How can I feel disconnected even though I am a strong believer?

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My soul feels twisted and drained, I pray and it seem to matter little. I feel I have spent my entire childhood into my adulthood praying, and feel I have just enough to keep living to the next day. I follow the ten commandments, I talk about God and spread his word and love to others, I teach my family and live by his word, and yet I watch others blossom worldly whom may or may not be doing the same.
I feel I have wanted stability, love, compassion, humility, enthusiasim, empathy, and sympathy for as long as I can remember. I feel I believe in God passionately, yet I feel doubting because I have longed for so long. I am tired and feel I am getting weak for the first time. I have faught all of my life to do right by God. I am not saying that I am worth more than what God has provided, but I am struggling with why have I had so much bad and hardship, am I not worth more?

Is this a typical feeling for all or is this foreign to all?
 
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rainacorn

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I only feel this way when I'm being dishonest about my commitment.

When I'm not really close with the Lord (despite my lip service), I feel anxious and uneasy. I see bad things all around me. and I pray desperately for it all to go away so I can feel better and things will be better.

God gives me a way out, but there are times when I refuse to see it because it's not what I was expecting or it's not what I want.

For me, like 90% of the time, the solution is getting rid of something that is contributing to the negativity. Television, internet, certain friends, games, even lines of thought and topics of conversation etc... God tells me to take a break or give it up and I pretend I can't hear Him. I don't want to give anything up, I only want Him to add blessings.

He doesn't work that way, at least not in my life. Praying is a wonderful practice, but we're not always ready for a response unless it's exactly what we want it to be.
 
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My soul feels twisted and drained, I pray and it seem to matter little. I feel I have spent my entire childhood into my adulthood praying, and feel I have just enough to keep living to the next day. I follow the ten commandments, I talk about God and spread his word and love to others, I teach my family and live by his word, and yet I watch others blossom worldly whom may or may not be doing the same.
I feel I have wanted stability, love, compassion, humility, enthusiasim, empathy, and sympathy for as long as I can remember. I feel I believe in God passionately, yet I feel doubting because I have longed for so long. I am tired and feel I am getting weak for the first time. I have faught all of my life to do right by God. I am not saying that I am worth more than what God has provided, but I am struggling with why have I had so much bad and hardship, am I not worth more?

Is this a typical feeling for all or is this foreign to all?
Is it possible that God is trying to teach you something that you have not recieved yet. I find that when we seem to be going through the same struggle over and over again, maybe, just maybe we have not learned the lesson that God wants to teach us.
Often times when christians experience financial hardship(I don't know if this is the type your experiencing) there are usually some self control issues as well. How well are you working with what God HAS given you.
Isaiah 40:31 "They that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength, they shall mount up with wings like eagles.."
Be strengthened today.
 
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Dear answers,

If two of us constitute a "group" , it is definitely not foreign to all believers. I struggle with doubt all the time. While it may not be as strong as your feelings, I often find myself wishing that I felt God's love more. As a matter of fact, I pray almost every day that God will "transfer what I know in my head to what I feel in my heart, so that I can truly experience (His) love through Jesus Christ...".

As powerful a believer as Dr. Charles Stanley of In Touch Ministries had problems with this issue. Like him, I have things in my past that make it hard to really feel love. I am trying to work through those issues, but it doesn't come easily.

I would suggest that you examine your own past. Has there been anything that would make it difficult for you to feel love? My issue is that my father died when I was five years old and my mother wasn't very loving. I therefore never learned what it really was to feel love.

God is good. "... He will never leave you or foresake you." (Deuteronomy 31:6 & 8) You are His precious child. Keep that uppermost in your mind, and heart, and keep trying. I am confident that God will find a way.

God bless you.
 
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Yes, answers, i can relate as well. I have struggled with that for a long time actually. I wish i had something to share after all this time, but afraid i'm somewhat stuck in this area.
 

