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lil_christian

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Why do they have to change though?
*facepalm* Because if they believe in the Bible and the Lord is truly Lord over all of their life, they would realize that it's sin and that they need to change.
 

Nattmaran

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I do, since I'm a boyish girl. But talking to God helps to clear my mind. We can do this! :D
But boyish girl is not the same as being gay ;)

I am very boyish in some sense... and very girly in other things.
 

Nattmaran

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*facepalm* Because if they believe in the Bible and the Lord is truly Lord over all of their life, they would realize that it's sin and that they need to change.
*facepalm* Oh but there is so many ways to belive in the bible. And you know, many christian from Catholics to Protestants and Orthodox are completely fine with homosexuality.
 

lil_christian

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*facepalm* Oh but there is so many ways to belive in the bible. And you know, many christian from Catholics to Protestants and Orthodox are completely fine with homosexuality.
You just think there are many ways to believe in the Bible.

And just because they're okay with it DOES NOT MEAN that it's not sin.
 

Nattmaran

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Christian. Definition. Being bought by the blood of Jesus Christ. Following Him. Christians aren't perfect and we aren't going to say the greatest of things at times. That's just how it is.
So you think that homosexuality is a great thing but because of your religion you are against it?

I'm sorry, but, you're being just as judgmental as the opposing team. You cannot judge if they are truly saved or not. Maybe they aren't being Christ-like, but that doesn't mean they're not Christian.
True... and there are as many ways to be christian as their are stars in the sky. The important thing that you treat other people in a good way and pray to Jesus and let him embrace your soul.

And once again...that's OLD TESTAMENT. You aren't gonna get stoned for being gay today. And that WAS a law that God Himself established. If you have an issue with it, take it up with HIM. But you don't need to since it's not in use anymore.
Yeah,.. I will.
But you see... OT is mostly dusty myths. It is not until the NT the true path to God is starting to get clear. Many parts of the OT is old sumerian myths.

It IS a sin to be lesbian.
No... that is no sin.

BUT, having sex before marriage with the opposite gender is just as bad. And those who do both need to repent.
You should of course be careful whit whom you have sex and why... but it is still not a sin.
Jesus looks into your heart... not between your legs to see how many people you have had sex with and when. He is the savior of the soul not a gynecologist.
 

Nattmaran

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You just think there are many ways to believe in the Bible.

And just because they're okay with it DOES NOT MEAN that it's not sin.
Well... we will know when we die and meet Jesus :)
 

lil_christian

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So you think that homosexuality is a great thing but because of your religion you are against it?
that's not what I said and you know it. Homosexuality is sin and people need to repent of it...I'm not against it because of my FAITH. I'm against it because of my morals and because I believe ALL of the Bible. And the Bible saaayysss....

It's wrong.


True... and there are as many ways to be christian as their are stars in the sky.
Untrue.

Christians have morals. Standards to go by. We are supposed to be salt of the Earth. The light of the world. The city on a hill that can't be hidden. We can't go by the world's standards and still be all of those things.

Jesus is the only way to go.

Matthew 5:13
“You are the salt of the earth; but if the salt has become tasteless, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled under foot by men.

Yeah,.. I will.
But you see... OT is mostly dusty myths. It is not until the NT the true path to God is starting to get clear. Many parts of the OT is old sumerian myths.
Umm, 'scuse me? No way. If the OT wasn't true, JESUS WOULD NOT HAVE QUOTED IT. The prophecy of Jesus in Isaiah 53 would NOT have been fulfilled. Heck, ALL the prophecies that Jesus fulfilled in the OT. If they were just myths, then they would not have been fulfilled.


You should of course be careful whit whom you have sex and why... but it is still not a sin.
Jesus looks into your heart... not between your legs to see how many people you have had sex with and when. He is the savior of the soul not a gynecologist.
No you should wait until you're married. If you believe in the New Testament, and follow it, then I really wouldn't be needing to address this issue.

Colossians 3:5
Therefore consider the members of your earthly body as dead to immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and greed, which amounts to idolatry.

1 Thessalonians 4:3

For this is the will of God, your sanctification; that is, that you abstain from sexual immorality;
Galatians 5:19-21

New American Standard Bible (NASB)

19 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, 20 idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, 21 envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
 

Nattmaran

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I'm not against it because of my FAITH. I'm against it because of my morals and because I believe ALL of the Bible. And the Bible saaayysss.... It's wrong
So you are against it because of your faith then... You believe all of the bible and the bible ways its wrong (according to you).


Christians have morals. Standards to go by. We are supposed to be salt of the Earth. The light of the world. The city on a hill that can't be hidden. We can't go by the world's standards and still be all of those things.
I agree!
We christian should hold strongly on morality, fight injustice and oppression and help those who have less than we do. Give people meaning in their lives and show them the path to Jesus. But to love someone of the same gender is not sin and not wrong. Instead christian should try to fight injustices in the world... but for some reasons most Christians are capitalists and greedy. And does not act anywhere similar to Jesus.


