Parents protect your kids!

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eugenius

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Well Family guy and etc are not meant for kids. It specifically says so. Its meant for people 14 and older. Other than that, have a sense of humor.

But yea I totally agree that kids should not be allowed to watch any of these shows EVER.

Also I hate the obvious anti-christian episodes. I just never watch those. But there is plenty of funny stuff there if you ignore those.
 

leelee

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I agree that many of the programmes cited are not suitable for children in any way but totally aside from that i think the best way to protect children is to allow them to understand, you cannot hide them away from everything you do not like or believe in and i personally think all that it will achieve is making them more curious. they are more likely to go looking than if you allow them to see and explain after that for example, Homer had to wear the dress because he got so unhealthy and fat he could not wear any other clothes.
 

hellopeople

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I agree that many of the programmes cited are not suitable for children in any way but totally aside from that i think the best way to protect children is to allow them to understand, you cannot hide them away from everything you do not like or believe in and i personally think all that it will achieve is making them more curious. they are more likely to go looking than if you allow them to see and explain after that for example, Homer had to wear the dress because he got so unhealthy and fat he could not wear any other clothes.
I disagree with the reason as to why, there needs to be a fine division on man being man and women being women, as well as clothing wise, many people don't see why wearing high heels or woman's clothing even for a joke is a bad thing, these things push forward the agenda of cross dressing, they add these things with humour to make it more swallowable.

Movies like:

  • Big Momma
  • to wong foo thanks for everything julie newmar
  • Mrs. Doubtfire
  • She's the man

and much more

things very thing bring confusion to a child's identity, let us not be ignorant to the spiritual aspect of all this.

As we've heard prayer moves mountains, we pray for our kids aswell.
 
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Daniel94

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I disagree with the reason as to why, there needs to be a fine division on man being man and women being women, as well as clothing wise, many people don't see why wearing high heels or woman's clothing even for a joke is a bad thing, these things push forward the agenda of cross dressing, they add these things with humour to make it more swallowable.

Movies like:

  • Big Momma
  • to wong foo thanks for everything julie newmar
  • Mrs. Doubtfire
  • She's the man

and much more

things very thing bring confusion to a child's identity, let us not be ignorant to the spiritual aspect of all this.

As we've heard prayer moves mountains, we pray for our kids aswell.
Big Momma he was going undercover for his job. Mrs. Doubtfire, he dressed as a woman to be a nanny to be with his kids. She's the Man, she wanted to play soccer and the boys team would not allow her to join. I have no idea what the second is. Anyways, my point is though these movies weren't released idea of making people cross dressing rather humor. Just because I watch a movie where someone cross dresses does not mean I am going to go and raid my mother's closet.
 
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quakerzen

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My parents let me watch whatever I wanted (obviously besides EXTREMELY graphic shows) and I never had a problem. Maybe some people are more secure in their morals and faith but I've enjoyed many violent shows like Buffy and Law & Order SVU, and I've never been affected by such things, even when I was younger. I know those aren't shows geared towards children but it was an example.
 

ForthAngel

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good post OP. also noticed in spongebob that in several episodes the eye of horus is hidden in the background or put blatantly in view. the homosexual theme is pretty blatant as well. family guy mocks Jesus in nearly every episode.
 

ForthAngel

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Big Momma he was going undercover for his job. Mrs. Doubtfire, he dressed as a woman to be a nanny to be with his kids. She's the Man, she wanted to play soccer and the boys team would not allow her to join. I have no idea what the second is. Anyways, my point is though these movies weren't released idea of making people cross dressing rather humor. Just because I watch a movie where someone cross dresses does not mean I am going to go and raid my mother's closet.
it may not affect a mature mind in the same way as one that is developing. psychological studies prove that gender mis-identification can be caused by confusion as a child. Seeing your favorite cartoon characters dressing as women might be a little confusing when everyone else they see does not do this. Also you have to consider the power of symbolism to human beings. We are influenced more than people realize subconsciously by symbols. Look up advertising and how they target people. Not to mention EVERYTHING has a symbol. Countries have flags identifying them, every product has a symbol for it, every company has an icon. We symbolize everything and this symbolism can work to alter how we think, however unnoticble. It's up for debate if children can be affected subconsciously by something they don't yet consciously understand, but I believe it does affect them and their perceptions of the world as they grow.

Someone mentioned looking at this from a spiritual perspective. This is absolutely true. This symbolism and confusing material is part of spiritual warfare. It's a brainwashing mechanism designed by the powers and principalities to pollute the minds of men, and they are getting to our children at a very young age.
 

