Trying to sneak extreme right wing politics into the Christian faith

[peterT]

Trying to sneak extreme right wing politics into the Christian faith through your attempt to interpret prophecies in the bible, nice try but we are not going to be deceived.

If you say that Islam is the beast you would probably throw all Muslims out of the country and say it is for our own security, or would the real reason be so you can continue to keep getting yours, and maybe even more as there’s not enough for us and them. Exodus 20:17 "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house

Extreme right-wing politics belongs to the unbelievers, not in the Christian faith

 

[JimJimmers]

I have never heard of one person say we should throw all Muslims out of the country. So I really don't know what your concern is.

 

[1Christianwarrior316]

Trying to sneak extreme right wing politics into the Christian faith through your attempt to interpret prophecies in the bible, nice try but we are not going to be deceived.

Right wing politics? So little you know about the message that is being taught. You want to throw us under that bus because you know nothing about the message and classify us with a bunch of unbelievers that have not the love of Christ in them. I do not hold their view and have never posted any comment that is hateful toward the muslim people. Why is it you lash out at those of us who believe Islam is the beast?
Since you reject the Bible’s definition of what antichrist is and lean on man’s definition of what antichrist is you will never see the beast.
Scripture tells us our battle is not of the flesh but a spiritual battle, Eph 6:12. I recognize the spirit of antichrist by the definition given us by the Word of God and not by the precepts of man. I recognize that out of all the antichrists in the world today the only one that acts like a beast and wants everyone to submit to it, is Islam.

If you say that Islam is the beast you would probably throw all Muslims out of the country and say it is for our own security, or would the real reason be so you can continue to keep getting yours, and maybe even more as there’s not enough for us and them

Exodus 20:17 "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house

Extreme right-wing politics belongs to the unbelievers, not in the Christian faith

Again another attempt by you to throw us under the bus by classifying us with right wing politics.
Your unchristian comments to insinuate what we will do is now on the verge of judging what’s in a man heart. And we all know there is only one who can judge what’s in a mans’ heart. For if you knew what was in my heart, might actually surprise you.
I believe we are to be a witness to these lost souls and preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ to them so the Light of Love might shine in their dark world of submission to the beast. Their belief does not come by free will but by submission which is taught to them at a very young age. Many people that have witnessed to them have found that when you witness to them to the truth they shut down, being closed minded. (just like you peterT)
But it has been found to be more effective to witness to them when one can show them the errors in their quran which seems to have them questioning their own faith. And when they question their own faith then it becomes easier to witness to them about God’s love for them through Jesus Christ.

You have accuse me of,
Holding the doctrine of antichrist because I believe Islam is the beast.
Being a minister of Satan because I believe Islam is the beast.
Displacement of scripture.
Insinuated I am a fool.
Being tricked by Satan.
A racist.
An extreme political right winger.
And you will probably call me something else after I post this.
You know brother peterT I love you and forgive you and I pray the Lord will guide you each step of your life. But what concerns me brother is do you have the Love of Christ in your heart? Are you really a true circumcised of the heart Christian? For I believe if the Love of Christ is within you your comments would be with grace, seasoned with salt, that you would know how to answer every man. Col 4:6

In Christ, 1Christianwarrior316
　
　
　

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[Laodicea]

Peter T. You need to read the Bible for the text says there are many antichrists, the papacy do not follow the commandments so are against Christ an antichrist. Islam are an antichrist for their teachings. Many antichrists

 

[doulos]

Trying to sneak extreme right wing politics into the Christian faith through your attempt to interpret prophecies in the bible, nice try but we are not going to be deceived.

If you fail to recognize that Islam is the beast of Rev13:2 you have already been deceived. The beast is staring you in the eye ready to take your head and yet you fail to recognize it. How sad I’ll keep you in my prayers!

