Bipolar Disorder – Is it Demons????

[moment_of_faith]

Just look at what this says

Cognate: 5333 phármakos – properly, a sorcerer; used of people using drugs and "religious incantations" to drug people into living by their illusions – like having magical (supernatural) powers to manipulate God into giving them more temporal possessions.
You continue to research this word you get -- Pharmakos - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

using drugs and "religious incantations" to drug people into living by their illusions

 

[Mediate]

Just look at what this says

Cognate: 5333 phármakos – properly, a sorcerer; used of people using drugs and "religious incantations" to drug people into living by their illusions – like having magical (supernatural) powers to manipulate God into giving them more temporal possessions.
You continue to research this word you get -- Pharmakos - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

using drugs and "religious incantations" to drug people into living by their illusions

If you read it fully, its talking about drugging people into thinking they HAVE magical powers to MANIPULATE GOD.

The antipsychotic drugs try to alleviate illusionary thoughts.

 

[guymanuel]

Guy I understand that. I'm saying most bipolar people I know do not accept Jesus as their lord and savior and the one or two that do asked Jesus to be their lord and savior after the fact but then when talking to them they don't really believe in the bible at least not literally.

So is bipolar a demon?? Spiritual Warfare – Remember we are not fighting flesh and blood

Well, I thought I made myself clear. Just like FEAR, it is a Spirit (Demon). And I do agree with you to a certain point to possession verses oppression. I do agree that all need deliverance and can get deliverance. This is my point though. You have agreed that you had fear since you are a CHRISTIAN. Fear is a DEMON also. Fear comes from UNBELIEF too. BI-POLAR will cause a person to act in certain ways. I worked for a boss who had bi-polar. She would call me very kind wordsand nice. She would call 2 hours later and sound like a PITBULL I was talking to. She was Christian. I iknow people, and I myself in the past as Chrisitans have done weird things opposite of being a Christian, faith in GOD's WORD because of FEAR. BIPOLAR makes people do strange, FEAR makes people do strange. Let's treat them the same. How would you minister to a CHRISTIAN WITH FEAR? Lest do the same to folks with BI-POLAR. Let's be sensitive to the person who has bi-polar because of your unbelief that caused feqar in your past also. Am I making sense?

 

[moment_of_faith]

Unbelievers basically think of themself as god. The devil is controlling them and the medicine just makes their belief / their illusion

 

[moment_of_faith]

There it is. See you know you have done wrong and you repent and most of the time tell people you are sorry. Bipolar people don't. Even though they may feel guilty about what they did, but really don't say I'm sorry. It is all about them, because that demon has them and is doing the talking and they have no need to repent or say sorry.


Embarrassment/Shame/Guilt: The possessed individual might be embarrassed by his or her uncontrolled behaviors if he or she becomes aware of them.

See I have felt the same way, but I managed to get Jesus out my mouth and every time I'm under spiritual attack and that can be Embarrassment/Shame/Guilt I start saying Jesus " See I believe that's like a jab and it’s made to back the demon / Satan off long enough to repent that sin.

Then you get a chance to get your armor on / get suited up for battle.

Then the next thing is I repent that sin, because once it is giving to Jesus it is history never to be brought up again. So when the devil starts messing with you about it you tell him it was given to Jesus and it has been forgiven of me and if he has a problem to take it up with Jesus. Jesus owns that now.

Therefore putting your faith in Jesus and what he said.

NOW PAY ATTENTION

If not then this builds and weighs on a person until they go crazy/ delusional / anxiety / fear and so on – bipolar / demon / spiritual attack

I say repent your sins. Come Clean. And have faith

THE KEY TO IT ALL

Therefore putting your faith in Jesus and what he said.



Also the more I learn / the more I stand on faith / stand firm in it the more I have faith the less fear I have, but fear is also a good thing. It keeps us sharp, alert, ready, but Jesus tells us to armor up.

