Carrie Underwood. :(

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i didnt know much about Carrie Underwood. One night i was studying late and was searching for some music to keep me up. i came upon her song "Jesus take the wheel". I taught it was cool and appropriate..... because i really need Him to take the wheel on that paper I was doing. Then I took some time out to look at the video.
Red flag #1: it came up on VEVO
Red flag #2: something about the way she sang was subtly sensual; I remember thinking, Lord can she do that, what is she really communicating here?
Still like the song, but i wouldn't go after it.
What does coming up on VEVO have to do with how good or bad something is?
 
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Ok I don't understand the whol "Christians hate gay people" arguement. 1 John talks about loving your brother, otherwise you are just as bad also I refuse to hear Leviticus 17 used as an arguement because it sets out Jewish law and Christians don't follow any of it. If anyone can explain it to me I will be happy to hear it.
Ugh... i hate people that say things like that. Why is it a person can't state their disagreement with homosexuality without it being considered 'hating'? I don't hate homosexuals, and i don't agree with homosexuality. Most people i know feel the same way.

Also I am for Gay marriage as long as Churches aren't forced to host them. So why is it a problem. We are happy for Kim Kardashian to get married twice and cheat on her first husband and divorce the second but we are not happy for gay couples who have been loyal to one another for sometimes 20 odd years but they can't get married. Something is wrong with that logic. As long asgay marriage isn't forced upon Religions why should it bother youv

Really? Christians are happy over Kim Kardashian? And where you did you hear this little tidbit? Because most Christians i see don't like her lifestyle.


Two posts, and neither state truth.
 
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"For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due." (Romans 1:26-27). It also says somewhere else in the new testament that homosexuals won't inherit the kingdom of God. So it is wrong, just as many other sins such as lusting and cursing are wrong. We hate the sin but we still love the person that can potentially be encouraged away from these things, and be able to experience the complete fulfilling love of God that will make them whole.
 
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Life Warrior it also says love your brother in 1 John. Also are you reading the KJV or a different version
 
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Also if Churches aren't forced to hold Gay marriages why is it a problem
 
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Life Warrior it also says love your brother in 1 John. Also are you reading the KJV or a different version
Absolutely:). We love anyone no matter what sin they committ. And we do our best to encourage each other to live the way God wants us to and pray for each other. I believe it might have been the new international version, but looking through all the other versions I've found, I don't see much variation that wouldn't follow the point that God seems to be clearly making with regards to the sinfulness of homosexuality.
 
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Also if Churches aren't forced to hold Gay marriages why is it a problem
Well as far as that, I'll give you my personal opinion. I don't support gay marriage, but if there a came day where gay marriage was legalized in all 50 states of America, it wouldn't bother me. I would view it the same way as I view abortion. I don't think it's right, but that's what some people do, and I still love them. I agree with you on the church thing too. A church shouldn't be forced to have gay marriages, only if it chooses to.
 

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What does coming up on VEVO have to do with how good or bad something is?
Vevo is an occultic music connection; but that's a whole other discussion.
 

jandian

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Also if Churches aren't forced to hold Gay marriages why is it a problem
Jesus Christ is the head of the church and Jesus doesn't like it; that's the problem
 
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The way that you all people talk is not very christian!!!! Thou that has not sinned shall cast the first stone!!! anybody recall this???? how bout you keep them in your prayers instead of talking smack... Yes i am a gay christian and i DO NOT believe in gay marriage.
 

