Catholic Heresy (for the record)

[murraymuzz]

It is sad to see you offer this explanation.


You quote a Commandment to support your delusion................

First ask yourself, do you live in accord to all of scripture, or just the bits that support your catholic religion?




By Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah

I strive to keep the 10 Commandments not for Salvation, but out of love and gratitude for my Salvation.

Just now because you quoted those passages shows me that you haven't even bothered to understand what God is commanding us to do, you are taking things at face value to try and prove your position that, the Catholic Church is wrong. So I ask you why did God command there to be two cherubim on the ark of the covenant if that goes againts his law and why was the temple decorated with intricate carvings also?

The commandment here is telling us that we will not make statues and idols to serve in the place of God, and serve them and adore them, thus giving the same honor that is meant for the father to other things is what is being forbidden. We are allowed to create reminders for ourselves that which testify to the glory of God.

One more thing you always refer to God by his name, did you ever refer to your own father by his name?

Im sorry to see you delude yourself further away from the truth and try to take others with you.

 

[loveme1]

Just now because you quoted those passages shows me that you haven't even bothered to understand what God is commanding us to do, you are taking things at face value to try and prove your position that, the Catholic Church is wrong. So I ask you why did God command there to be two cherubim on the ark of the covenant if that goes againts his law and why was the temple decorated with intricate carvings also?

The commandment here is telling us that we will not make statues and idols to serve in the place of God, and serve them and adore them, thus giving the same honor that is meant for the father to other things is what is being forbidden. We are allowed to create reminders for ourselves that which testify to the glory of God.

One more thing you always refer to God by his name, did you ever refer to your own father by his name?

Im sorry to see you delude yourself further away from the truth and try to take others with you.

If Yahvah God says do something then we can do it......



He is Almighty with all authority, the catholic church is not.....

I will refer to my Yahvah God by his name, he said not to use it in vain.... not to, not use it at all...



One of us is deluded, only time will reveal all things.

My foundation is Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah.

 

[murraymuzz]

If Yahvah God says do something then we can do it......



He is Almighty with all authority, the catholic church is not.....

I will refer to my Yahvah God by his name, he said not to use it in vain.... not to, not use it at all...



One of us is deluded, only time will reveal all things.

My foundation is Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah.

God founded the Catholic Church, and gave her the authority to lead the people into the truth.

I agree with you that we are allowed to use it, does it not seem vain to use it everytime you speak? I don't believe you are being very reverent of the name when you constantly use it, but thats not for me to decide.

One of us is deluded, and for your sake I would hope it is me.

 

[loveme1]

God founded the Catholic Church, and gave her the authority to lead the people into the truth.

I agree with you that we are allowed to use it, does it not seem vain to use it everytime you speak? I don't believe you are being very reverent of the name when you constantly use it, but thats not for me to decide.

One of us is deluded, and for your sake I would hope it is me.

Yahvah God did not found the catholic church.

The god they worship may have founded it, but it abominable.... and goes against Yahvah God not for.

Every time i speak, is quite different to every time i post in relation to his truth....

One of us is deluded, and for your sake I would hope it is me

For your sake I hope you realize it is you......

 

[murraymuzz]

Yahvah God did not found the catholic church.

The god they worship may have founded it, but it abominable.... and goes against Yahvah God not for.

Every time i speak, is quite different to every time i post in relation to his truth....





For your sake I hope you realize it is you......

You insult the creator of the universe and his church, I hope one day you will realise your mistake.

I know at the end of the day you are the one who will realize the mistake youve made, i just really hope it wont be too late for you.

 

[loveme1]

You insult the creator of the universe and his church, I hope one day you will realise your mistake.

I know at the end of the day you are the one who will realize the mistake youve made, i just really hope it wont be too late for you.

I love my Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah and strive to do what pleases him.


I would never insult him.

You insult him, granted in a deluded state, but still if you loved him you would not partake in that church.


I will die believing that church is against and not for Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah.


Ask yourself why they who claim to be of him, do not do the things he says?

Why they themselves claim to have changed his Sabbath.

Why they remove his name......


You will have more excuses... but none have any truth... just excuses.....

 

[Shyness]

One thing this thread shows is that RoboOp and the rest of the administrations' fail on their part and that their willingness to participate in the bullying and harassment against Catholics on this site along with all the other ones who are doing the bashing. They are suppose to be leaders on this site and by posting this thread, they are definitely creating a stumbling block and actually encouraging and supporting the bullying and harassment against people who are Catholic. I can tell you the love of God is definitely not here and I would not even recommend this place to anybody at all. This place I view it is equivalent to an R or an X rated movie due to the hatred and hostility against those who are Catholics and this thread proves the admins are willing to play a role in the bullying as well. Every site always has bad apples but in this situation, the administrators such as RoboOp are acting like the bad apples as well and it is ashamed when you have people who are suppose to be leaders also contributing to bullying and harassment as well against people who are Catholic.