I have a lot more to say but this book is big enough

 

[Mediate]

To be honest mate, you don't make any sense.

 

[moment_of_faith]

Unbelievers think of themself as god. They say in one way or the other it is no god. They have studied all religions, science, or maybe haven't even thought about it at all " Which means it's all about them and they don't have time to study that ". Whichever but what they are truly saying is that they are above GOD therefore making themselves god in the own hearts / minds ..

So they are living their illusion

 

[DesertJoe]

Moment of Faith.... Just who are you edifying with this post that condemns others? Have you not read in Matthew 16:6 "Be careful," Jesus said to them. "Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees." If you are truly concerned about people with bi-polar disorder, why aren't you out ministering to them? Be careful who you cast that word "demon" on. Let me give you some scripture "But the Pharisees said, "It is by the prince of demons that he drives out demons" (Matthew 16:6). In stead of speaking death on people as you are here, you need to repent and start speaking life into people. I will pray that you will be dilivered of the religious spirit that is leading you in your condemnation of others.

 

[damombomb]

2 Cor10:5
Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

 

[moment_of_faith]

I'm just a concern person that is seeking knowledge so maybe I can help someone, but not even taking what I'm saying into consideration I believe to be a major flaw / mistake
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Jesus tells us drug use will go through the roof and it would be ministered by pharmacies. That is what we are seeing. Pharmaceuticals numbers are way up and then it is for mental people, so people can live their illusions

 

[Mediate]

2 Cor10:5
Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

Give that whole script, please.

 

[Mediate]

moment I'm sorry but this is really quite ridiculous. I take medication to balance the imbalance of chemicals in my brain.

And they work.

Without them, I'd sit in my house with agoraphobia. I'd be withdrawn, depressed and parts of my brain would burn out from excess dopamine.

That's the simple truth.

Scans show it. Brain tests show it. Medication and a change in symptoms proves it.

Mental illness is an illness. Not a possession.

 

[moment_of_faith]

Coming from one who does not accept Jesus as lord and savior. Proven my original statement. I'm sorry to say it so bluntly but it does.

 

[pitts288]

Moment of faith please think about this
A person can only accept Jesus by accepting what his life, death and resurrection teaches us, NOT JUST HIS DEATH. YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT HIS LIFE, death, AND RESURRECTION. THE RESURRECTION BEING THE MOST IMPORTANT PART. Accepting his resurrection means completely walking away from wilfully sin. When I tell you to walk away from sin...i am simply telling you to move from Jesus death to his resurrection. I do believe that Jesus is the way. I just believe you have to accept all of Jesus.

 

[moment_of_faith]

No one can walk away from sin. We can't help it. It's in our nature

That's why Jesus is the ONLY WAY

 

[Brandon777]

To answer your question, no, because the disease is a neurological impairment. But I do believe demons have an easier time with the weakened mind in victims with bipolar, schizophrenia, or from taking hallucinogens like LSD, because I've experienced two bouts of psychosis (neurologically induced insanity). I've been saved for 20 years, and I discovered I had this genetic disorder when I was sixteen with the onset of my first manic episode (look up mania), like most people with bipolar I do when they're 16. There is bipolar I, II, and III. Bipolar I is more common in males, and III in females, my mom has three, it's much less severe and has different symptoms. After much thought on the subject, I'm not convinced that the physical world and the spiritual influence are not interwoven. I think about how certain drug substances can have a negative spiritual influence on humans. Think about it, have you ever seen a drunk person help an old lady cross the street? Other than the technicality that it might be more hazardous than helpful, you get what I'm saying. It's the same with pot heads, and the like.

Sunlight therapy is not effective treatment for bipolar patients; it is however effective treatment for people with major depressive disorder, and there are even lights that simulate sunlight for people who need it that they can buy for areas that are usually cloudy. I agree that many children drug fixes are just money makers and many doctors are so busy that they skim by what the symptoms are and slap on a prescription, like what happened to me. What's equally as dangerous is a doctor that takes medication away from someone who actually needs it for normal functioning, like me. I went insane because I had a lazy doctor that didn't bother studying why I was labeled bipolar in the first place.