Lucy68

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My soul feels twisted and drained, I pray and it seem to matter little. I feel I have spent my entire childhood into my adulthood praying, and feel I have just enough to keep living to the next day. I follow the ten commandments, I talk about God and spread his word and love to others, I teach my family and live by his word, and yet I watch others blossom worldly whom may or may not be doing the same.
I feel I have wanted stability, love, compassion, humility, enthusiasim, empathy, and sympathy for as long as I can remember. I feel I believe in God passionately, yet I feel doubting because I have longed for so long. I am tired and feel I am getting weak for the first time. I have faught all of my life to do right by God. I am not saying that I am worth more than what God has provided, but I am struggling with why have I had so much bad and hardship, am I not worth more?

Is this a typical feeling for all or is this foreign to all?

I think it's safe to say that we all struggle with this :) It is the common fallen-mankind condition and something we have to live with all of our lives.

But look at some of the words you're using :

I teach my family and live by his word, and yet I watch others blossom worldly whom may or may not be doing the same.

I feel I believe in God passionately, yet I feel doubting because I have longed for so long.


I have faught all of my life to do right by God

I am not saying that I am worth more than what God has provided, but I am struggling with why have I had so much bad and hardship, am I not worth more?

Satan continues to whisper in our ears, just as he did to Adam and Eve "He's not really a good God...He's keeping something from you....do you REALLY deserve this type of treatment (especially after all you've done for Him)....He isn't REALLY a loving God, is He?"


Don't fall for this trick! Our pride is EASILY puffed up and it can easily lead to placing ourselves above God or thinking that He owes us something more. I should know, I do it all the time :)

It may look like 'worldly' people are getting ahead...but are they really? Are they building up treasures in Heaven or on earth?

Envy can be deadly to the soul.

I was just reading Joyce Meyers book "Battlefield of the Mind"....she stresses the teaching be thankful for EVERYTHING and gives thanks in all situations. When you're in these low spots, first be thankful for them; then ask God to show you what you need to look at. Slow down, sit, think, meditate on God's Word.

These valleys are times to LEARN. Be thankful for them 'milk them for all they're worth' :)

 
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I so agree with you, Lucy68. I read Joyce Meyers Battlefield of the Mind as well, twice in fact (then I gave the copy to the woman behind the counter at Burger King who said she was having a bad day ). I struggle with not "feeling " God's love. I understand and know that I know that I know (as Joyce says) He loves me unconditionally, but I rarely FEEL it. I pray daily but often feel my prayers are not what they should be. I get tongue tied, repeat too much, don't feel I have the right words and that they sound forced, even though I mean what I'm saying.
 

Lucy68

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I so agree with you, Lucy68. I read Joyce Meyers Battlefield of the Mind as well, twice in fact (then I gave the copy to the woman behind the counter at Burger King who said she was having a bad day ). I struggle with not "feeling " God's love. I understand and know that I know that I know (as Joyce says) He loves me unconditionally, but I rarely FEEL it. I pray daily but often feel my prayers are not what they should be. I get tongue tied, repeat too much, don't feel I have the right words and that they sound forced, even though I mean what I'm saying.
Isn't that a great book...she just hits the nail on the head repeatedly!

I know what you mean about 'the right words sounding forced'. Something just doesn't seem right, or I'm all in a muddle and just have a general sense of confusion.

I think that the Lord will step away from us to get us to follow Him. Like when your child is learning to walk, you keep backing up so he will move forward.

For me, this is a good time to practice being 'a lump of clay'. It's hard to empty our minds of everything and just listen but I do think this is possible. I've managed to do it a few times and when I do ...WOW. What insights He gives me. Some unpleasant insights...but I told Him that's OK. Fire away.

It's hard to distinguish sometimes between His voice and me just talking to myself. But I'm learning the difference, slowly.

I asked Him to pluck something out of me that I really didn't like and I got the clear message "it would destroy you for Me to remove that". So I have to learn to live with it...and why not? Like Paul's 'thorn' these are the things that can improve us if we handle it right.


It's comforting to know that we don't always have to have the right words. The Holy Spirit knows the words already if our hearts are in the right place :)

Thank you so much for your response! It helps me to know that I'm not the only one that struggles this way!


