Bloodlines of the Nephilim - A biblical study

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Elizabeth619

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Adam was the first 'angelic' looking being, for he was created in the image of the LORD, which is that of a man, and the Likeness of the Lord, which is Light (see GEN1:26-28;Ez1:26-28; 1Jn1:5): and Eve was the second, who is the Mother of ALL LIVING and is elevated above the 'angels' because she is their mother (1Cor). Therefore, all born of them and their children before they 'fell' (sinned) are the host of angels; and all born after the Fall are the sons and daughters of man.

Realize that Adam is the Devil, and the Serpent (not a snake), and Satan, and others in scripture, because he is the first liar (Jn8:44), since he deceived Eve from the very Beginning by telling her a perverted commandment, one which he added to, and diminished from, and being the very one she regurgitated back to him (the serpent- Gen3:2-3) on the day she first ate the 'forbidden' fruit. Therefore, Adam is the father of both the good angels (the cherubim) and the bad angels (the seraphim), and also all mortals, being those born in sin: and Eve is their Mother.

Man are never, and have never been angels. There is nowhere int he bible that suggests otherwise.Angels are created beings of God that are NOT mortal. They have no gender, andare not bound to any type of law meant for man.
 

JaumeJ

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If anyone is interested in the references in the Word of Yahweh, God, on nephilim, the following are the two mentions:

(ASV) The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them: the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.

Above, in the days before the flood.

Below, when the 12 come back from espying the promised land.
Num 13:32 And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had spied out unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, through which we have gone to spy it out, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of great stature.
Num 13:33 And there we saw the Nephilim, the sons of Anak, who come of the Nephilim: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.
 
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"There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown" Gen 6:4

The word "Nephilim," translated as "giants" in the New King James Version, means people who were physically bigger than typical men or who were of outstanding skill (as in "he was a giant among men"). Notice that the giants existed before and after the sons of God married the daughters of men. The giants were not a product of the sons of God marrying the daughters of men. Thus before the flood there was a population of physically large men or very skilled men. The latter probably was what was intended since the passage goes on to say, "Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown."

"There we saw the giants (the descendants of Anak came from the giants); and we were like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight" (Numbers 13:33).
Here again the word "Nephilim" is being used and again translated "giants," but here it is definitely referring to physical stature. Anak must have been an exceptionally large man and his descendants were large as well. "Where can we go up? Our brethren have discouraged our hearts, saying, "The people are greater and taller than we; the cities are great and fortified up to heaven; moreover we have seen the sons of the Anakim there"" (Deuteronomy 1:28). They weren't the only nation of large people: "The Emim had dwelt there in times past, a people as great and numerous and tall as the Anakim. They were also regarded as giants, like the Anakim, but the Moabites call them Emim" (Deuteronomy 2:10-11).
Therefore, Nephilim is not a word for a race, but a characteristic of some people that crops up at times in the human race.


Wrong!
Nephilim is interpreted 'those from heaven to earth came'...

In Job the 'sons of God' presented themselves in heaven before God and Satan was with them... hence, they were angels.

Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, Satan also came among them (Job 1:6).
Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came among them to present himself before the Lord (Job 2:1).
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? (Job 38:7, cf. Psalm 89:6; Daniel 3:25).
Scholars who reject this view readily acknowledge the fact that the precise term is clearly defined in Scripture.87 The reason for rejecting the fallen angel interpretation is that such a view is said to be in violation of both reason and Scripture.
The primary passage which is said to be problematical is that found in Matthew’s gospel, where our Lord said, “You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures, or the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven” (Matthew 22:29-30).
We are told that here our Lord said that angels are sexless, but is this really true? Jesus compared men in heaven to angels in heaven. Neither men nor angels are said to be sexless in heaven but we are told that in heaven there will be no marriage. There are no female angels with whom angels can generate offspring. Angels were never told to ‘be fruitful and multiply’ as was man.
When we find angels described in the book of Genesis, it is clear that they can assume a human-like form, and that their sex is masculine. The writer to the Hebrews mentions that angels can be entertained without man’s knowing it (Hebrews 13:2). Surely angels must be convincingly like men. The homosexual men of Sodom were very capable of judging sexuality. They were attracted by the ‘male’ angels who came to destroy the city (cf. Genesis 19:1ff, especially verse 5).
In the New Testament, two passages seem to refer to this incident in Genesis 6, and to support the angel view:
For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment; (II Peter 2:4).
And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day (Jude 6).

The whole 'baal, horus, zeus, osiris, etc' worship is connected to Tubal-Cain... do a bit of studying and don't disregard the topic of this OR because these nephilim will 'revisit'.... it is part of the tribulation plan. (rev. 9:11)
 

Elizabeth619

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Wrong!
Nephilim is interpreted 'those from heaven to earth came'...

