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Re: What to do when atheiests attack you with questions and "proof"god dosent exist e
So, this is how you evangelize? Telling everyone to become Christian or go to hell? That brings on mockery and false conversions. Give me one please in acts where he'll is used as an evangelization method. Name ONE verse.
So, this is how you evangelize? Telling everyone to become Christian or go to hell? That brings on mockery and false conversions. Give me one please in acts where he'll is used as an evangelization method. Name ONE verse.
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Re: What to do when atheiests attack you with questions and "proof"god dosent exist e
No, I speak to people as individuals. Jesus for example, was rougher with Pharisees than the woman at the well. I speak as I think I am lead.
I am mocked regardless of what I say. It is the life of a Christian.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnL8L7LJC9I[/video]
False conversions come from many sources. The two most common in America are the Sinner's Prayer, and Baptismal Regeneration(practiced by Lutherans).
Can a false conversion come from it? Yes. False conversions can come from nearly anything. The problem was never the seed, it's the soil. The Parable of the Sower states this.
You are engaging in an unscriptural practice. You are attempting to limit doctrine to one book, and that is a gross error.
Acts 24:25
25 As Paul talked about righteousness, self-control and the judgment to come, Felix was afraid and said, “That’s enough for now! You may leave. When I find it convenient, I will send for you.”
Acts 10
39 “We are witnesses of everything he did in the country of the Jews and in Jerusalem. They killed him by hanging him on a cross, 40 but God raised him from the dead on the third day and caused him to be seen. 41 He was not seen by all the people, but by witnesses whom God had already chosen—by us who ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead. 42 He commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is the one whom God appointed as judge of the living and the dead. 43 All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”
Hell's Best Kept Secret - Evangelist Ray Comfort www.LivingWaters.com <--- for you
No, I speak to people as individuals. Jesus for example, was rougher with Pharisees than the woman at the well. I speak as I think I am lead.
I am mocked regardless of what I say. It is the life of a Christian.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnL8L7LJC9I[/video]
False conversions come from many sources. The two most common in America are the Sinner's Prayer, and Baptismal Regeneration(practiced by Lutherans).
Can a false conversion come from it? Yes. False conversions can come from nearly anything. The problem was never the seed, it's the soil. The Parable of the Sower states this.
You are engaging in an unscriptural practice. You are attempting to limit doctrine to one book, and that is a gross error.
Acts 24:25
25 As Paul talked about righteousness, self-control and the judgment to come, Felix was afraid and said, “That’s enough for now! You may leave. When I find it convenient, I will send for you.”
Acts 10
39 “We are witnesses of everything he did in the country of the Jews and in Jerusalem. They killed him by hanging him on a cross, 40 but God raised him from the dead on the third day and caused him to be seen. 41 He was not seen by all the people, but by witnesses whom God had already chosen—by us who ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead. 42 He commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is the one whom God appointed as judge of the living and the dead. 43 All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”
Hell's Best Kept Secret - Evangelist Ray Comfort www.LivingWaters.com <--- for you
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Re: What to do when atheiests attack you with questions and "proof"god dosent exist e
The reality of the situation is different to a reason for conversion.
and yet, should you hide the reality of the situation.
Which is standard of truth
Man's or Scripture
Answer: God
Assuming the atheist can presuppose an All seeing benevolent God
What standard do you use, to acknowledge God's standard (Scripture A, B or C etc). Man's standard?
The discussion was weighted at the start when dealing with atheists, you can't start with the presupposition of a God, all this start does is to get you to question yourself.
The reality of the situation is different to a reason for conversion.
and yet, should you hide the reality of the situation.
Which is standard of truth
Man's or Scripture
Answer: God
Assuming the atheist can presuppose an All seeing benevolent God
What standard do you use, to acknowledge God's standard (Scripture A, B or C etc). Man's standard?
The discussion was weighted at the start when dealing with atheists, you can't start with the presupposition of a God, all this start does is to get you to question yourself.
Re: What to do when atheiests attack you with questions and "proof"god dosent exist e
The concept of a god, in the general sense, seems to be unfalsifiable. I don't think that there is anyway that atheists can prove that god does not exist. Though I admit that my position may be an argumentum ad ignorantiam.
The concept of a god, in the general sense, seems to be unfalsifiable. I don't think that there is anyway that atheists can prove that god does not exist. Though I admit that my position may be an argumentum ad ignorantiam.