Umm, 'scuse me? No way. If the OT wasn't true, JESUS WOULD NOT HAVE QUOTED IT. The prophecy of Jesus in Isaiah 53 would NOT have been fulfilled. Heck, ALL the prophecies that Jesus fulfilled in the OT. If they were just myths, then they would not have been fulfilled.
Well... the NT was written after the OT. So if you wanted to make the prophecies to come true you could write it that way.

Now I do not say that the OT does not hides some truths. But clearly it was interpreted and written wrong. Otherwise Jesus would not been born to preach the real way how God wanted it.

I mean, God tried hard to make people get it. Even killed all of mankind and most animals once. Finally he had to send Jesus to show the path. So clearly he was not happy of the way that the believers had written the OT.
 

lil_christian

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So you are against it because of your faith then... You believe all of the bible and the bible ways its wrong (according to you).
Nope...not according to me. according to GOD. The Holy spirit reveals to me the truth.




I agree!
We christian should hold strongly on morality, fight injustice and oppression and help those who have less than we do. Give people meaning in their lives and show them the path to Jesus. But to love someone of the same gender is not sin and not wrong. Instead christian should try to fight injustices in the world... but for some reasons most Christians are capitalists and greedy. And does not act anywhere similar to Jesus.
Then what are you doing on here? Why aren't you going out there and help fight injustice? Help feed the orphans? Help out the widows?

Not saying that I couldn't....but you probably see what I mean


Well... the NT was written after the OT. So if you wanted to make the prophecies to come true you could write it that way.
Now wait, I thought the NT was all true.

Now I do not say that the OT does not hides some truths. But clearly it was interpreted and written wrong. Otherwise Jesus would not been born to preach the real way how God wanted it.
I don't even understand this part...

I mean, God tried hard to make people get it. Even killed all of mankind and most animals once...
Now wait a minute, I thought the OT was just a bunch of dusty old myths.
 
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I've never seen a homosexual ACTUALLY become straight. It's impossible. It's not a choice.
 
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simplymeganne

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Also, where it says you shouldn't lie with a man as a woman... couldn't that be interpreted as you just shouldn't have sex them before marriage? that's how I'm interpreting it. :)
 

lil_christian

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Also, where it says you shouldn't lie with a man as a woman... couldn't that be interpreted as you just shouldn't have sex them before marriage? that's how I'm interpreting it. :)
Men shouldn't lie with men as they do with a woman...that's just what it says...

But one shouldn't have sex before marriage either
 
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Jesus is the God of love! He will accept you whatever sexuality you have and whatever people say. He looks at what is in your heart and if you are attracted to men or women (or men and women) it is the same to him.

But before you get inside a relationship be careful so that you know that your feelings are true and don't rush into anything. And also remeber to be openly gay/homosexual takes a lot of courage (depending on where you live) as you are often scorned (and many times the ones that scorn you are christians that just don't know jesus and have forgotten that they should not judge).

So... it is nothing wrong with you. And whatever happens Jesus will love you as he loves all people that spreads love and goodness in the world!

Take care
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You will always have ur opinion. If u are a christian you opinion isnt valid if it isnt based on the Bible. Can u give any scripture? You are confusing a lil girl who is already struggling. Jesus Said he will accept you in any condition. But if u accept him u are covered by his blood and u should no longer walk the path of sin. In the Bible its clearly written that homosexuality is a sin PERIOD! I can quote u verses. I used to be like you. AN Open minded christian. IM NOT GOING TO JUDGE ANYONE I said. But thats just stupid. You would become lukewarm. Jesus said he would spit people like that out of his mouth! Jesus loves us all true. But HE HATES THE SINS! FOR CRYING OUT LOUD HE ALREADY SUFFERED FOR IT!!!

God does not create a person with homosexual desires. The Bible tells us that people become homosexuals because of sin (Romans 1:24-27) and ultimately because of their own choice. A person may be born with a greater susceptibility to homosexuality, just as some people are born with a tendency to violence and other sins. That does not excuse the person’s choosing to sin by giving in to sinful desires. If a person is born with a greater susceptibility to anger/rage, does that make it right for him to give into those desires? Of course not! The same is true with homosexuality.
 

Nattmaran

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You will always have ur opinion. If u are a christian you opinion isnt valid if it isnt based on the Bible. Can u give any scripture? You are confusing a lil girl who is already struggling.
It is funny that you say that I am confused little girl in this and that you try to diminish me that way.

There are lots of Christians that share my faith. Protestant, Catholics and lots more... I guess there are several hundred millions of us... so to say that I am just a little girl is a bit,.. silly.

Jesus Said he will accept you in any condition. But if u accept him u are covered by his blood and u should no longer walk the path of sin. In the Bible its clearly written that homosexuality is a sin PERIOD!
Yes... but you will have to take to account the period when the bible was written PERIOD.


