Speaking in tongues

shroom2 · Mar 12, 2012

That is incorrect. There is nothing in God's Word that says apostles and prophets were done away with, or that the manifestations have ceased. The gift ministries and manifestations of holy spirit will last until they are no longer needed, which will be when Christ returns.

Do you have a biblical reference for your belief?

That's true. The previous two paragraphs are not.

Red33 · Mar 12, 2012

These are conclusions that have already been documented, so take it or leave it, for it makes no difference to me personally. You have your persuasion and that it how you want to believe, but it has no bearing upon me or on those that believe about what God has given the church. Go dispute and argue with others, for I am no interested in what you think on this subject whatsoever. If that offends you in any way, you will have to work it out with God. Some things are said to declare a stand or stance on a given subject and others are open for discussion. This is not open for discussion with me because it has already been established and for me it is sound doctrine which can not be altered. The same with the finished work of Christ, the unlimited atonement, the return of Christ for the church etc. etc.

shroom2 · Mar 12, 2012

Red33 said:

These are conclusions that have already been documented, so take it or leave it, for it makes no difference to me personally. You have your persuasion and that it how you want to believe, but it has no bearing upon me or on those that believe about what God has given the church. Go dispute and argue with others, for I am no interested in what you think on this subject whatsoever. If that offends you in any way, you will have to work it out with God. Some things are said to declare a stand or stance on a given subject and others are open for discussion. This is not open for discussion with me because it has already been established and for me it is sound doctrine which can not be altered. The same with the finished work of Christ, the unlimited atonement, the return of Christ for the church etc. etc.

OK, Red. You are obviously free to believe as you wish.

dishchat · Mar 12, 2012

lydever91 said:

Speaking in tongues is referenced in chapter 13 of 1Corinthians by Paul telling about speaking in tongue himself.

Describing the tongue-speaking is talked about in chapter 14 by Paul.
Chapter 14 tells us that if one speaks in tongues, it should be translated so man can understand it and be truly thankful.

To better understand the Bible, you can use Strong's dictionary (e-sword is what I use for translation) and apprehend what some words mean (for instance, carcass represents satan)

1 Corinthians 14:1-19
1Co 14:1 Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.
1Co 14:2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
1Co 14:3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.
1Co 14:4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.
1Co 14:5 I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.
1Co 14:6 Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine?
1Co 14:7 And even things without life giving sound, whether pipe or harp, except they give a distinction in the sounds, how shall it be known what is piped or harped?
1Co 14:8 For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?
1Co 14:9 So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.
1Co 14:10 There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification.
1Co 14:11 Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me.
1Co 14:12 Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.
1Co 14:13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.
1Co 14:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
1Co 14:15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
1Co 14:16 Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest?
1Co 14:17 For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified.
1Co 14:18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:
1Co 14:19 Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.

Unknown tongue in Strong's = of uncertain affinity; by implication a language (specifically one naturally unacquired): tongue.

Speaking in tongue is not now what it used to be.

When they spoke this tongue, everybody understood it, the Scripture lists 18 different languages that understood it AT ONCE! Not like today's so-called tongues where only another possessed person can think that he understands it. The Pentecostal Day (Acts ch. 2) tongues were heard and understood by all languages:

Acts 2:4-11

4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.

6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.

7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?

8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?

9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,

10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,

11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. (KJV)

Bottom line: Talking in Tongues is not of the Holy Spirit, but is rather of evil spirits deceiving the speaker.

1 John 4:1

4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. KJV

2 Corinthians 11:13-15

13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming [disguising] themselves into the apostles of Christ.

14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed [disguised] as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. KJV

It was not the apostles who were talking in the gentiles own languages( they were talking with other tongues), It was the gentiles who heard them talking into there own languages means that they received the interpritation of what the apostles were talking.

dishchat · Mar 12, 2012

Excuse me for my bad english. So the apostle were not talking in the gentile own languages( they were talking in other tongues) It was the gentiles who were understanding them talking into there own languages means that they received the interpretation of tongues that the apostle were talking.

zech · Mar 12, 2012

krisbrian said:

heya kris the way i understand your question is you want our experiences? if you do wade through all this and read it please lemmi know if this was what you were asking for.

i grew up Anglican... landed up in covernant with a demon and in drugs and witchcraft basically because of perceived rejection and a piercing.

both my mother and my gran speak in tongues when praying and ive been around the gifts of the spirit since i was young so the theory of them was quite solid.