If you say that Islam is the beast you would probably throw all Muslims out of the country and say it is for our own security, or would the real reason be so you can continue to keep getting yours, and maybe even more as there’s not enough for us and them

. Exodus 20:17 "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house

Once again your blatantly false accusation is noted. No one is coveting their neighbors house. What we are doing is exposing a false religion started by THE false prophet that requires all who follow Muhammad to be antichrists and wage jihad on all who refuse to submit to the antichrist belief system called Islam.. It is not the individual that has been deceived into following Muhammad that we speak out against but the false religion known as Islam. I am sorry that you are intellectually incapable of comprehending this and choose to resort to false and malicious attacks as a result I’ll keep you in my prayers!
Exo 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

Extreme right-wing politics belongs to the unbelievers, not in the Christian faith

It’s not about politics but standing against a religion that requires all who follow it to deny that God has a Son, which according to scripture makes those who follow THE false prophet Muhammad antichrists.

 

[doulos]

the papacy do not follow the commandments so are against Christ an antichrist. Islam are an antichrist for their teachings. Many antichrists

1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.


I must simply ask which of the above verses you believe, the Roman Church transgresses? Oh that’s right you must rely on man made doctrines that says against or instead of, not Scripture in order to condemn the Catholics. Are you sure you aren’t doing exactly as Christ warned against in Mark7:13?

 

[loveme1]

The Ten Commandments rebuke the catholic church, anyone ever notice how islam never got past rome..................

 

[Laodicea]

Do you think that Islam is the only antichrist? The Bible says antichrists, plural.

 

[loveme1]

Certainly not islam is the visible bad guy for the real power to overcome and deceive people.

 

[doulos]

Do you think that Islam is the only antichrist? The Bible says antichrists, plural.

1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.


There are many who meet the Scriptural criteria of antichrists, Atheists, Muslims etc… but yet you cannot show us which of the above verses Catholics transgress. Your condemnation is based on man made doctrines that say against or instead of, even though not one verse says that. Aren’t we better served basing our beliefs on the Scriptural definition instead of man’s? By using man’s definition instead of the scriptural definitions don’t we risk doing exactly what Christ warned against in Mark7:13?

 

[loveme1]

1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.


There are many who meet the Scriptural criteria of antichrists, Atheists, Muslims etc… but yet you cannot show us which of the above verses Catholics transgress. Your condemnation is based on man made doctrines that say against or instead of, even though not one verse says that. Aren’t we better served basing our beliefs on the Scriptural definition instead of man’s? By using man’s definition instead of the scriptural definitions don’t we risk doing exactly what Christ warned against in Mark7:13?

Oh the catholics are more cunning in what they do, they are wolves in sheep clothing.

They deny the truth, just not everyone is aware of it yet..............

 

[doulos]

Oh the catholics are more cunning in what they do, they are wolves in sheep clothing.

They deny the truth, just not everyone is aware of it yet..............

1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

If you believe they are antichrists then maybe you could show us which one of the above verses they are guilty of transgressing.

 

[loveme1]

1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

If you believe they are antichrists then maybe you could show us which one of the above verses they are guilty of transgressing.

The current pope announced the Jewish people's await of the Messiah was not in vain.

"That he would have the same traits as the one that came.....

The expectancy of the Messiah was in the Old Testament,'' he went on, ''and if the Old Testament keeps its value, then it keeps that as a value, too. It says you cannot just say all the Jews are wrong and we are right."


You either believe the Bible or you do not.

Passively back tracking.........................

 

[1Christianwarrior316]

If you say that Islam is the beast you would probably throw all Muslims out of the country and say it is for our own security, or would the real reason be so you can continue to keep getting yours, and maybe even more as there’s not enough for us and them

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

A day after a of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you", he said on National Television

"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia : one the Australian law and another Islamic law that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option", Costello said.

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off. Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want, to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off", he said.

Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians."

"However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the 'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia ." "However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand." "This idea of Australia being a multi-cultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. And as Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle."

"This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom"

"We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!"

"Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture."

"We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us."

"If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like "A Fair Go", then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others.

"Th! is is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom,

'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'."
"If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted."

This article was sent to me by a dear brother in the Lord. Now who's throwing Muslims out of their country for security reasons?

In Christ, 1Christianwarrior316

 

[doulos]

The current pope announced the Jewish people's await of the Messiah was not in vain.

