Clean Animals and Unclean Animals

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hislastwalk

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Your understanding of which Law people were trying to make themselves right with Yahvah God and the 10 commandments.

Seek understanding of Ceremonial Law and the Commandments of Yahvah God.

Throwing these verses around without understanding is in vain...
the law is law, no matter how you put it.
 

loveme1

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1For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. 2For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. 3But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. 4For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
5Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

6In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.

7Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

8Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; 9Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. 10By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

11And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 13From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. 14For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. 15Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,

16This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

17And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

18Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.

19Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, 20By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; 21And having an high priest over the house of God; 22Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water. 23Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised) 24And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: 25Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
 
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Tombo

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If only you would stop and listen to your own advice and seek truth.

I pray the day never comes when I pray for your idea of wisdom.

Do not accuse another of leading people away from the Messiah Yahshua.

You have accused me of something of which I am not guilty of.

I'm under Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah always and forever.
I beg to differ. Do you, or do you not, hold that Jesus will reign for 1000years on this sin cursed earth? But anyway, may Jehovah and Jesus Christ have mercy on you.

Tom
 
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hislastwalk

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1For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. 2For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. 3But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. 4For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
5Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

6In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.

7Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

8Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; 9Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. 10By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

11And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 13From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. 14For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. 15Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,

16This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

17And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

18Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.

19Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, 20By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; 21And having an high priest over the house of God; 22Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water. 23Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;) 24And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: 25Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
that whole quote is going against what you're implying. But I'm not gonna cast my pearls, and I'ma avoid arguing, for it is worthless and profits nothing.
 
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Tombo

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that whole quote is going against what you're implying. But I'm not gonna cast my pearls, and I'ma avoid arguing, for it is worthless and profits nothing.
She is famous for this. She speaks in riddles most of the time, and when she does post something, it seems to contradict what she wants to support!!!!
Oh well, she is in my prayers.
God bless.

Tom
 

loveme1

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that whole quote is going against what you're implying. But I'm not gonna cast my pearls, and I'ma avoid arguing, for it is worthless and profits nothing.

No the whole quote went against what you believe, and please do not cast your idea of pearls at anyone, first receive understanding for yourself.
 
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hislastwalk

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She is famous for this. She speaks in riddles most of the time, and when she does post something, it seems to contradict what she wants to support!!!!
Oh well, she is in my prayers.
God bless.

Tom
lol.. I find it interesting Paul warned against teachers of the law.. but never against grace pastors. Unless they were using grace as an excuse to keep living immorally.
 
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hislastwalk

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No the whole quote went against what you believe, and please do not cast your idea of pearls at anyone, first receive understanding for yourself.
God bless loveme1.

Love ya! I really do!

How are you doing??
 

loveme1

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28He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

16This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

These two verse clearly show that there is Moses law and Yahvah God laws.

Revelation 14

12Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.



This verse rebukes people that tell others not to obey Yahvah God.
 
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hislastwalk

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These two verse clearly show that there is Moses law and Yahvah God laws.

Revelation 14

12Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.



This verse rebukes people that tell others not to obey Yahvah God.
loveme1;

how are ya doing? :) waddup?
 

iamsoandso

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and see Galatians 5;4 is one of my favorite verses,,,,,,,,,you have no part of grace,you who seek to justify yourselves by the law,,,,that is instead of being save by grace(cross),,you instead go back to the law of saving yourselves by your own works. that is if christ is your saviour then the works of your salvation rest upon his shoulders,,,,,,,,,,,"they are his works to preform your salvation",he was born into the earth and his death was the work counted as saving you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but after the Christ was crucified then there came into the earth "antichrist",who in themselves did not believe in the works of the messiah,(in that he had saved them or you) so they then returned to the works of saving themselves by their own works and not seeing you as clean or saved also set about to show you how to be saved(according to their own thoughts/works),,,,,,,,,,,,,,their works confess their belief's,they say "have you been saved yet?",,,,,,,,because they do not believe the blood of the cross saved you they are "busybodies" they have no rest from their works of saving you,they open the bible and search for how to "save you" since they do deny that he saved you",,,,,,,,,,,,,it never crosses their mind to say to you ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,," did you know that the lord saved you at the cross?",,,,,,,and show you the cross,,,,,,,,,,,,,they instead stand before you confessing themselves "the mighty hunters",,,,,,,"the warriors of god" going about to do the works of salvation that they do not believe.,,they are the "replacement Christ",,they set about to finish the work that Christ as they see it "almost did",,,,just as a child plays dress up they think to themselves i am " a mighty preacher of the almighty god" and so since they are (in their own minds) they must dress the part so they make themselves beautiful robes and get golden dishes and sashay around and pretend in front of men and build themselves houses to bring you to "to save you" they are the "back- up Christ" for just in case the real Christ did not do a proper job of saving you on the cross. they are preachers for your eyes standing in front of you appearing to look as a man of god,a bible under their arm and smiling at you as though they were angels.,,,,,,,,,,and the whole while you must see a preacher with your hearts eyes,,,,,,,,,,,one says how to be saved and the other shows you how you were saved,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"once i was dead and could not stand before god the father,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and then i was born on the cross at calvery two thousand years ago,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"i am in the midst of loving you",,,,,,,,,,
 