after i got saved God sent me to a small church and i got baptized one night in a pool in winter and they all said i should speak in tongues but i couldn't... i remember going home and seeking God on this gift cos deep down i knew it was important for me.

i read an old book "the gift of the Holy Spirit" probably written during some way back revival but all in all it put me at ease. because some smart individual (sarcastic) had told poor impressionable me that you get demonic tongues too. so i was scared of speaking by the wrong spirit.

eitherway i sat on my bed and prayed that prayer from matthew where Jesus says "when your son asks for bread will you give him a stone or for fish will you give him a scorpion.... you being evil know how to give good gifts to your children how much more wont your Heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask"
and i asked for the gift of tongues determining that even if it took the whole night id speak in tongues. after a long time and plenty of very silly noises (id ask then try...) a stuttering "tah tah tah..." came out and the only reason i knew it was it is because my spirit leaped within me!(Isaiah says it can be stuttering"with stammering lips and another tongue il speak peace to my people....) that night i fell asleep (i think it was that night) floating in visions and the presence of God, which was much better then the demons that would come visit all the time. (house blessing is a good thing)

i had also heard that there are different kinds of tongues one guy talked about having been given a warrior tongue (which i thought would be pretty neat)... and i read that Paul said you should pray in the spirit at all times and in my limited understanding at the time i did just that, quietly under my breath praying in tongues all the time so much so my girlfriend would get embarrassed going into shops with me.

through this God has let me experience interpretation (though i think it was demonic because since deliverance i haven't experienced it again)
ive recognized speaking in french and Chinese and an African language
ive spoken in a demonic tongue (not pleasant.... ive received deliverance from that by grace)
angelic tongues a normal prayer language ive sung songs to God in tongues and ive groaned in the spirit.

for myself i know God used this gift to allow me to experience many many things and as Paul says it edifys (encourages) the man (you) plenty! and brother id encourage you to seek God about it and ask Him to take you on a journey through it...

cos really its not about the gifts its about Jesus and all these gifts God uses to teach us about Himself.... remember the Holy Spirit declares nothing about Himself but declares Jesus!

peace bro
mark

sunshine_debbie · Mar 12, 2012

Red33 said:

Wow, I guess everyone is a little stirred up about this subject. While I can not claim to have any answers, I can claim victory in prayer by praying that you will learn to love and respect each other's differences. I think if I was given a choice between arguing a Christian belief, and doing a Christian work, well I think I would take the work every time. So, I will pray that you will learn to love each other as Christ has commanded us to do.

With Love

Debbie

unclefester · Mar 12, 2012

shroom2 said:

1 John 1:1-4 ...That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, concerning the Word of life -- the life was manifested, and we have seen, and bear witness, and declare to you that eternal life which was with the Father and was manifested to us -- that which we have seen and heard we declare to you, that you also may have fellowship with us; and truly our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ. And these things we write to you that your joy may be full.

Acts 10:39-42 ... And we are witnesses of all that he did both in the country of the Jews and in Jerusalem. They put him to death by hanging him on a tree, 40 but God raised him on the third day and made him to appear, 41 not to all the people but to us who had been chosen by God as witnesses, who ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead. 42 And he commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is the one appointed by God to be judge of the living and the dead.

1 Corinthians 15:7-8 ...After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles. And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

"Where in God's word do you get the idea that an apostle had to see the risen Christ?"

This is an easy question to answer. God deemed it so. And why ? In order to testify and bear witness to the truth that Christ had indeed risen from the dead. Ask yourself this question ... If not for seeing themselves the resurrected Christ, how else would they have known ? And what would have been the testimony of the twelve apostles chosen personally by Christ to spread and teach God's Word in the absence of such ? Think about that. It is these two qualities and more that make the twelve the true and only apostles of the living God. They were personally chosen by Christ. And they bore witness (saw with their own eyes) to His resurrection. Furthermore, Jesus said to Peter in Matthew 19:27-28 ..."Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore? And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel." THIS is what makes them what they were .... and still are.They were instructed to "teach them (the people) to observe all things whatsoever I (Christ) have commanded you"(Matthew 28:19-20) ...and "you shall be my witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth"(Acts 1:8) There's more,.... much more but I'm sure you get the picture. In the early days of the church, the apostles were more than just "a source of spiritual truth and knowledge". They were the ONLY source of revelation form God and their doctrine and writings were God's Word to us .... and still are .... and shall be forever more. If God's written Word to us is complete, there is no need for more and new "apostles and prophets". There are no new church foundations waiting to be laid. There is no new revelation waiting to be written. And all prophecy for us is already contained in God's divinely inspired Word. Some not yet fulfilled .... but already written. It goes without saying, of course, that we still need evangelists, pastors and teachers.