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I would comment on the "Gay Marriage" theme, but considering it is in 128747362598 other threads I will save myself and you some time. I never liked Carrie Underwood. Not because of her beliefs, but because I don't like pop-country. Try Jamey Johnson :) He is a good artist, and just tells it like it is. Some will argue that the lyrics aren't good, BUT he is telling the stories of his life. I like artists that write their own music. Most of the artists you hear now are just sell-outs and sing whatever they are paid to sing. Have fun :)
 
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And NO this is NOT a thread about gay marriage and whether it is right or wrong, I am just voicing my displeasure.
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Ok I don't understand the whol "Christians hate gay people" arguement. 1 John talks about loving your brother, otherwise you are just as bad also I refuse to hear Leviticus 17 used as an arguement because it sets out Jewish law and Christians don't follow any of it. If anyone can explain it to me I will be happy to hear it.
Also I am for Gay marriage as long as Churches aren't forced to host them. So why is it a problem. We are happy for Kim Kardashian to get married twice and cheat on her first husband and divorce the second but we are not happy for gay couples who have been loyal to one another for sometimes 20 odd years but they can't get married. Something is wrong with that logic. As long asgay marriage isn't forced upon Religions why should it bother youv
 
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I would comment on the "Gay Marriage" theme, but considering it is in 128747362598 other threads I will save myself and you some time. I never liked Carrie Underwood. Not because of her beliefs, but because I don't like pop-country. Try Jamey Johnson :) He is a good artist, and just tells it like it is. Some will argue that the lyrics aren't good, BUT he is telling the stories of his life. I like artists that write their own music. Most of the artists you hear now are just sell-outs and sing whatever they are paid to sing. Have fun :)
I wish today's 'artists' would write their music, there are a couple that co-write most of their stuff, but not many.

I like allot of the older country music, Alan Jackson, George Straight, Lone Star, Diamond Rio...
 
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99% of them are unbelievers (i'm guessing) but most of the artists don't openly support gay marriage or something completely against the Bible. That doesn't make them any better, it's just different when she claims to be Christian and then says she supports gay marriage.
Adultery is also against the Bible but Amy Grant is still considered a Christian music darling.
 

BillyTheKid

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I wish today's 'artists' would write their music, there are a couple that co-write most of their stuff, but not many.

I like allot of the older country music, Alan Jackson, George Straight, Lone Star, Diamond Rio...
You would like Jamey Johnson if you like older country. He has a style that you would hear in a honky tonk. A lot of influence from older generations. Check him out on youtube or something.
 
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Adultery is also against the Bible but Amy Grant is still considered a Christian music darling.
The difference is accepting sin as ok versus seeing it for what it really is... detestable. Yes, people sin, but it is only when you live in sin, when you accept sin as a way of life that things truly come into question.
 
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Just in case anyone was interested, Carrie Underwood responded to the backlash.

"I was asked a difficult question in the last five minutes of an interview and I answered it the best way I knew how, and after that I do what I do and I love making music and I generally try to stay out of any kind of controversy," she told The Associated Press in an interview on Tuesday. That said, Underwood is a former "American Idol" and Grammy winner who knows what she says will be heard."The role-model word is really scary to me, because no matter what happens in your life, something you do, wear, say, sing, whatever - somebody somewhere is probably not going to like it too well," she said. "I just really try hard to do what I do and try to be nice to people and make great music and if people think they can look up to that, that's wonderful. If not, that's OK too."
 
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The difference is accepting sin as ok versus seeing it for what it really is... detestable. Yes, people sin, but it is only when you live in sin, when you accept sin as a way of life that things truly come into question.
She was sexually immoral, so that's good grounds for divorce. But what about her remarriage? Is she not 'living in sin'? Isn't she accepting adultery as a way of life? Aren't they both?

Aren't you accepting it as okay by not seeing anything wrong with it?

Moving goalposts.

If we, as Christians, really want to talk about who should and shouldn't be married and be Biblically serious about it, shouldn't we say that remarriage is wrong....as wrong as gay marriage?
 

Spartacus1122

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I was saddened to hear today that Carrie Underwood supports gay marriage. :'(.
Carrie Underwood is just a celebrity.
The job of celebrities is to pretend they are smarter than everybody else, to follow the 'trendy' crowds like sheep, and tell others what to think and believe.

The opinions of celebrities are often as relevant as the plot of a B-horror movie from the 70's.