Blain

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im sry but there is corruption everywhere you go the only way can protect you kids is if you keep them in a cage for the rest of their lives,there is some decipline as a parent but you do too much of it and that will only make them want to do it more and trust me there are many ways to do anything and they will find it. Also kid's arent stupid ppl say that t.v influences their minds some of this is true but like I said they arent stupid. If anyone tries to protect thier kids from corruption they will make it where the kids have no lives, no friends and they will be robots.
 

ForthAngel

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You make a good point Blain. You can't hide them from the world, that is why you have to instill the right values as best you can as soon as you can. The parents have more power of their child's mind than these types of things do, but think about all the misguided children who aren't able to depend on their parents for this reinforcement.
 
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Daniel94

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it may not affect a mature mind in the same way as one that is developing. psychological studies prove that gender mis-identification can be caused by confusion as a child. Seeing your favorite cartoon characters dressing as women might be a little confusing when everyone else they see does not do this. Also you have to consider the power of symbolism to human beings. We are influenced more than people realize subconsciously by symbols. Look up advertising and how they target people. Not to mention EVERYTHING has a symbol. Countries have flags identifying them, every product has a symbol for it, every company has an icon. We symbolize everything and this symbolism can work to alter how we think, however unnoticble. It's up for debate if children can be affected subconsciously by something they don't yet consciously understand, but I believe it does affect them and their perceptions of the world as they grow.

Someone mentioned looking at this from a spiritual perspective. This is absolutely true. This symbolism and confusing material is part of spiritual warfare. It's a brainwashing mechanism designed by the powers and principalities to pollute the minds of men, and they are getting to our children at a very young age.
You totally missed my first post where I said I watched some of these shows growing up. Spongebob was my favorite cartoon at one point. I watched it in elementary school, middle school, and even high school. I still sometimes watch it today. My point is I am not cross dressing. Most kids probably don't understand these so called hidden meanings in cartoons anyways. This is just like the subliminal messages in the Disney movies where stupid teenagers pause the movie and use the zoom button on their remote to zoom in and try to find the word sex hidden in smoke, water, etc. Let me ask you this what majority of kids with a real life do this? What majority of kids actually pay attention to the water when the little mermaid is singing? Chances are they are watching the singing mermaid rather than the splashing waves or bubbles.

Also if you don't want your kids to be influenced by TV you better home school them. TV is a hot topic in schools. Talk about cartoons and such. Also kids nowadays can just watch it or something worse on the Internet. Teachers show movies all the time and if I am not mistaken PG movies can be shown without a permission slip. I am not positive on that though, cause it has been awhile since I took home a permission for a movie seeing as I have already graduated. Kids are also smarter when it comes to technology. They can find a way around the schools firewall so that they may access things they are not suppose to. I have seen it multiple times.
 

ForthAngel

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You totally missed my first post where I said I watched some of these shows growing up. Spongebob was my favorite cartoon at one point. I watched it in elementary school, middle school, and even high school. I still sometimes watch it today. My point is I am not cross dressing. Most kids probably don't understand these so called hidden meanings in cartoons anyways. This is just like the subliminal messages in the Disney movies where stupid teenagers pause the movie and use the zoom button on their remote to zoom in and try to find the word sex hidden in smoke, water, etc. Let me ask you this what majority of kids with a real life do this? What majority of kids actually pay attention to the water when the little mermaid is singing? Chances are they are watching the singing mermaid rather than the splashing waves or bubbles.

Also if you don't want your kids to be influenced by TV you better home school them. TV is a hot topic in schools. Talk about cartoons and such. Also kids nowadays can just watch it or something worse on the Internet. Teachers show movies all the time and if I am not mistaken PG movies can be shown without a permission slip. I am not positive on that though, cause it has been awhile since I took home a permission for a movie seeing as I have already graduated. Kids are also smarter when it comes to technology. They can find a way around the schools firewall so that they may access things they are not suppose to. I have seen it multiple times.
I haven't disagreed with anything you've said. It's not impossible that confusing messages can impact a kid in some way though. By no means every kid. But let me ask you this. Do you have kids? If you do, would you be happy if you found out the cartoon you have been letting them watch for years had occult symbols embedded in the background? Do you believe that the occult has any power in the world, or is it just a bunch of new age whackos practicing some obscure religion? Do you believe in occult magick? Do you believe that satan is the ruler of this world and has power we might not fully grasp the magnitude of? I believe in all of these. You cannot believe in Jesus but deny the existence of these other powers. It amazes me how many christians today do this. There are forces of evil that are not man-man or influenced by man. This is an obscure concept for MOST christians. They don't understand how spiritual influence is carried out through occult symbolism and ritual. Aside from the cross-dressing, which is trivial, I am more concerned about the symbols being portrayed in cartoons. I will give you some examples.
Illuminati and freemason symbols in cartoons and Children movies - YouTube
It is evident in music as well.
THE MASONIC MUSIC INDUSTRY & THE OCCULT by A_Lawrence Part1 (NEW EXCLUSIVE DVD) - YouTube
I am not advising you to do this, but if you ever study occult practice, you learn that these types of symbols are used in rituals to invoke spirits. Do you believe people can invoke spirits? If you don't then I would suggest doing some research.
 