unclefester · Mar 12, 2012

Oh yeah .... almost forgot

..... the miracles and the signs and wonders performed by the apostles of old served to validate that their teachings were, in fact, from God. I would think this self-evident ... but nevertheless, it bears saying.

shroom2 · Mar 12, 2012

unclefester said:

1 John 1:1-4 ...That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, concerning the Word of life -- the life was manifested, and we have seen, and bear witness, and declare to you that eternal life which was with the Father and was manifested to us -- that which we have seen and heard we declare to you, that you also may have fellowship with us; and truly our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ. And these things we write to you that your joy may be full.

Acts 10:39-42 ... And we are witnesses of all that he did both in the country of the Jews and in Jerusalem. They put him to death by hanging him on a tree, 40 but God raised him on the third day and made him to appear, 41 not to all the people but to us who had been chosen by God as witnesses, who ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead. 42 And he commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is the one appointed by God to be judge of the living and the dead.

1 Corinthians 15:7-8 ...After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles. And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

"Where in God's word do you get the idea that an apostle had to see the risen Christ?"

This is an easy question to answer. God deemed it so. And why ? In order to testify and bear witness to the truth that Christ had indeed risen from the dead. Ask yourself this question ... If not for seeing themselves the resurrected Christ, how else would they have known ? And what would have been the testimony of the twelve apostles chosen personally by Christ to spread and teach God's Word in the absence of such ? Think about that. It is these two qualities and more that make the twelve the true and only apostles of the living God. They were personally chosen by Christ. And they bore witness (saw with their own eyes) to His resurrection. Furthermore, Jesus said to Peter in Matthew 19:27-28 ..."Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore? And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel." THIS is what makes them what they were .... and still are.They were instructed to "teach them (the people) to observe all things whatsoever I (Christ) have commanded you"(Matthew 28:19-20) ...and "you shall be my witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth"(Acts 1:8) There's more,.... much more but I'm sure you get the picture. In the early days of the church, the apostles were more than just "a source of spiritual truth and knowledge". They were the ONLY source of revelation form God and their doctrine and writings were God's Word to us .... and still are .... and shall be forever more. If God's written Word to us is complete, there is no need for more and new "apostles and prophets". There are no new church foundations waiting to be laid. There is no new revelation waiting to be written. And all prophecy for us is already contained in God's divinely inspired Word. Some not yet fulfilled .... but already written. It goes without saying, of course, that we still need evangelists, pastors and teachers.

Thanks for taking the time to write that.

We still need apostles and prophets, too. This is not in any way saying that a "new foundation" needs to be laid. You are right, there is one foundation, the Lord Jesus Christ. And one doctrine, that which is revealed in God's Word. If anyone comes along preaching a new doctrine, something not in, or something that contradicts that which was originally given to Paul and the others, it is false.

An apostle is someone who brings new light to his generation. It is the doctrine as revealed in God's word, not something new, but it is new to his generation.

A prophet is simply someone who speaks for God. No more no less.

Both of those gift ministries are as much needed today as the other three.

shroom2 · Mar 12, 2012

unclefester said:

Miracles, signs, and wonders (and operating the manifestations) also validate the bible today, and will continue to do so until Christ returns.

Abiding · Mar 12, 2012

shroom2 said:

I wont bother trying to comment on all this. But IF you have been given the manifestation of speaking in tongues
and by the way even back in the first century Paul makes it clear all dont. It still does not mean its by our will,
And certainly scripture does not teach "we will and then operate all the manifestations" as it has been said by you and another in this thread.

Abiding · Mar 12, 2012

peacefulbeliever said:

There were no caps. No thats what the verse says. The Holyspirit is who divides and distributes grace
and gifts. Do you honestly think man is capable of this? Man decides how he runs the church, who is healed,
when demons are cast out, when he chooses to have divine knowledge? thats a crazy thought.

shroom2 · Mar 12, 2012

Hello, Abiding,

Abiding said:

The context of 1 Cor 14 is in the church, in a group with other believers. In that situation not all speak in tongues, not all prophesy, etc.

1 Cor 14:15) What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also:

And Pauls exhortation for believers in Eph 6:
18) Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit,

If I said it like that, I apologize for my grammar.

Abiding · Mar 12, 2012

shroom2 said:

Hello, Abiding,

The context of 1 Cor 14 is in the church, in a group with other believers. In that situation not all speak in tongues, not all prophesy, etc.