Moment. That numbness that they feel is the feeling that healthy, normally functioning people have every day. Try describing your feelings about life events to other people with bipolar and they will look at you like you're crazy, because it sounds more like a dramatic poem. Have you ever thought you were someone famous? Do you have suicidal thoughts often? Do you have trouble sleeping when your happy? Do you ever feel the environment around you changing? People with bipolar often take years before they're convinced anything is wrong with them because one of the symptoms is grandiosity (look it up). The symptoms you listed for possession are not the same as bipolar.

Also. Moment. I'm with Elizabeth. You're trolling.

 

[moment_of_faith]

Brandon do you accept Jesus christ as your lord and savior?

 

[Digital_Angel_316]

I think there is a valid point and a very valid concern in differentiating between understanding DEMONS as a ROOT of modified behavior, and condemning a person who has perhaps come under the influences of these demons. The world is filled with the spirits 'of man' (De-Mon), things that appeal to ID and EGO. The untrained, unrestrained mind reacts to these desires and cravings and falls into a trap. Sometimes a person soon recognizes these traps for what they are, wises up and not only rejects them, but shares with others as a warning -- this is what I would hope the intent of this thread is - to reprove the unfruitful works of the darkness. The 'good news' is, that understanding the natural tendencies of man (as we understand through scriptural principles), we can avoid or overcome these tendencies by learning, understanding, living and sharing these precepts of Right Living in the system of The Way - Jesus, The Way.

Jesus did indeed cast out demons, and gave the power to his disciples. A power not to be shirked, nor taken lightly. We understand that some demons might only be cast out through prayer and fasting. We understand that once swept out, the person needs to be filled with an understanding of the precepts of right living and the warnings against flesh and self that are taught by Jesus and his disciples in scripture. This filling with right mindedness, having attained the right view, is what Paul is speaking to when he implores ... be ye transformed by .... ?? ... anyone remember what?? ...

Be ye transformed by _ _ _ ... _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ... _ _... _ _ _ _... _ _ _ _.

 

[Elizabeth619]

Brandon do you accept Jesus christ as your lord and savior?

You do realize that Christians will be tempted by Satan, right? He will go after us harder than a nonbeliever because we do not belong to him.

 

[Ugly]

I'm a Christian who has suffered depression, i had a close Christian friend with bipolar. We spent hours and hours discussing not only our own mental illnesses, but mental illness in general in the light of our faith. Also we read on psychology, and she was actually going to school for psychiatry, and then switched to neurology. All in all, we could not find any indicator that mental illness seems to be inherently a demonic possession. We live in a fallen world, we live in bodies that break, as well as minds.

Also, bipolar is not only about sudden mood swings, these swings in moods can be short, but in some cases they can last months. I read one story of a bipolar woman whose mania manifested in shopping. She would get wired up and manic, not hardly sleep, and shop, shop, shop. This would last a month or two. Then the bills start coming in, this would pull her out of her mania and into a depression. She would spend months paying off the bills. And once she felt free from the burden of the bills, she would swing back to a shopping manic episode. Her swings were months, not minutes.

Or look at the best treatment for schizophrenics. In 'modernized' society, schizo's are drugged, locked up, made fun of, mistreated, homeless, and often don't work. But going to third world counties, schizo's are often treated that they are still expected to produce for themselves and function in society. They are expected to work and be a part of the community. Third would counties have higher recovery rates of schizo than 'modernized' countries. Would that really have an effect on possession? The only time third world counties may encourage the schizo, and possibly eventually to be possessed is when they dictate a schizo as a shaman.

It just doesn't add up that mental illness and possession go hand in hand at all times.