In Job the 'sons of God' presented themselves in heaven before God and Satan was with them... hence, they were angels.

Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, Satan also came among them (Job 1:6).
Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came among them to present himself before the Lord (Job 2:1).
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? (Job 38:7, cf. Psalm 89:6; Daniel 3:25).
Scholars who reject this view readily acknowledge the fact that the precise term is clearly defined in Scripture.87 The reason for rejecting the fallen angel interpretation is that such a view is said to be in violation of both reason and Scripture.
The primary passage which is said to be problematical is that found in Matthew’s gospel, where our Lord said, “You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures, or the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven” (Matthew 22:29-30).
We are told that here our Lord said that angels are sexless, but is this really true? Jesus compared men in heaven to angels in heaven. Neither men nor angels are said to be sexless in heaven but we are told that in heaven there will be no marriage. There are no female angels with whom angels can generate offspring. Angels were never told to ‘be fruitful and multiply’ as was man.
When we find angels described in the book of Genesis, it is clear that they can assume a human-like form, and that their sex is masculine. The writer to the Hebrews mentions that angels can be entertained without man’s knowing it (Hebrews 13:2). Surely angels must be convincingly like men. The homosexual men of Sodom were very capable of judging sexuality. They were attracted by the ‘male’ angels who came to destroy the city (cf. Genesis 19:1ff, especially verse 5).
In the New Testament, two passages seem to refer to this incident in Genesis 6, and to support the angel view:
For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment; (II Peter 2:4).
And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day (Jude 6).

The whole 'baal, horus, zeus, osiris, etc' worship is connected to Tubal-Cain... do a bit of studying and don't disregard the topic of this OR because these nephilim will 'revisit'.... it is part of the tribulation plan. (rev. 9:11)
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the ground, and daughters were born unto them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all that they chose. And Jehovah said, My spirit shall not strive with man for ever, for that he also is flesh: yet shall his days be a hundred and twenty years. The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them: the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown (Genesis 6:1-4, ASV).
The term “Nephilim,” as portrayed in the more recent translations of the Bible (ASV, RSV, NIV), is found in two Old Testament texts—here in Genesis 6:4 and in Numbers 13:33. In the King James Version, the original term is rendered by “giants.”
There is a common view that the Nephilim were the offspring of sexual relationships between men and angels (Laney 1997, 20-22). There is absolutely no evidence for that theory (which actually has roots in Greek mythology), and, in fact, it is contrary to the explicit testimony of Scripture.
Angels are spirits (Hebrews 1:14) and do not possess, therefore, physical attributes (Luke 24:39). While angels sometimes temporarily assumed the forms of men (cf. Acts 10:3, 30), they were not actual physical beings. Jesus emphatically stated that angels do not marry (Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34ff).
The fact is, the language of Genesis 6:1ff does not demand that the Nephilim of verse six were the offspring of the unions mentioned in verse two. The presence of the Nephilim may be regarded as merely contemporary (“in those days”) with the marriages described in the context.
It also is exceedingly fanciful to suggest that the Nephilim were the offspring of “demonically controlled men and women of this period” (Morris 1976, 172).
Even more ludicrous is the novel notion that the Nephilim were an animal-human species on their way to becoming fully human via the evolutionary route.
The root meaning of the Hebrew term is debated; that is why most modern Bible versions have transliterated it rather than attempting a pure English rendition. The KJV “giants” derives from the Greek Old Testament (LXX), which has the word gigantes. Some suggest that the original word meant “fall,” perhaps yielding the sense of one who has “fallen”(Youngblood 1997, 678).
If true, this could hint of the apostate character of these people. Others view the term in the sense of “to fall upon,” i.e., an attack (Leupold 1978, 258), which might suggest a violent sort of men who assaulted others.
The contextual use of the term in later history does suggest that, in that setting at least, the Nephilim were men of extraordinary size (Numbers 13:32-33). There are other biblical references to exceptionally large people. Og, king of Bashan, had an iron bed that was some thirteen feet long by six feet wide (Deuteronomy 3:11). Goliath, the giant slain by David, was about nine feet tall (1 Samuel 17:4). Such great size may have been the result of genetic defects. For example, 2 Samuel 21:20 mentions a giant who had a total of twenty-four toes and fingers.
Archaeology has confirmed the existence of large people in the ancient world. One writer notes: “The remains of a man of enormous stature have been discovered at Grimaldi on the Mediterranean coast by the Franco-Italian frontier” (Atkinson 1957, 72).
When all is said, the derivation of the term remains obscure, as do these ancient people themselves, but there is no reason to surmise that the Genesis record has an aura of the mythological.
 