ForthAngel

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By the way. I don't agree with all comentary in the videos, but the symbolism is made pretty clear.
 

Nautilus

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I haven't disagreed with anything you've said. It's not impossible that confusing messages can impact a kid in some way though. By no means every kid. But let me ask you this. Do you have kids? If you do, would you be happy if you found out the cartoon you have been letting them watch for years had occult symbols embedded in the background? Do you believe that the occult has any power in the world, or is it just a bunch of new age whackos practicing some obscure religion? Do you believe in occult magick? Do you believe that satan is the ruler of this world and has power we might not fully grasp the magnitude of? I believe in all of these. You cannot believe in Jesus but deny the existence of these other powers. It amazes me how many christians today do this. There are forces of evil that are not man-man or influenced by man. This is an obscure concept for MOST christians. They don't understand how spiritual influence is carried out through occult symbolism and ritual. Aside from the cross-dressing, which is trivial, I am more concerned about the symbols being portrayed in cartoons. I will give you some examples.
Illuminati and freemason symbols in cartoons and Children movies - YouTube
It is evident in music as well.
THE MASONIC MUSIC INDUSTRY & THE OCCULT by A_Lawrence Part1 (NEW EXCLUSIVE DVD) - YouTube
I am not advising you to do this, but if you ever study occult practice, you learn that these types of symbols are used in rituals to invoke spirits. Do you believe people can invoke spirits? If you don't then I would suggest doing some research.
Well since i think the whole symbols thing and occult/mumbojumbo/illuminati stuff like that is in general a load of crap i would have no problem with my kids watching it. Oh no an eyeball, must be the illuminati. Yeah right, get real
 

Blain

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Wasn't it jesus who told us to not worry about everyday life? worrying can influence your mind more then a thing such as symbolism. freaking out about cartoons to protect your kids and such will only make you worry about it more and thus forming a closed minded bird nest. don't get me wrong it isnt a bad thing to think about now and then but don't let it consume you. Also about the discussion about asking if we had kids, that wasn't really the question you were asking was it? the question was probably how would you know what I am talking about if you don't have kids?! well i believe Jesus also said something about how the wise can become wiser. No one is ever going to be great at parenting so we have to be open minded and take advice even if we think we are in the right. Honestly and forgive me if this is rude if we are freaking out about such things what are we accomplishing? Are we truly worried about our kids or just what we believe is wrong? this thread may have started out as seeking help but it has everyone arguing about it and everyone pushing their own agendas on each other heck even I am guilty of that. can we honestly tell our kids and push these things on them when we probably did the same and even worse things?
 
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oracle2world

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Kids will have to grow up and deal with this sooner or later. I think mine knew the difference between TV and reality.

That being said, there have been far worse TV scenes approved for adult broadcast TV. They even grossed me out.
 
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Daniel94

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I haven't disagreed with anything you've said. It's not impossible that confusing messages can impact a kid in some way though. By no means every kid. But let me ask you this. Do you have kids? If you do, would you be happy if you found out the cartoon you have been letting them watch for years had occult symbols embedded in the background? Do you believe that the occult has any power in the world, or is it just a bunch of new age whackos practicing some obscure religion? Do you believe in occult magick? Do you believe that satan is the ruler of this world and has power we might not fully grasp the magnitude of? I believe in all of these. You cannot believe in Jesus but deny the existence of these other powers. It amazes me how many christians today do this. There are forces of evil that are not man-man or influenced by man. This is an obscure concept for MOST christians. They don't understand how spiritual influence is carried out through occult symbolism and ritual. Aside from the cross-dressing, which is trivial, I am more concerned about the symbols being portrayed in cartoons. I will give you some examples.
Illuminati and freemason symbols in cartoons and Children movies - YouTube
It is evident in music as well.
THE MASONIC MUSIC INDUSTRY & THE OCCULT by A_Lawrence Part1 (NEW EXCLUSIVE DVD) - YouTube
I am not advising you to do this, but if you ever study occult practice, you learn that these types of symbols are used in rituals to invoke spirits. Do you believe people can invoke spirits? If you don't then I would suggest doing some research.
I really don't see how the cross dressing is trivial when that was what the OP was about. His whole focus was on the teachings of cross dressing and homosexuality in cartoons.