I will pray for you that you feel Him moving in your life and in your thoughts :)
 
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chrisBur

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Relax & let Jesus love you, recieve righteousness by faith not works
 
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Seeking God's will for me and my family. I feel like my heart longs for something magnificent, my mind is wired to be aware of things most overlook. My head is always thinking of ways to improve in the eyes of our Lord. I feel a stong pull to go up, but always feel held back.
 

PopClick

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Something did jump out at me about your post, and your profile, too. You mention God a lot, but not Jesus... and your profile says you have been saved your entire life. Just to be clear, have you asked Jesus to come into your heart?

And I have also heard a lot of people say that asking God to fill them with the Holy Spirit made them feel "complete".
 
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Praise God that you have a heart that wants to please Him and I know He sees that with all gladness. Sounds like you are suffering from your 'hope being deferred' mentioned in Proverbs 13:12 "Hope deferred makes the heart sick, But when the desire comes, it is a tree of life."

One thing I've learned after being a christian (born again) for 18 years is the way we 'feel' about things most of the time does not line up His word. We are called to live by faith and not by sight.... with a 'hope and desire' of what's to come (our heavenly home). God's word says to seek Him first and all these things shall be added.... If He is our first desire which fulfills every need, then everything else will fall into place. You will have a 'contentment' in all things, no matter what situation... good or bad...
Philippians 4:11-13

11 Not that I speak in regard to need, for I have learned in whatever state I am, to be content: 12 I know how to be abased, and I know how to abound. Everywhere and in all things I have learned both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need. 13 I can do all things through Christ[a] who strengthens me.



This happens when you are grounded and rooted in love;

Eph 3
14 For this reason I bow my knees to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,[c] 15 from whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, 16 that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with might through His Spirit in the inner man, 17 that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; that you, being rooted and grounded in love, 18 may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the width and length and depth and height— 19 to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge; that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.
20 Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us, 21 to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus to all generations, forever and ever. Amen.

The Holy Spirit was promised to us by Jesus to empower and enable us to live the abundant life He promises. Ask God to fill you with His spirit.

Ephesians 5:

17 Therefore do not be unwise, but understand what the will of the Lord is. 18 And do not be drunk with wine, in which is dissipation; but be filled with the Spirit, 19 speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord,


I was saved into quite a legalistic church where I felt I needed to 'do the Lord's work' to be accepted by Him... but never felt it was enough really. When you mentioned following the 10 commandments.... firstly those laws were given to the Jews to "reveal" their sinful state and not us gentiles . Paul goes on and on in the NT to the 'converted' Jews about not imposing Jewish law upon gentiles and basically saying that it is only by our faith in Jesus Christ that we can be saved.

Galatians 2:
16 knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.

No one is able to follow the law perfectly (otherwise we would be righteous by our own merit and not through Jesus Christ);
James 2:10 (King James Version)
10For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

That was the whole point of Jesus dying on the cross, knowing that by our own 'works' we cannot be saved and our works are like filthy rags before Him (Isaiah 64:6). Jesus 'fulfilled' the law and gave a greater one... to Love Him (desire) with all of your heart, mind and strength and your neighbor as yourself.

I won't go into too greater detail about this but I thought it was very important...because the bible says the letter (law) kills but the spirit gives life. That's why you will not 'experience' the abundance of life... because this mentality 'kills' your spirit which gives you 'life'.

2 Corinthians 3:6
who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

So... in saying all of this, every time I feel confused and doubtful... I ask God for His wisdom and direction, which is what the bible says to do. It truly has brought me to greater heights in my walk with God and a strengthening of my faith that I never would have thought possible years ago. I truly believe that is WHY you have those times... because God wants you to 'grow' in your faith and character (we are called to be transformed into the likeness of Jesus).

Isaiah 33:6
Wisdom and knowledge will be the stability of your times, And the strength of salvation; The fear of the LORD is His treasure.

I personally used to be a rollercoaster christian, not knowing if God really loved me because I didn't feel His love tangeably, struggling with doubt and fear often. Of course it takes time to grow in these areas, but one of the biggest problems is the foundation you have built upon. If you are not experiencing the 'abundant' life Jesus promised in John 10:10 then its definitely time to ask for God's wisdom in His word which will give you a deeper revelation of God and correct any wrong theology you may have.