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Re: What to do when atheiests attack you with questions and "proof"god dosent exist e
A: Tells them of jugment, not of hell, big difference (jews belive in jugment, yet not eternal hell)B: ok, they can come from anything, but pascal Christians are defiantly the biggest category C: I'll click the link
A: Tells them of jugment, not of hell, big difference (jews belive in jugment, yet not eternal hell)B: ok, they can come from anything, but pascal Christians are defiantly the biggest category C: I'll click the link
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Re: What to do when atheiests attack you with questions and "proof"god dosent exist e
According to Christianity, what is the judgement to come?
Nah, Sinner's Prayer is the biggest issue. Next would be the Baptismal Regeneration peeps, which typically are Lutherans who believed they're saved because they got baptized, and then you've got the worksy folk, and then the "might as well believe it" types that come somwehere almost on par with the worksy.
Good.
According to Christianity, what is the judgement to come?
Nah, Sinner's Prayer is the biggest issue. Next would be the Baptismal Regeneration peeps, which typically are Lutherans who believed they're saved because they got baptized, and then you've got the worksy folk, and then the "might as well believe it" types that come somwehere almost on par with the worksy.
Good.
Re: What to do when atheiests attack you with questions and "proof"god dosent exist e
The best thing to do in these types of situations is to use the word of God. When we try to discuss with a nonbeliever or someone who is confused, we tend to try to win them over with our own logic. Satan or a demon is working through them to shake your faith, and it talks in the Bible about not trying to have conversations with the Devil or demons. Only the word of God can help you, because they can't fight against it! Nothing can fight against the way, truth, and the life which is the word! Make sure, when you start up a conversation with these people and it starts getting deep, that you know your word so you can reference it, and know it from the top of your head. Even if you don't though, the holy ghost will provide you with the words to say. In the Bible it talks about not worrying about the words to say in this type of situation because they will be provided to you! Stay strong and don't let them shake you, because that's what they want. I've talked to quite a few Atheists and they are smart. You can't match them, no one can, because of their way of thinking. All you can do is tell them God's word that pertains to the situation or topic and let them make the choice on their own. Jesus never pressed himself on anyone, he simply informed them and left the choice up to them. Often times they don't want to be saved, or open their minds to God, they just want to argue. But, who knows? With God on your side, anything is possible! You only need the faith of a mustard seed, and being used as a vessel by God, we may be able to help plant it! Hope this helped. God bless!
The best thing to do in these types of situations is to use the word of God. When we try to discuss with a nonbeliever or someone who is confused, we tend to try to win them over with our own logic. Satan or a demon is working through them to shake your faith, and it talks in the Bible about not trying to have conversations with the Devil or demons. Only the word of God can help you, because they can't fight against it! Nothing can fight against the way, truth, and the life which is the word! Make sure, when you start up a conversation with these people and it starts getting deep, that you know your word so you can reference it, and know it from the top of your head. Even if you don't though, the holy ghost will provide you with the words to say. In the Bible it talks about not worrying about the words to say in this type of situation because they will be provided to you! Stay strong and don't let them shake you, because that's what they want. I've talked to quite a few Atheists and they are smart. You can't match them, no one can, because of their way of thinking. All you can do is tell them God's word that pertains to the situation or topic and let them make the choice on their own. Jesus never pressed himself on anyone, he simply informed them and left the choice up to them. Often times they don't want to be saved, or open their minds to God, they just want to argue. But, who knows? With God on your side, anything is possible! You only need the faith of a mustard seed, and being used as a vessel by God, we may be able to help plant it! Hope this helped. God bless!
