Do not say "a conspiracy"!

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I was reading it and wanted to share....

Isaiah 8:9-13

New King James Version (NKJV)

9 “Be shattered, O you peoples, and be broken in pieces!
Give ear, all you from far countries.
Gird yourselves, but be broken in pieces;
Gird yourselves, but be broken in pieces.
10 Take counsel together, but it will come to nothing;
Speak the word, but it will not stand,
For God is with us.”[a]



11 For the Lord spoke thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me that I should not walk in the way of this people, saying:
12 “Do not say, ‘A conspiracy,’
Concerning all that this people call a conspiracy,
Nor be afraid of their threats, nor be troubled.
13 The Lord of hosts, Him you shall hallow;
Let Him be your fear,
And let Him be your dread.

Footnotes:
  1. Isaiah 8:10 Hebrew Immanuel
 
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Amen to these scriptures!
Thankyou Anandahya for finding this, for the conspiracy words have troubled me for a while, as it bore no fruit, only confusion.
It is good to have scripture to speak to this, thankyou for bringing it here. :)

God bless :)
pickles
 
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Simply say "the truth is"
 
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pickles said:
Amen to these scriptures!
Thankyou Anandahya for finding this, for the conspiracy words have troubled me for a while, as it bore no fruit, only confusion.
It is good to have scripture to speak to this, thankyou for bringing it here. :)

God bless :)
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Yeah they kind of bothered me too

Thank God that He placed the scriptures there to comfort and reassure us :)
 
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AnandaHya said:
I was reading it and wanted to share....

Isaiah 8:9-13

New King James Version (NKJV)

9 “Be shattered, O you peoples, and be broken in pieces!
Give ear, all you from far countries.
Gird yourselves, but be broken in pieces;
Gird yourselves, but be broken in pieces.
10 Take counsel together, but it will come to nothing;
Speak the word, but it will not stand,
For God is with us.”[a]



11 For the Lord spoke thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me that I should not walk in the way of this people, saying:
12 “Do not say, ‘A conspiracy,’
Concerning all that this people call a conspiracy,
Nor be afraid of their threats, nor be troubled.
13 The Lord of hosts, Him you shall hallow;
Let Him be your fear,
And let Him be your dread.


Footnotes:
  1. Isaiah 8:10 Hebrew Immanuel
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I kinda thought this would be a good read, review for us all right now. :)

in Jesus, God bless
pickles
 
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Yes but the bible has TONS of conspiracies that when on between the various characters. Conspiracies happen all the time.
 
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frankleespeaking

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Yes but the bible has TONS of conspiracies that when on between the various characters. Conspiracies happen all the time.
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I agree most people don't seem to understand what the true definition of the word "conspiracy" is its when two or more people devise plans to break the law or harm someone, by its own definition conspiracies are flooding the earth even as we speak, from a couple mechanics planning to stick it to some old lady with a car problem, to wall street insiders planning some inside trades.

conspiracies are a fact of human life from the first conspiracy with satan and his angels to lead Adam and Eve to sin, to say conspiracies do not exist is just plain ignorance, I think most people couldn't even handle the reality of the truth, in regards to actual proven conspiracies that have taken place in reality. Its amazing to me that most people don't even realize back in the 60's the joint chiefs of staff were trying to hatch a plan to attack American cities and make it appear like the cubans did it, it was called the "Northwood conspiracy" thank God JFK refused this satanic plan, imagine if a president who didn't have a conscience was offered a similar plan, who knows what the American people could be led to believe
 
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frankleespeaking said:
I agree most people don't seem to understand what the true definition of the word "conspiracy" is its when two or more people devise plans to break the law or harm someone, by its own definition conspiracies are flooding the earth even as we speak, from a couple mechanics planning to stick it to some old lady with a car problem, to wall street insiders planning some inside trades.