Proverbs says we shall seek this above all else. It also says that it promises to give you happiness (Proverbs 3:13
Happy is the man who finds wisdom, And the man who gains understanding),

The grace of God is SUFFICIENT for us in all things (2Cor 12:9). A heart of thankfulness for what Jesus has done, knowing that nothing you could ever DO can make you right with God but Jesus paid the price in FULL for your sins, should be the center of your joy and the reason why you live in HOPE and abundance (strengthen in the inner man as it said above in Eph). You will learn to really trust that He is sovereign and He has the best for you, as a loving Father.... (Luke 11:11). It's 'trusting' His absolute will for your life which is the hardest part... but if you are 'perfected' in His love... fear and doubt will be driven out

1 John 4:18
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love.


Here are some more scriptures that have helped me 'grow' and 'understand' God through these times. I pray they strengthen and encourage you... I believe they will as God's word is powerful and sharper than a 2 edged sword... and the greatest source of encouragement you will ever find.

Doing everything in God's strength and not your own;
Matthew 11:

28Then Jesus said, “Come to me, all of you who are weary and carry heavy burdens, and I will give you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you. Let me teach you, because I am humble and gentle at heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30For my yoke is easy to bear, and the burden I give you is light.”


An 'opportunity' to grow deeper in God
James 1:
2Dear brothers and sisters,a when troubles come your way, consider it an opportunity for great joy. 3For you know that when your faith is tested, your endurance has a chance to grow. 4So let it grow, for when your endurance is fully developed, you will be perfect and complete, needing nothing.
5If you need wisdom, ask our generous God, and he will give it to you. He will not rebuke you for asking. 6But when you ask him, be sure that your faith is in God alone. Do not waver, for a person with divided loyalty is as unsettled as a wave of the sea that is blown and tossed by the wind. 7Such people should not expect to receive anything from the Lord. 8Their loyalty is divided between God and the world, and they are unstable in everything they do.




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WordGaurdian

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Seeking God's will for me and my family. I feel like my heart longs for something magnificent, my mind is wired to be aware of things most overlook. My head is always thinking of ways to improve in the eyes of our Lord. I feel a stong pull to go up, but always feel held back.

God gives you what you seek. But also what you need.

To explain... if you had a child... and he asked you for the very first time for a bicycle or a scateboard, being experienced in life... you know he is going to fall, and probably more than one. So in essence giving him the bicycle, you also give to him the pain that goes with it knowingly.

The more difficult the question, the greater the sacrifices and pain. Example : If your child has a sport talent, and he which to go to nationals. You know what to do. He doesn't, but you being experienced in life have a fair idea that it will take everything that your child can consider a childhood and he would be forced to train, eat and socialise according to a very strict schedule, hardly ever having real friends, etc. You can give it to your child or not...

You seek to do God's will?

That means you accept that He is going to train you, mold you, break you, mold you again until you are that which is His will for you. Samuel had to grow up away from his parents...Moses was exiled for 40 years from the people he loved. Christ said the servant cannot be greater than the master. So know sweating blood scientists has proven only happens during great stress. We speculate but cannot fathom how hard the hardship was on Him, coming from a heavenly bed to sleeping on rocks.

It is sometimes wonderful and amazing when you see someone getting healed when you prayed, but it can be also sad the things you may have to face.

My dad and mom, after several years of marriage... a divorce and then getting back together with my father, after two bankruptcies and a list of things walks around todat with joy in her heart for doing the will of God and after all this my mom told me love is not glorious or a nice feeling... it is hard work.

Even more so is doing the will of God. It has it's amazing moments...but it is also at times sticking to your beliefs and fighting to keep inside the will of God, not for reward or treasure but because you love Him.
 
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Well God and Jesus are one. If I speak to Jesus I am speaking to God, vice versa. If I speak of one, I am not in anyway excluding the other, they are one. I was baptized at birth and grew up going to church, taking CCD, attending bible study, worship, service/mass, praying and reading the bible, (this is why I said my whole life).
I have asked Jesus/God to come into my heart among other specifics, many times. I pray salvation prayers every sunday with my pastor, because I know I will never be complete in my walk with God. I will never know enough and I will never assume I do.