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Re: What to do when atheiests attack you with questions and "proof"god dosent exist e
a: 3(main) divisions, dont know when
b: you mean the belief that saying the prayer saves you? I guess, but pascals wager is probly the main cause of that. because if someone was christian for reasons other then hell and heaven, they would do more then say the prayer, if they were christian because god deserves repentance, they would repent, if because they want to do Gods, who created them, will, they would obey, see, pascals wager doesnt lead to repentance, as their not actually sorry, their just saing sorry"just in case"
C:clicked the link, personally dont like the method, though i do not wish to debate you on that
a: 3(main) divisions, dont know when
b: you mean the belief that saying the prayer saves you? I guess, but pascals wager is probly the main cause of that. because if someone was christian for reasons other then hell and heaven, they would do more then say the prayer, if they were christian because god deserves repentance, they would repent, if because they want to do Gods, who created them, will, they would obey, see, pascals wager doesnt lead to repentance, as their not actually sorry, their just saing sorry"just in case"
C:clicked the link, personally dont like the method, though i do not wish to debate you on that
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Re: What to do when atheiests attack you with questions and "proof"god dosent exist e
THERE ARE MANY GOOD ANSWERS AND ALSO ANSWERS AS ONE IS LEAD BY THE HOLY SPIRIT. WHAT DO YOU DO IF A SO CALLED PERSON WHO SAYS THAT THEY ARE A BELIEVER, AND THE OPPOSITE GENDER, THAT PUTS YOU DOWN, AND BELITTLES YOU, AND DOSN'T SEEM CHRISTIAN AT ALL, SAYS INAPPROPRIATE THINGS, AND DABBLES IN CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHERS WHO ARE IN THE OCCULT, AND DOSN'T EVEN REALIZE THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE BEEN CAUGHT INTO THE CONFUSION AND THE CURRENET OF THE DEVIL. TO BELIEVE IN GOD BUT NOT TO ACT UPON THE WORD IS NO DIFFERENT THAN AN ATHIEST. DO YOU THAT THE WORD SAYS, SATAN ALSO BELIEVES THAT THERE IS A GOD, AND TREMBLES, BUT HE DOES NOT FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE WORDS OF OUR LORD GOD. SO DO YOU REPORT A SO CALLED TRUSTED MOD TO A MOD, WHOSE ACCUSED GOOD PEOPLE OF NOTHING BUT BEING JUST UGLY AND JEALOUS OF THEIR CHARACTER, AND THEIR BEING LIKED. I FIND SOME OF THIS SICK HUMOR AND OFFENSIVE, AND SOME OF THE SO CALLED ATHIESTS WOULD PUT SOME TO SHAME WHO PROCLAIM THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST. FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD, AND SO IS THE SPIRIT WITHOUT CHRIST. TO ANSWER THIS THOUGH, PRAY. PRAY, AND PRAY SOME MORE, TO BE LEAD BY THE HOLY SPIRIT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. TY FOR SHARING. GOD BLESS YOU.
THERE ARE MANY GOOD ANSWERS AND ALSO ANSWERS AS ONE IS LEAD BY THE HOLY SPIRIT. WHAT DO YOU DO IF A SO CALLED PERSON WHO SAYS THAT THEY ARE A BELIEVER, AND THE OPPOSITE GENDER, THAT PUTS YOU DOWN, AND BELITTLES YOU, AND DOSN'T SEEM CHRISTIAN AT ALL, SAYS INAPPROPRIATE THINGS, AND DABBLES IN CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHERS WHO ARE IN THE OCCULT, AND DOSN'T EVEN REALIZE THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE BEEN CAUGHT INTO THE CONFUSION AND THE CURRENET OF THE DEVIL. TO BELIEVE IN GOD BUT NOT TO ACT UPON THE WORD IS NO DIFFERENT THAN AN ATHIEST. DO YOU THAT THE WORD SAYS, SATAN ALSO BELIEVES THAT THERE IS A GOD, AND TREMBLES, BUT HE DOES NOT FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE WORDS OF OUR LORD GOD. SO DO YOU REPORT A SO CALLED TRUSTED MOD TO A MOD, WHOSE ACCUSED GOOD PEOPLE OF NOTHING BUT BEING JUST UGLY AND JEALOUS OF THEIR CHARACTER, AND THEIR BEING LIKED. I FIND SOME OF THIS SICK HUMOR AND OFFENSIVE, AND SOME OF THE SO CALLED ATHIESTS WOULD PUT SOME TO SHAME WHO PROCLAIM THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST. FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD, AND SO IS THE SPIRIT WITHOUT CHRIST. TO ANSWER THIS THOUGH, PRAY. PRAY, AND PRAY SOME MORE, TO BE LEAD BY THE HOLY SPIRIT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. TY FOR SHARING. GOD BLESS YOU.
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Re: What to do when atheiests attack you with questions and "proof"god dosent exist e
BE VERY CAREFUL TALKING WITH THEM I GOT 2 INFRACTION POINTS CAUSE I SAID TO ONE I WILL PRAY FOR YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU Even WHEN SHE ASKED FOR PRAYER FOR ME I WILL NOT TALK WITH THEM I LEAVE THAT TO OTHERS THEY R NOT HERE TO BE CHRISIAN I SEE THEM AS BEING sent here by satan,none of them i talked are interested in being christian,so why r they here to destroy the CHRISTAIAN FAITH OF ALL CC'ERS' AND THIS SITE I PERSONALLY SPIRITUALLY BELIEVE.