conspiracies are a fact of human life from the first conspiracy with satan and his angels to lead Adam and Eve to sin, to say conspiracies do not exist is just plain ignorance, I think most people couldn't even handle the reality of the truth, in regards to actual proven conspiracies that have taken place in reality. Its amazing to me that most people don't even realize back in the 60's the joint chiefs of staff were trying to hatch a plan to attack American cities and make it appear like the cubans did it, it was called the "Northwood conspiracy" thank God JFK refused this satanic plan, imagine if a president who didn't have a conscience was offered a similar plan, who knows what the American people could be led to believe
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I think you guys are missing the point. Our God, being all knowing and all seeing, is greater than any conspiracy. "If God be for us who can be against us?" :)
 
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I think you guys are missing the point. Our God, being all knowing and all seeing, is greater than any conspiracy. "If God be for us who can be against us?" :)
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Oh I know that. But a lot of Christians are so innocent to the ways of the world that they have no concept of conspiracy theory's. It's only if you point out that the bible is actually loaded with conspiracies and one could extrapleate the theories from those might someone actually realize that they even exist. But I do go by the idea that it's better to see no evil hear no evil. It' better not to look or go searching for it, or trying to find the truth of conspiracies. It's a waste of your mental energy. Better to just live a good life, have fun, and focus on God, which is what he wants not medaling in the ways of the world. Like I know some people that are so innocent, they're clueless to what's going on out there. And I'm so envious. I wish I didn't know as much as I do. I just would much rather live a carefree and good life. That's what I'm trying to do now. Just live a good life. Right any wrongs I've done and not worry about what goes on behind closed doors. Lifes so much easier that way, and just let God deal with any evil doers.
 
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wheeeeew!!!!!! that's a load off my mind,,,,,,,,,,i thought the whole time that god was warning us that the devil was "conspiring to deceive us",and that he was the one who was orchestrating the rise of the red dragon with seven heads ,and that the false prophet was folling him and deceiving the people of the earth,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"alls well let us cry peace!!!!!!!!!!!",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,there is no conspiracy to give us a pin number in our forehead",,,,,,,,,," we are not tricked into spiritual death by the devil",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,all is well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well,,,,,,,unless he was pointing out that he"god" had not launched any conspiracy against us",,,,,,,,,,well sudden destruction will fall upon us if their is an "conspiracy to lead us to spiritual death by the devil",and we say "all is well there is no conspiracy",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,which conspiracy are you refering to?????????????god laying snares in the path of his children or the devil ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,taking the breathren into his den????????????????
 
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Jude 1;4-15,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"there are men crept in unawares",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,huh,,,,,,,,,sneaky like guys ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,hid saying all is well,,,,,,,,,,,,thanks for letting me know Jude the brother of James and Jesus was crazy to think for a second that there were men crept in unawares ready to conspire against us all,,,,,,,,,,,,well theres no point in preaching at all if we are not led astray,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,im curious you read in the bible that god said he was not "conspiring against us",,,,,,,,,,,have you ever read in the books written by the devil that he was not?????????????im glad you found that god is not conspiring against his own creation,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,now look at those who are,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the devil and his false prophets,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
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Where did all those pagan devil worshipers go to?

Who are the devils recruits in assisting his plan to become like the Most High?

Did anyone become tempted into accepting these offers made to Yahshua the Messiah:

8Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; 9And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. 10Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. 11Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him
 
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Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things.

Philipians 4:8

That's why I say don't worry about all that crap out there, and don't go looking for it, or learning about it. It's honestly bad for you. That goes into a bit of a quantum physics discussion. Put simply whatever we think about or learn about becomes real to us. So do we really want all this crap that we now believe to be true taking up space in our minds for us to worry about each new negative conspiricy. it's honestly not worth it and not healthy. Knowledge is not power when your mind is full of worrisome subjects.
 
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Canadian36 said:
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things.

Philipians 4:8

That's why I say don't worry about all that crap out there, and don't go looking for it, or learning about it. It's honestly bad for you. That goes into a bit of a quantum physics discussion. Put simply whatever we think about or learn about becomes real to us. So do we really want all this crap that we now believe to be true taking up space in our minds for us to worry about each new negative conspiricy. it's honestly not worth it and not healthy. Knowledge is not power when your mind is full of worrisome subjects.
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There is nothing to fear when our foundation is Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah.