Nope sorry, its easy to read into the scripture there. Although they were being given some instruction there(those then who were using the gift) dont forget what was just said in 12:27-31.

1 Cor 14:15) What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also:

And Pauls exhortation for believers in Eph 6:
18) Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit,

Here again is a misunderstanding, although i understand how this idea comes to you, people can pray in the Spirit and supplicate in the Spirit and worship in the Spirit without speaking
in tongues or any other manifestations.

If I said it like that, I apologize for my grammar.

Again, no matter what someone believes about the gifts or the manifestations, they are given and divided to each person severally as He the HolySpirit wills.

GreenNnice · Mar 13, 2012

shroom2 said:

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Tongues is not available to every Christian, shroom2.
Tongues, like all the other manifestation gifts, including the giving of the Holy Spirit , is a 'giving' from God (1cor. 12:7, what does word 'giving' say here)
, but the believer doesn't just get born again and, wham!, the Holy Spirit indwells. No..the new believer must receive the Holy Spirit into their body. God does not enter in without invite, is the 'polite' way to.put it.

And, Shroom2, it was wishful thinking, Paul wished (and that word 'wished' is word Paul used in bible) that everyone could speak in tongues , 1 Cor. 14 says, but he says that to 'prophesy' is better to do anyway so don't worry about tongues, prophesying does MUCH more good to edify believers.

You say , shroom2: I speak in tongues all the time.

Fabulous, IF it is the Lord's leading and you will know it true to do by Him, good ole conviction will hit you IF not good. BUT, and, it's a big 'but,' you speaking in tongues does NOT mean it is available for everyone ...

As I said earlier post, 'Christ makes speaking in tongues(or any of the many manifestation gifts the Spirit gives) available. Christ makes the manifestations (since you don't like 'manifestation gifts' ) available,' it has absolutely positively zip to do with us. I can want to speak in tongues but IF the Holy Spirit does not manifest me to speak in toungues, guess what?

Tongues will not be spoken by me , shroom2, or, you, or, anyone. The Spirit must be willing.

shroom2 · Mar 13, 2012

GreenNnice said:

Tongues is available to every Christian,GreenNnice. 1 Cor 12:7, 1 Cor 14:5

When a person acts on Romans 10:9, they receive holy spirit. Acts 2:38. Every single Christian has the gift of holy spirit.

It was not "wishful thinking". God wants all Christians to speak in tongues. He would rather that we prophesy in the church, in a group.

Right. Just because I do it is irrelevant. But the bible says it's available for every Christian. 1 Cor 12:7

The spirit IS willing. 1 Cor 14:5.

The rest is up to you.

Red33 · Mar 13, 2012

sunshine_debbie said:

Hi Debbie,

Tell me what you think of this post,

quote - When is comes to the gifts of the Spirit, God gives them severally as He wills (1Cor 12:11). According to (1Cor 4:1-10) He does not give all the gifts to every member just as the body is made up of many members and all the members are one body (Rom 12:3-8). He does give gifts to all men (Eph 4:8) and these good and perfect gifts come down from the Father (James 1:17).
In (Acts 2:1-8) we have the first demonstration of tongues in the NT and Luke recorded, as an eye witness, that the disciples were gathered in one place and in one accord and all of a sudden a sound from heaven, like a mighty rushing wind, filled the house where they were sitting. There appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire and it sat upon each of them (v/3). There was about (120) that were gathered (Acts 1:15).

Q. Without presuming anything about the gift of tongues, is this the manner in which you received the gift of tongues? Luke was a first hand witness of this happening. Did any witness this happen with you AND have you witnessed this happen to others as Luke did and testified? Luke is not a false witness of this and he continues.

In (v/4) they were filled with the Spirit (not because of the tongues but because of faith and the Holy Spirit that was in them), and began to speak with other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance. This is taking place in Jerusalem, during the second of three feasts of the Jews, seven days after the Passover. There are devout Jews from every nation under heaven (v/6). They came together and were confounded because they heard these Galileans speak in their own language, their own tongue wherein they were born (v/6-8). Then Peter gets up to speak and being pricked in their hearts asked Peter what they must do. Three thousand (3,000) believed upon the name of Jesus Christ and were baptized There were many signs and wonders performed by the apostles but not one of them who were saved spoke in tongues or prophesied. Then the greatest demonstration of the body of Christ took place in (v/ 42-47).