BE VERY CAREFUL TALKING WITH THEM I GOT 2 INFRACTION POINTS CAUSE I SAID TO ONE I WILL PRAY FOR YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU Even WHEN SHE ASKED FOR PRAYER FOR ME I WILL NOT TALK WITH THEM I LEAVE THAT TO OTHERS THEY R NOT HERE TO BE CHRISIAN I SEE THEM AS BEING sent here by satan,none of them i talked are interested in being christian,so why r they here to destroy the CHRISTAIAN FAITH OF ALL CC'ERS' AND THIS SITE I PERSONALLY SPIRITUALLY BELIEVE.
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Re: What to do when atheiests attack you with questions and "proof"god dosent exist e
i wont accept that i came from monkeys!!! ;-)
"The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our sons forever, that we may observe all the words of this law. deut.29:29...keep your faith!no need to debate...
i wont accept that i came from monkeys!!! ;-)
"The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our sons forever, that we may observe all the words of this law. deut.29:29...keep your faith!no need to debate...
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Re: What to do when atheiests attack you with questions and "proof"god dosent exist e
I have told them not to believe a thing I have to say to them but to ask
God directly and not to be shocked when he gave them an answer. It takes the fight right out of them. God tends to send a lot of them my way.
I have told them not to believe a thing I have to say to them but to ask
God directly and not to be shocked when he gave them an answer. It takes the fight right out of them. God tends to send a lot of them my way.
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Re: What to do when atheiests attack you with questions and "proof"god dosent exist e
Darwinism or The Evolutionary/Big Bang Theory is not Science. The idea that everything we see and do not see came from nothing by no one and that chaos some how became order by itself is absurd. Nothing produces nothing. Nothing has ever produced something. Explosions never create they destroy. When has destruction produced order? It is not logical.
Creation has a Creator.
Isaiah 40:28: Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, [that] the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? [there is] no searching of his understanding.
Hebrews 4:12: For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Darwinism or The Evolutionary/Big Bang Theory is not Science. The idea that everything we see and do not see came from nothing by no one and that chaos some how became order by itself is absurd. Nothing produces nothing. Nothing has ever produced something. Explosions never create they destroy. When has destruction produced order? It is not logical.
Creation has a Creator.
Isaiah 40:28: Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, [that] the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? [there is] no searching of his understanding.
Hebrews 4:12: For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
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Re: What to do when atheiests attack you with questions and "proof"god dosent exist e
Young Follower, your best defense is your very own Knowledge of what you know to be true in your heart. Amen to that. You are NOT going to change their minds, and you will be angered by their nonsense and rightly so, there is no way around that. The GOOD news is....You know the truth and NOONE can take that away from you. >>John 10:26-29 "But you do not believe, because you are not of MY Sheep, as I said to you. "MY Sheep hear MY Voice, and I Know Them, and They follow ME. "And I give Them eternal life, and They shall NEVER perish; neither shall ANYONE Snatch Them Out of MY Hand. "My Father, who HAS given THEM to ME, Is Greater than ALL, and noone is able to snatch them out of MY FATHERS HAND." >>>Rest in the Lord and HE WILL give YOU Comfort for your soul. Gods speed to you....Peace and Love
Young Follower, your best defense is your very own Knowledge of what you know to be true in your heart. Amen to that. You are NOT going to change their minds, and you will be angered by their nonsense and rightly so, there is no way around that. The GOOD news is....You know the truth and NOONE can take that away from you. >>John 10:26-29 "But you do not believe, because you are not of MY Sheep, as I said to you. "MY Sheep hear MY Voice, and I Know Them, and They follow ME. "And I give Them eternal life, and They shall NEVER perish; neither shall ANYONE Snatch Them Out of MY Hand. "My Father, who HAS given THEM to ME, Is Greater than ALL, and noone is able to snatch them out of MY FATHERS HAND." >>>Rest in the Lord and HE WILL give YOU Comfort for your soul. Gods speed to you....Peace and Love
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Re: What to do when atheiests attack you with questions and "proof"god dosent exist e
Woah woah woah okay im going to keep this short and simple. If you WANT scientific answers to prove the "scientific proof that God doesn't exist" FALSE you need to go to this link below. EVERYBODY and ANYBODY who wants to know the truth about evolution and all those fairy tales.
Here it is, FreeHovind - just click it and watch the video seminars they are very very interesting It will really open up your mind and will encourage and convince you that God is the Creator of all
Woah woah woah okay im going to keep this short and simple. If you WANT scientific answers to prove the "scientific proof that God doesn't exist" FALSE you need to go to this link below. EVERYBODY and ANYBODY who wants to know the truth about evolution and all those fairy tales.
Here it is, FreeHovind - just click it and watch the video seminars they are very very interesting
It will really open up your mind and will encourage and convince you that God is the Creator of all