I'm the only one who uses "full stop" so I'll bite that you were referring to what I had said. There is too much noise in your interpretation of "Today's Pentecostal 'tongues' to even comment on, and as I stated, I do believe there has been widespread damage from "charismatic chaos". I've jumped in this thread to pose a question to any cessationist, which I see as the continued voice from a thousand year old conflict in Corinth. So I'll just get to my question.
OK
Reading 1 Cor 14:2-4, do you acknowledge that Paul explores the gift of tongues different from the discernible languages at Pentecost?
No.
If you are talking about the tongues of angels bit, he is using hyperbole.
Anyway. Angels speak to men in their own language.
What is your interpretation of v.18?
How many languages did Paul speak, do you suppose.
Hebrew, Greek we know for certain.
Given that he was the chosen vessel to take the Gospel to the gentiles, he clearly was given the gift of knowing and speaking their languages, so it must have been, as he said, more than any at Corinth.
ex:
Acts 2
And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
With that asked, do you believe a 21st century believer and follower of Christ can have the gift of tongues in which the person can pray to God using a language that God Himself has given the person through the Holy Spirit?.
LOL.
There is too much noise in your interpretation of "Today's Pentecostal 'tongues' to even comment on
With that asked, do you believe a 21st century believer and follower of Christ can have the gift of tongues in which the person can pray to God using a language that God Himself has given the person through the Holy Spirit?.
If you are describing unintelligible Glossolalia the answer is no.
Glossolalia or speaking in tongues is the
fluid vocalizing (or less commonly, the writing) of speech-like syllables which lack any readily comprehended meaning, in some cases, as part of religious practice.[1] The significance of glossolalia has varied in context, with some minorities considering it as a part of a sacred language. It is most prominently practiced within Pentecostal and Charismatic Christianity, but it is also practiced in non-Christian religions as well.
If Xenoglossy, then yes. That was the gift.
Glossolalia also sometimes refers to xenoglossy, which is
speaking in a natural language that was previously unknown to the speaker.
wiki
If your answer is "No", do you not worry that you are disclaiming the work of the Holy Spirit who is at work in everyone who believes, giving the gifts that He determines.
According to my qualification above, No.
That stuff is not of God.
And, if you (like me) do not possess that gift, do you not see that this would be a "have-not" saying "What about me? It isn't fair?"...
Uh....No.
I want nothing to do with that.
The HAVES can have it.
So I am not like you.
especially if the gift of tongues is a spiritual level of communication with God that overwhelms a person to edification? Because...I would want that edification! I think Paul wanted everyone to have that edification!
Ya. That is the spiel.
Just start jibbering.
Maybe you will FEEL something.
That is what it is all about...FEELING. Experiential religious activity (very popular in paganism).
Paul would be mortified by what goes on today.
Again, I do not speak in tongues. I did ask the Holy Spirit fifteen years ago when I was praying alone that I might receive the gift, but He did not give it to me. I accepted it and moved on.
Oh.
If I were to pick every single verse/passage on tongues, in no way does God ever say "This gift ends on so-and-so date, or with so-and-so person." It is a stretch, and in every instance cessaionist theologians will say, "it seems evident that..." which is simply conjecture. To me, all that reads is a foot claiming the hand doesn't belong because it isn't a hand and it can't understand what it means to be a hand. I see this as folly.
If you suddenly know a foreign language - go preach ‘Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures"