The reason for my post is, I feel weak right now and this is foreign to me, I am not saying that I need wordly things, I just feel tired. I am working hard to be as close to jesus as I can, I cannot stand when I fail, but know it is with reason. I accept God tearing me down and rebuilding me, I am weak right now, and needed a boost. I struggle with feeling not worthy of much, and I am afraid to ask for more, because I know I have to be content.
I was wondering if this is common to feel unworthy and fearful of being disobient, and feeling weak in your walk.
Jesus is my savior and I do not in anyway dismiss that. I speak of them as one.
 

PopClick

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Okay, just checking. I have met people that considered themselves saved Christians simply because they went to church. I'm glad that's not your case. :)
 

Jilly81

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Answers, I'll be honest with you. You need to BEG Jesus to let you truly fall in love with Him. You seem to running around all the time, trying to please God with your soccer ministry and other things, but I haven't seen anything in this thread that makes me think that you really know how much you are loved by Him, and loved by His Son Jesus. Jesus took your place on the cross, Dee. He took all that pain and anguish for you. Thank Him for doing that for you, and when you "talk about God and spread His word to others", let it be about what Jesus did on the cross for you. Ask to be filled with the power of the Holy Spirit like PopClick recommended; it often makes an enormous difference, and Jesus mentioned doing so in Luke 11:13.
 
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I do pray to be filled with the holy spirit multiple times in a day. I pray before I speak, eat, walk, drive, react, sleep, write, and I pray for almost every person that crosses my path ( I believe God has me notice certain people because they need to be prayed for). I thank Jesus for giving his life for me everday. I do pray for my every action to be in Jesus' best interest.
I understand, Jesus died for me, I do understand I should feel how much he loves me, and usually that is the case, but recently I feel tired and feel as though something is blocking me from feeling that. This was the reason I reached out, like I said before this is foreign to me and I was wondering if anyone relates. I want to feel his love for me again, this is why I am trying to figure out what is going on with me. Thank you anyways.
 

PopClick

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I'll pray for you today, that the obstacle (whatever it is) will be removed, in Jesus' name.
 

Lucy68

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Well God and Jesus are one. If I speak to Jesus I am speaking to God, vice versa. If I speak of one, I am not in anyway excluding the other, they are one. I was baptized at birth and grew up going to church, taking CCD, attending bible study, worship, service/mass, praying and reading the bible, (this is why I said my whole life).
I have asked Jesus/God to come into my heart among other specifics, many times. I pray salvation prayers every sunday with my pastor, because I know I will never be complete in my walk with God. I will never know enough and I will never assume I do.

The reason for my post is, I feel weak right now and this is foreign to me, I am not saying that I need wordly things, I just feel tired. I am working hard to be as close to jesus as I can, I cannot stand when I fail, but know it is with reason. I accept God tearing me down and rebuilding me, I am weak right now, and needed a boost. I struggle with feeling not worthy of much, and I am afraid to ask for more, because I know I have to be content.
I was wondering if this is common to feel unworthy and fearful of being disobient, and feeling weak in your walk.
Jesus is my savior and I do not in anyway dismiss that. I speak of them as one.

There is a tension between two issues of salvation that is hard for us as humans to understand and live with. That is that salvation is not earned AND a faith without works is dead. We tend to swing toward opposite ends of the spectrum on this....I think history shows that.

It is hard to rest in the knowledge that God loves us no matter what we do; and at the same time, strive to eliminate as much sin out of our lives as possible. We will never be 'perfect' on this side of heaven, but as saved sinners, we're supposed to desire that perfection and strive for it anyway . A lot of that means we remain in close relationship with the Holy Spirit and sometimes that means peacefully waiting for Him.

Do you think you're trying too hard to earn God's approval? If so, Satan loves to encourage this kind of thinking. You are worthy of God's love...you're His creation, He loves you very much :)

What 'more' do desire to ask of God? Are there temptations that you are currently struggling with? Maybe trying to pinpoint the problem would be of help ?