The Bible explains all things, and yes there is an evil agenda the Bible itself is warning us.

We must not fall victim of people who say " we are waking you up" when in fact they are trying to lead you into a violent reaction or deceiving you with something that is the same evil in the middle with a different coating of love and peace to lure you.

Like someone once said on here, you catch more people with honey than vinegar.
 
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Crossfire said:
I think you guys are missing the point. Our God, being all knowing and all seeing, is greater than any conspiracy. "If God be for us who can be against us?" :)
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...and by the same token

2Cor 2:11 Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.

There is a NT word that is used to define conspiracy and it is translated evil most of the time. The word is 'poneros' and it is different than 'kakos', another word for evil only intrinsic. The 'poneros' evil involves the activity and many labours of more than one agent, a systematic approach to incapacitate and bring reproach. When Paul was hindered by Satan in (2Thes 2:18) it was through the activity of 'poneros' evil that impeded Paul and not Paul's own intrinsic evil from within as in (Rom 7:21). The fruit of evil is always 'poneros' (Mt 7:17,18). Anything that involves the works or deeds of evil is 'poneros', the activity of evil and it involves working agents that are not divided in their endeavor. The six men in scripture that had this kind of evil repeatedly against them where, Moses, Elijah, Daniel, David, Christ and Paul. David has the most things to say concerning those that were motivated against him with this kind of evil. Yes, God is greater and at the same time we are not to be ignorant and we are to be wise as serpents and harmless as doves, when in the midst of these agents of evil.
 
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Crossfire said:
I think you guys are missing the point. Our God, being all knowing and all seeing, is greater than any conspiracy. "If God be for us who can be against us?" :)
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well thats a touching scripture when read in its required context, but in the reality of what the prophetic words of God declare will happen EVEN TO THE ELECT, the satanic conspiracy that God will allow to unfold, has plainly declared many martyrs will be lost at the hands of the beast and his system, they will be beheaded for not worshiping the beast or his image, or for not receiving his mark.

until Christ returns there very much exist a satanic conspiracy that is completely aligned to the will of satan, to destroy God's people, and people in general, as he hates humanity for this is what the war in heaven was all about
 
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I think im missing the Point.....I think Im being bamboozled by woman who start threads. :)
 
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Canadian36 said:
Oh I know that. But a lot of Christians are so innocent to the ways of the world that they have no concept of conspiracy theory's. It's only if you point out that the bible is actually loaded with conspiracies and one could extrapleate the theories from those might someone actually realize that they even exist. But I do go by the idea that it's better to see no evil hear no evil. It' better not to look or go searching for it, or trying to find the truth of conspiracies. It's a waste of your mental energy. Better to just live a good life, have fun, and focus on God, which is what he wants not medaling in the ways of the world. Like I know some people that are so innocent, they're clueless to what's going on out there. And I'm so envious. I wish I didn't know as much as I do. I just would much rather live a carefree and good life. That's what I'm trying to do now. Just live a good life. Right any wrongs I've done and not worry about what goes on behind closed doors. Lifes so much easier that way, and just let God deal with any evil doers.
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Ephesians 5:11 have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness BUT RATHER EXPOSE THEM!

Edmund Burke said all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Do not allow evil to triumph. Do not do sit by and do nothing.
 
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shrewd as serpents, innocent as doves...Matt 10:16
 
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Canadian36 said:
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things.

Philipians 4:8

That's why I say don't worry about all that crap out there, and don't go looking for it, or learning about it. It's honestly bad for you. That goes into a bit of a quantum physics discussion. Put simply whatever we think about or learn about becomes real to us. So do we really want all this crap that we now believe to be true taking up space in our minds for us to worry about each new negative conspiricy. it's honestly not worth it and not healthy. Knowledge is not power when your mind is full of worrisome subjects.
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yes! you should try to make yourself as naive and unaware of satans schemes as possible, so that way you can fall right into them?
 
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