are actually innovative in some way.

I don't care if you want to listen to it, but let's not pretend that it's actually better than secular metal. They just growl about different subject matter. If you're avoiding listening to secular metal because you think it's too hateful and angry, then why are you listening to cheap knock offs of it? The music is still hateful and angry.

If you aren't feeling convicted on what you listen to, then I don't know why you're going for replacement bands in the first place. They aren't as good. If you ARE feeling convicted on what you're listening to, then stop listening to it. Don't just find a Christianized version of it to make yourself feel like you're being obedient...actually BE obedient and stop ingesting it.

 

[See_KING_Truth]

This thread does not belong in the bible discussion forum.

 

[lil_christian]

I don't know, maybe this cannot be answered, and I don't think that all rock music is demonic, its just the heavy guitar riffs, lyrics and drums (instrumentals) that can make it demonic.

I personally do not think it's how you play something...lyrics I agree with. Lyrics can determine a lot. But how you play a guitar riff DOES NOT DETERMINE where your relationship with God is, whether it's demonic or not, or anything. It's about the intent of the heart.

 

[rainacorn]

I personally do not think it's how you play something...lyrics I agree with. Lyrics can determine a lot. But how you play a guitar riff DOES NOT DETERMINE where your relationship with God is, whether it's demonic or not, or anything. It's about the intent of the heart.

Partially true. There is an automatic physical and neurological reaction to different types and styles of music even without lyrics. Something can 'sound sad' without the singer saying 'I am so sad.' Same for every other emotion.

 

[SantoSubito]

Tell me one verse which tells us to use drums and electric guitars for singing to God.

While I agree with you I don't think guitars or drums are demonic instruments. For worship the use of instruments should be limited to those that are appropriate like violins, cellos, organs, pianos, etc or not used at all in favor of chanting.

 

[SantoSubito]

If an athiest or satanist made multiple t-shirts for anyone to use for free, and Christians starting using those t-shirts and put scriptures on those t-shirts.....then we shouldn't be wearing such t-shirts even though there are godly messages and scriptures on them that are encouraging other people and influencing them in faith, because the t-shirts initially came from people that didn't have God.

These arguments against Christian Metal are no different than the one I shared above. Do any of you realize how stupid your "rationale" is? I hope so

Well that would hold true if metal was Satanic from the beginning, but it wasn't, certain types of metal were co-opted by Satanic themes, but most of them never started out that way. And some considered "Satanic" like Viking Metal isn't Satanic it's just a romanticized celebration of Viking culture where whole songs are just re-tellings of Norse myths which isn't a bad thing unless you think we shouldn't read any Classical or Norse myths.

 

[GodsavemeifyoureallyExist]

metal music is wrong...it was conceived by Satan, you can garnish poo all you want...it remains poo!
oh by the way, God made clothes for man, and He gave instructions how to build His house too...

and this is coming from a man with a gray beard so let me guess next your gonna say that the super mario

bowser character was created by satan as well cause its evil like it was right? i say pooey

 

[Kooper]

Not praising god -_- Using heavy metal to do it, it goes against nature.

How so? I mean, like, I totally can understand why one would think heavy metal goes against praising God. But, I'm curious as to why it can't be? Is the sound of heavy metal more than the sound of a childrens choir? Is metal a clanging cymbal and sounding of brass? Does not the heart speak the abundance of the heart? I don't even know why I'm posting in here. xD

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