loveme1

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loveme1;

how are ya doing? :) waddup?

I am very well thank you, and hope you are well too?

The patronizing comments will not change the truth....

It may comfort you, but it will not change the truth.


You avoid scripture, you avoid truth.
 
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hislastwalk

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I am very well thank you, and hope you are well too?

The patronizing comments will not change the truth....

It may comfort you, but it will not change the truth.


You avoid scripture, you avoid truth.
I am very blessed! ^^

Hope you continue to be blessed as well. :)
 
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Tombo

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These two verse clearly show that there is Moses law and Yahvah God laws.

Revelation 14

12Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.



This verse rebukes people that tell others not to obey Yahvah God.
How is it that you can't understand that Jesus fulfilled the law on our behalf, and took the penalty of the law that we deserved? Romans 10:4 "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes."

Tom
 

loveme1

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How is that you can't understand that Jesus fulfilled the law on our behalf, and took the penalty of the law that we deserved? Romans 10:4 "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes."

Tom


Which Law came to an end?

If you read through the scripture I posted prior you would not of posted such a question.
 
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hislastwalk

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Which Law came to an end?

If you read through the scripture I posted prior you would not of posted such a question.
"Well then, if we emphasize faith, does this mean that we can forget about the law? Of course not! In fact, only when we have faith do we truly fulfill the law." -Romans 3:31
 

loveme1

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"Well then, if we emphasize faith, does this mean that we can forget about the law? Of course not! In fact, only when we have faith do we truly fulfill the law." -Romans 3:31

Which Law is this verse talking about?
 
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I wonder what God sees when there is all this talk about how we must not conduct our daily lives as close to what scripture says as possible!! The excuse given is “grace”. What gymnastics of mind makes that a reason not to live as close to God principles as we can? Or they say we are mortal and can’t do it perfectly? My daughter just explained the blouse I made had a flaw. I am not going to stop sewing!!!That is only a blouse, means nothing. God means my very life. They parade the "under grace not law". So? Who has ever since the world and man was created has not needed grace? Does that mean we must not listen to scripture? How God must need patience to put up with us..
 
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hislastwalk

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Which Law is this verse talking about?
I didn't reply to go round and round all over again, just to simply imply something to you. If you have the same spirit of God in you that I have, then I have faith that eventually you'll come to same revelation. :) I won't have to force you into believing anything, and I believe what I believe to the point where I don't have to argue about it, because I know the truth and am secure in it. Loveme1, you really have touched my heart, and I would like to talk to you sometime, you seem like a person who loves God.. but my heart breaks for you.
 

loveme1

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I didn't reply to go round and round all over again, just to simply imply something to you. If you have the same spirit of God in you that I have, then I have faith that eventually you'll come to same revelation. :) I won't have to force you into believing anything, and I believe what I believe to the point where I don't have to argue about it, because I know the truth and am secure in it. Loveme1, you really have touched my heart, and I would like to talk to you sometime, you seem like a person who loves God.. but my heart breaks for you.
You probably mean well, even if it is a misguided concern.


Below is the prior part to the verse you posted.
Read through it all and seek understanding.


27Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. 29Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: 30Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

31Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law


We are conversing not arguing, the Bible is always right, the question remains who is without the true understanding....

We both believe the other to be without understanding.



I love Almighty Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah.

I testify what was taught to me by the Holy spirit.

Yahvah God my witness.


Peace be with you.