And also to add to this, based on what I got out of this thread from RoboOp and the administration here is they do tolerate and encourage bullying and harassment on this site against people who are Catholic because they are participating in it. This is the way I feel abut this and that tells me what types of leaders and role models they are. This is completely shameful of how they can contribute to a hostile environment against people who are Catholic.

 

[loveme1]

And also to add to this, based on what I got out of this thread from RoboOp and the administration here is they do tolerate bullying and harassment on this site against people who are Catholic because they are participating in it. This is the way I feel abut this and that tells me what types of leaders and role models they are. This is completely shameful of how they can contribute to a hostile environment against people who are Catholic.

They also do not force anyone to participate in their site, it is voluntary.

IF the truth offends you then consider the "why?"

 

[loveme1]

The time comes when those of the Truth stop loving people by "live and let live" and resort to the "live and share the truth" and so be it.



Consider all that is written, when are those speaking the Truth favored?

18If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. 19If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah know our hearts and our intentions...

 

[Mediate]

Did anywhere I say that the Gospel came from the Catholic church?? No I did not. But ALL subsequent churches, after the formation of the Roman Catholic one, altered the Catholic bible. The Catholic Bible which has the same gospels in it as the Protestant one. And the Baptist one. And the Methodist one. And practically any other one you can find. Denominationalism is a stupid, stupid excuse for some 'Christians' to belittle, condemn and judge others as having 'a flawed faith'. What makes YOU so sure that YOURS is even correct? It's snobbery. Cut it out.

 

[Mediate]

Is it not the same God and Jesus catholics worship? Is it not the same story? Is it not a religion with over a billion followers? Were not the Romans the first people to be a MAJORITY in belief in Christianity? Yes, they were.

It was a man called Martin Luther who changed the ways of the church.

 

[Mediate]

Loveme1, unfortunately, you are the one who is deluded. You keep citing this Yahvah God term like you are the only correct follower in the universe. I know plenty of Catholics, who do good wordks, have kind hearts, and repent to Jesus. They are no less than you.

 

[Mediate]

Loveme1, Catholics, contrary to your belief, do not believe that the Church has more authority than God. that would be absurd. But the church has the authority to teach about God. Peter was the first pope. He himself, was given authority to teach about God. To build the church. Brush up on your history, please. And stop condemning people.

 

[Shyness]

Matthew 7 1-5

Judge not,that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge,ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete,it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye,but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother,Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold,a beam is in thine own eye?

5 Thou hypocrite,first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

That is one of the scriptures that this thread does not follow.

 

[Shyness]

And as far as being a leader, if you cannot lead yourself, you cannot lead others. Your behavior and attitude on and off the site must reflect the proper and biblical way users must conduct themselves on here. This thread posted by RoboOp is NOT a good example of good leadership.

 

[sitwatcher]

And as far as being a leader, if you cannot lead yourself, you cannot lead others. Your behavior and attitude on and off the site must reflect the proper and biblical way users must conduct themselves on here. This thread posted by RoboOp is NOT a good example of good leadership.

You mean RoboOp is not a good leader at all?

 

[Spartacus1122]

I do not hate anyone.

It is my love for Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah that I share this truth with you.... not out of hate for the people deceived by the catholic church and all other false religions.

Loveme's version of "I do not hate you" = "I believe you are wrong on everything and unless you believe the same way I do, you will burn in Hell, cuz only I know the truth, and only I can speak for God."

 

[Spartacus1122]

Yahvah God did not found the catholic church.

We believe St. Peter is the founder, and the first pope (leader) of the Church. As Christ instructed him, his name would mean "rock" because he would be the first building block of Christ's church, as Mediate eloquently explained.

And also to add to this, based on what I got out of this thread from RoboOp and the administration here is they do tolerate and encourage bullying and harassment on this site against people who are Catholic because they are participating in it. This is the way I feel abut this and that tells me what types of leaders and role models they are. This is completely shameful of how they can contribute to a hostile environment against people who are Catholic.

Some people suffer of a Napoleonic complex, trigger a chain reaction, and then high-tail to avoid any wrong-doing with it.
Notice how the Administration was more involved in the discussion for the first 2-3 pages, until SantoSubito fired out his ammunition of knowledge and facts.

The intent for this thread, as obvious to the "sticky", was to permanently set up a discussion to dishonestly bash the CCh. And as a result, they got more Catholics on the website, AND other fellow Christians standing up for them!

Poetic justice, says I.

I wouldn't call it bad leadership. Simply hypocritical Christianity. Envious shepherds who do not want their flock to intermingle with "others".
If the administration had the decency to admit wrongdoing, they would remove the entire thread, and call for a truce.
For now, we'll have to put up with fanatical bloodhounds like Loveme1 to persist with the delusional bashing, while they hide behind curtains a'la Wizard of Oz.

This has gotten to the point of the ridiculous.

 

[Shyness]

This thread needs to be deleted. All it is doing is creating mire and more negative tensions andnot doing any good at all.

 

[sitwatcher]

As long as we know that God does not like idol worshippers "those who bow down before a statue images or sculptures".