I can quote u verses.
I bet you can.


I used to be like you. AN Open minded christian. IM NOT GOING TO JUDGE ANYONE I said. But thats just stupid. You would become lukewarm. Jesus said he would spit people like that out of his mouth! Jesus loves us all true. But HE HATES THE SINS! FOR CRYING OUT LOUD HE ALREADY SUFFERED FOR IT!!!
Stop yelling... please... I know he suffered for our sins. But he does not judge or hate... and he is the God of love. And he is fine with homosexuality. As long as the person have a good heart.
God does not create a person with homosexual desires. The Bible tells us that people become homosexuals because of sin (Romans 1:24-27) and ultimately because of their own choice. A person may be born with a greater susceptibility to homosexuality, just as some people are born with a tendency to violence and other sins. That does not excuse the person’s choosing to sin by giving in to sinful desires.
The people that wrote that thought he earth was flat and was in essence talibans when it came to their cultural level. Their times have stained the bible.

If a person is born with a greater susceptibility to anger/rage, does that make it right for him to give into those desires? Of course not! The same is true with homosexuality.
So... when does the child rape comment comes? It is always around the corner when you talk about homosexuality in this way. It has only been one of those today.

And to answer you - of course not! It is a big difference. Homosexuality is something you do with a partner you love. It is all consensual. Abuse, murder and all the other things is a vile, vile thing you do against an innocent person.
 
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I've never seen a homosexual ACTUALLY become straight. It's impossible. It's not a choice.
YOUR SOO WRONG! LOL and how old are u?!?! 17?!?! well Im only 4 years older than you I have seen people who became straight. to back up my statement here is what the Bible has to say :
Philippians 4:13

13 I can do all things through him who strengthens me.
 

Nattmaran

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Then what are you doing on here? Why aren't you going out there and help fight injustice? Help feed the orphans? Help out the widows?
I am doing the best I can. I am involved in a female rights youth organization as well as a sexual education organization (RFSU) where we inform girls and boys about sex so that all they know is not what they learn from porn.

This is a place where I can share my christian side...


Now wait, I thought the NT was all true.

Now wait a minute, I thought the OT was just a bunch of dusty old myths.
To you all is absolutes. Either it is 100% or 0%. It can't ever be 50% or 80%
 

SkinnyGuy

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*facepalm* Because if they believe in the Bible and the Lord is truly Lord over all of their life, they would realize that it's sin and that they need to change.
Well if they believe in the bible and god then wouldn't that also mean no wearing mixed fiber clothes, planting different crops next to each other, or touching a football? And if they're a woman that means no teaching positions because of the possibility of men being in the class, correct?
 
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It is funny that you say that I am confused little girl in this and that you try to diminish me that way.



There are lots of Christians that share my faith. Protestant, Catholics and lots more... I guess there are several hundred millions of us... so to say that I am just a little girl is a bit,.. silly.






Yes... but you will have to take to account the period when the bible was written PERIOD.





I bet you can.




Stop yelling... please... I know he suffered for our sins. But he does not judge or hate... and he is the God of love. And he is fine with homosexuality. As long as the person have a good heart.


The people that wrote that thought he earth was flat and was in essence talibans when it came to their cultural level. Their times have stained the bible.



So... when does the child rape comment comes? It is always around the corner when you talk about homosexuality in this way. It has only been one of those today.

And to answer you - of course not! It is a big difference. Homosexuality is something you do with a partner you love. It is all consensual. Abuse, murder and all the other things is a vile, vile thing you do against an innocent person.
Read what I wrote carefully. I never called u a lil confused girl. :) I called that to the girl who originally posted the thread but I bet you are just a silly lil girl. Just because u belong to a group doesnt make you right. Nor the people who follows the wrong belief. so you are saying The word of God doesnt remain true for eternity? lol What a bunch of belonies. QUOTE me one verse that Jesus said from the new testament ( since you think the old testament is a myth) that homosexuality is ok? Jesus said if you love me YOU WILL OBEY MY WORD. :) which you clearly not doing. The problem is you are not answering any of our questions with valid reasoning or from the BIble. I dont give a horse hair of what you think. Because at the end of the day you are not God. You can be Wrong. God's word is never wrong. Earth is flat. Wonder how u got that idea. Quote me those verses please? if u cant then go take a nap :) But if u say irrelevant things than there is no point of this convo. Homosexuality is something you do with a partner you love. Yeah 1st Corinthians 1:13 your body is the temple of the holy spirit. So if homosexuality is a sin it will defo defile the temple, wont it?
 

lil_christian

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Well if they believe in the bible and god then wouldn't that also mean no wearing mixed fiber clothes, planting different crops next to each other, or touching a football? And if they're a woman that means no teaching positions because of the possibility of men being in the class, correct?
If that's your argument then it's very weak.