"That he would have the same traits as the one that came.....

The expectancy of the Messiah was in the Old Testament,'' he went on, ''and if the Old Testament keeps its value, then it keeps that as a value, too. It says you cannot just say all the Jews are wrong and we are right."


You either believe the Bible or you do not.

Passively back tracking.........................

1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

As I suspected yiou cannot show which of the above 4 verses The Catholics transgress. But then again how could you? Catholics do believe that Christ is the Son of God and that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. Don't get me wrong the Catholics do have some questionable doctrines but that does not mean they are antichrists.

 

[loveme1]

1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

As I suspected yiou cannot show which of the above 4 verses The Catholics transgress. But then again how could you? Catholics do believe that Christ is the Son of God and that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. Don't get me wrong the Catholics do have some questionable doctrines but that does not mean they are antichrists.

Time will tell all things, you do not realize how they deny the truth.

They have done much so if possible they would deceive even the elect.

catholics believe in the son of their god yes..... and the son of their mother yes...

People are lead to believe it is Yahshua the Messiah they worship......

islam will play a part in their evil agenda.

Every hero needs a nemesis.....

 

[doulos]

Time will tell all things, you do not realize how they deny the truth.

They have done much so if possible they would deceive even the elect.

catholics believe in the son of their god yes..... and the son of their mother yes...

People are lead to believe it is Yahshua the Messiah they worship......

islam will play a part in their evil agenda.

Every hero needs a nemesis.....

Then maybe you could show us which of the above verses the Catholics transgress, instead of opinin. When I say those who follow Muhammad or Atheists etc.. who deny Christ are antichrists I can show the Scripture that proves they are antichrists. Can you demonstrate Scripture that proves your view?

 

[loveme1]

Then maybe you could show us which of the above verses the Catholics transgress, instead of opinin. When I say those who follow Muhammad or Atheists etc.. who deny Christ are antichrists I can show the Scripture that proves they are antichrists. Can you demonstrate Scripture that proves your view?

Ten Commandments:


20 And God spake all these words, saying,

2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

7 Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.

13 Thou shalt not kill.

14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.

15 Thou shalt not steal.

16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

18 And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off.


I have said, what I have said, and you seek, what you seek............

If you had been seeking the truth you would of found it.

You see not how they fulfill the verse you quote, because they have gone to great lengths to deceive..

Here is one for you:


32Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. 33But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

How could you be seen to acknowledge, yet deny at the same time?

Would removing the name of Yahvah God help?

Would changing the name of Yahshua the Messiah help?

The catholic church under the pretense of being too holy and keeping with jewish tradition have removed even the YHVH from their text.....

So if you think your verse proves anything more than that they are very cunning, you are mistaken.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Trying to sneak extreme right wing politics into the Christian faith through your attempt to interpret prophecies in the bible, nice try but we are not going to be deceived.

If you say that Islam is the beast you would probably throw all Muslims out of the country and say it is for our own security, or would the real reason be so you can continue to keep getting yours, and maybe even more as there’s not enough for us and them. Exodus 20:17 "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house

Extreme right-wing politics belongs to the unbelievers, not in the Christian faith

um this makes no sense. Since when is believing a muslim is anything extremist view, let alone right wing?

 

[doulos]

Ten Commandments:


20 And God spake all these words, saying,

2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

7 Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.

13 Thou shalt not kill.

14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.

15 Thou shalt not steal.

16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

18 And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off.


I have said, what I have said, and you seek, what you seek............

If you had been seeking the truth you would of found it.

You see not how they fulfill the verse you quote, because they have gone to great lengths to deceive..

Here is one for you:


32Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. 33But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

How could you be seen to acknowledge, yet deny at the same time?

Would removing the name of Yahvah God help?

Would changing the name of Yahshua the Messiah help?

The catholic church under the pretense of being too holy and keeping with jewish tradition have removed even the YHVH from their text.....

So if you think your verse proves anything more than that they are very cunning, you are mistaken.

1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
So once again you fail to demonstrate which of the above verses the Catholics are guilty of transgressing. And once again you provide your private interpretation.
2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.