Elizabeth619

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NEPHILIM means GIANTS. End of.
 
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Sorry serpentslayer. I dont share that belief even remotely
Of course you don't because you don't believe GEN 1 - 3 are complete and accurate. In other words, you don't believe GOD spoke the complete TRUTH about ALL HE did in the Beginning. If you did, you would realize that what i am saying is absolutely the TRUTH because it agrees with what spoke, and how GOD is just in all HE did in the Beginning.
 
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I will give my opinion on the subject. This is why I believe its more likely than not that the sons of God in Genesis 6 were angels.

John 1:12-13
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

There was only one human being mentioned by name from the old testament that was called son of God. That person was Adam and he was not born of blood, nor the will of flesh, nor the will of man, but of God.

Before Jesus died on the cross, no other being could claim to be a son of God (Bənê hāʼĕlōhîm) except Adam and angels because everyone else was born of blood, the will of the flesh, and the will of man. So sons of God in the old testament either referred to angels (Job 1:6) or Adam.

Luke 3:38
Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
 

Elizabeth619

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I will give my opinion on the subject. This is why I believe its more likely than not that the sons of God in Genesis 6 were angels.

John 1:12-13
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

There was only one human being mentioned by name from the old testament that was called son of God. That person was Adam and he was not born of blood, nor the will of flesh, nor the will of man, but of God.

Before Jesus died on the cross, no other being could claim to be a son of God (Bənê hāʼĕlōhîm) except Adam and angels because everyone else was born of blood, the will of the flesh, and the will of man. So sons of God in the old testament either referred to angels (Job 1:6) or Adam.

Luke 3:38
Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
I so agree with you.

And I like the name Bubba, makes me giggle.
 
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Bubba30

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I so agree with you.

And I like the name Bubba, makes me giggle.
I have no idea how I got that nickname. People have been calling me that since I was born haha.
 

Elizabeth619

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Of course you don't because you don't believe GEN 1 - 3 are complete and accurate. In other words, you don't believe GOD spoke the complete TRUTH about ALL HE did in the Beginning. If you did, you would realize that what i am saying is absolutely the TRUTH because it agrees with what spoke, and how GOD is just in all HE did in the Beginning.
Wow, a mix between Mormon and Islamic doctrine.....
 
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A-Omega

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that's fitting...considering 'nephilim bloodlines' aren't in the bible...so a biblical study of them is impossible...

The word BIBLE is not in the Bible either. So why are you using it??
 
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Is that your argument? Really?
"Bible" is greek(Biblos) for "Book".
And yet, the word BIBLE is not in the Bible. That does not change the fact of the matter.

Nephilim comes from the Aramaic word for giants, hence the Septuagint using the word gigantes and the KJV using giants.

But none of this is an argument. I am merely showing the flawed logic of that statement. A word does not have to be in the BIBLE to make it relevant to a BIBLICAL discussion.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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The word BIBLE is not in the Bible either. So why are you using it??
the bible actually exists...if you want to call it by some other name...then i won't stop you...

'nephilim bloodlines' on the other hand are imaginary and unscriptural...no matter what label you put on them...
 

Elizabeth619

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And yet, the word BIBLE is not in the Bible. That does not change the fact of the matter.

Nephilim comes from the Aramaic word for giants, hence the Septuagint using the word gigantes and the KJV using giants.

But none of this is an argument. I am merely showing the flawed logic of that statement. A word does not have to be in the BIBLE to make it relevant to a BIBLICAL discussion.
Then lets discuss how many errors that are in the article you posted.
 
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Of course you don't because you don't believe GEN 1 - 3 are complete and accurate. In other words, you don't believe GOD spoke the complete TRUTH about ALL HE did in the Beginning. If you did, you would realize that what i am saying is absolutely the TRUTH because it agrees with what spoke, and how GOD is just in all HE did in the Beginning.
I do believe in gen 1-3 I just dont believe your interpretation of it. I am on a phone so my responses will lack depth but your interpretation is the one that adds to the doctrine, not mine. If Adam was satan and convinced eve to eat of the fruit than why would the bible say eve brought the prospect to Adam? I dont really want an answer btw I just wanted to give you something to chew on.
 
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A-Omega

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the bible actually exists...if you want to call it by some other name...then i won't stop you...

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Nice try. You're just trying to break your own rule. YOU are the one who should never use the word BIBLE. After all, it's not in the Bible! lol. Now you are just trying to evade your own flawed logic.
 
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Then lets discuss how many errors that are in the article you posted.
FINALLY. I would love to. if you have a Biblical argument to make, please do so, by all means. I would love to hear it.