There is no mention of Gentiles here or in (Acts 19:1-7) when Paul came to Ephesus and found twelve disciples that were baptized with John's baptism (most likely Jews, because the scriptures never mention any Gentiles being baptized unto John's baptism). Paul laid hands on them, the Holy Spirit came upon them and they spoke with tongues and prophesied (v/6). The tongues spoken were not prophesy, they were separate. There was no one around to hear them (as in Acts 2 when the disciples spoke) and their was no interpretation nor anyone to confirm or bear witness of the truth of the prophesy except Paul (1Jn 5:6-8, John 1:7,8)?

How did it profit them or Paul? The only conclusion is that the tongue was given to these Jews as a sign and the prophesy as edification with no evidence, reference or understanding in the scriptures. This probably came from God but it was an isolated indecent. You see this happening again in (Acts 10) with Cornelius, a Gentile centurion of the Italian band, who had a good reputation with the the nation of the Jews, who sent two men for Peter because an angel had appeared to him. Some of the brethren from Joppa, who were Jews, went with Peter to meet with Cornelius. Upon their return Cornelius has invited his friends and relatives, who were Gentiles, to his house. Peter found a large gathering of people in Cornelius' house and told them that it was against Jewish law for a Jew to associate with a Gentile or to even visit him.

Peter then preached Christ and while he was preaching the word, the Holy Spirit came upon all that heard the message and the Jews that came with Peter were astonished that the Holy Spirit was also given and poured out unto the Gentiles, for they heard them speaking in tongues and praising God. They were all baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. These Gentiles spoke in a tongue that was not their own as an isolated indecent to reveal to Peter and the Jews that were with him that God, was no respecter of persons and that the Gentiles should not be considered unclean and common.

All three isolated incidents (Acts 2, 10, 19) that happened were in the presence of Jews who needed a sign (1Cor 1:22, Mk 8:12, Lk 11:29) because of being an unbeliever or being in unbelief about God's impartiality with others including the Gentiles. Of all the churches in Macedonia and Asia, you will not find a single church, other than Corinth, that were involved in the gift of tongues. The scriptures provide no evidence that those who spoke in tongues, in those (3) incidents, were exercise in that manner again, nor was it being taught in any of those churches as it was in Corinth. A reasonable conclusion as to why tongues was an issue at Corinth (located in Greece) could be that it was needed as a sign for those that were in unbelief in that part of the world. The Greeks did not require a sign like the Jews but they sought after wisdom (1Cor 1:22). Paul had to deal with both issues in that church.

My conclusion is this. God will give tongues only when it is needed as a sign for those in some form of unbelief. Believers have taken that gift and tried to make it into something that it was never intended for. When that happens Satan takes advantage of this and uses those that are weak in the faith and gets them involved with seeking that gift by convincing them it has something to do with being spiritual. So they substitute tongues for hearing the word of God and they never grow in grace and knowledge of Christ. -unquote

peacefulbeliever · Mar 13, 2012

Abiding said:

Yes, it is the Holy Spirit that energizes and distributes the gift of holy spirit but it is the man who operates that which the Holy Spirit has given.

Broern · Mar 13, 2012

Apostle Paul said, "He who speak in tongue speak not to men but to God. No one understand him/her but he/she speak mysteries." Apostle Paul also said he speak in tongue more than the believers in his time and instruct do not forbid speaking in tongue. Those who do not ask or do not have this gift have no problem with me. But I regret much because they lost the opportunity to speak to God directly as what Apostle Paul said. Ordinary known language prayer will do- but the power attach to praying in tongue particularly what we shall be needing specifically in the future in terms of our health, safety, financial needs, relationships, etc. things we can not foresee therefore we will miss in regular language prayer. Whereas when we pray in tongue, the Holy Spirit can guide us on what to pray for the things we can not foresee in the future.

Speaking in tongue is a gift of the Holy Spirit. A gift is to be received or else will not have it. First you have to understand about the gift before you will receive the gift. Anybody will be hesitant to receive a gift from a stranger more so without understanding the reason for the gift or what the gift is. Speaking in tongue must be done in proper manner or proper order if done in public and must have somebody to interpret. The interpretation must have a message to somebody which is to inform about specific items not just to repeat a verse in the Bible or personal interpretation from the Bible.

The best application of gift of speaking in tongue is by praying in tongue in private. The giberish or "Shambakaka Lumakali shambalili" type is shown by so called Christians only to boast about the Holy Spirit is in them. I believe one of the fruit or proof of the Holy Spirit is in them is by humility and not by boasting. Many books about the baptism of the Holy Spirit is available if you want to learn full knowledge about this subject.

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