Once again though at some point in my life I have watched all the shows on your Illuminati video. Guess what. Illuminati is NOT what was going through my head when I watched those shows. As I have previously said it was just a bunch of stupid cartoons that I thought were funny/interesting depending on the show. I went through the whole Pokemon/Digimon/Yu-Gi-Oh stages so I watched all of those. I even had a pile of Pokemon/Yu-Gi-OH cards. Once again though I am not Illuminati. Honestly, what's next? Accusing Pokemon of teaching evolution? The little guys do evolve, but only after some hardcore training.

If I had kids I wouldn't give a load of crap if what they were watching had hidden things in it cause I bet they wouldn't recognize it or know what it is. You are giving the creators and kids more credit than they deserve. Chances are your kids won't notice that stuff unless someone points it out to them for what it is. Though I don't know how Mike Wazowski from Monsters Inc. is Illuminati....



or B.O.B. from Monsters VS Aliens...



Look I am sorry, but all this just seems so ridiculous to me and it seems like a big waste of time.
 
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I don’t think the answer to this can be put in rules, only in understanding how minds develop.

When children “lose themselves” in what they are watching a part of the brain is absorbing the ideas being presented on a deep level called by some the subconscious. A brain that has absorbed certain principles on a deep level will sort out what is being taught, those without this will accept and act on what they are watching.

There is also the nervous excitement that most movies and TV teaches, even the good programs. They are based on fast paced excitement, not on quiet reasoning poise.
 
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What your seeing isn't suggestive anything, its just cheap writing. Moving a character out of one comfortable scenario, into a uncomfortable one, and showing their disdain is a typical way to get a rise out of children. That is because they know that guys shouldn't be in a woman's clothes, therefore proving that the children know this isn't right. Would it hurt to give kids a little credit? Its better for them to know the difference then it is for them to be hid and unable to deal with a situation or to know if it is right or wrong.

Also, Family Guy and The Simpsons are adult. Not for children, so I don't get why they are on here.
 
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After reading some of the posts I was reminded of when my son was around 1-2 and he started to get into mischief, which was not like him. I couldn't figure out what I was doing that was triggering it until one moring we were sitting watching curious George and he got down from the couch and did something naughty while watching the show. A big light bulb went off and we stopped watching the cartoon, and would you believe his behavior changed almost instantly. Ever since then we have been careful on what is on any screen.

My kids are 10, 8, 21/2, and none are rebellious, or in disagreement. They know God wants us to be selective with our tongues, minds, and ears. They rarely ever like something that would be considered bad by gods word. On that rare occasion one might say I would think that movie or show would be really good if blank weren't in there.

I think sheltering with knowledge and empowerment are the best things for my kids. They impress me with there choices toward worldy things, so I must be doing something right.
 
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Daniel94

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I don’t think the answer to this can be put in rules, only in understanding how minds develop.

When children “lose themselves” in what they are watching a part of the brain is absorbing the ideas being presented on a deep level called by some the subconscious. A brain that has absorbed certain principles on a deep level will sort out what is being taught, those without this will accept and act on what they are watching.

There is also the nervous excitement that most movies and TV teaches, even the good programs. They are based on fast paced excitement, not on quiet reasoning poise.
So are you saying that when I watched those shows my subconscious brain knew I was being taught Illuminati? The brain can only sort out things it knows. If it sees a symbol that relates to Illuminati then it doesn't file it under the Illuminati category when it has no knowledge of Illuminati. As for acting on what is being watched I have many times acted on shows I have watched. I have become a super hero among the Justice League. I have lived in Bikini Bottom with Spongebob as my neighbor. I have become a wizard with Harry Potter...actually I have become Harry Potter.(Oddly enough when that came out the kid on the book looked like me. I wore circular glasses and had a scar on my forehead, not in a lightning bolt though :( ) My point is I have acted on many things I have watched(emotions too). Guess what though. I was using my imagination and nothing more.

Also, last I checked children have some of the worst attention spans which is why most shows are fast paced. Not many children will watch something that takes forever to progress. That is why many shows have failed, well that and the fact that they were just horrible and not in the least bit funny, interesting, etc.

Though, going on your post, if your child reacts badly to one show then don't let them watch that show. As long as they can still tell the difference in right and wrong and know what reality is I see no problem.
 
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