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Don't we as believers under the new covenant have the Holy Spirit, who will bring to our remembrance the written word that we have been ,because Jesus has ascended to the Father? If we try to obey the commandments through the flesh there will be no justification and no godly righteousness and all those works produced in the flesh without the grace of God and the Holy Spirit will be nothing but wood, hay and stubble.
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Sorry to interupt you boys.........back to the original OP.
Are you suggesting (All that have stated this) that in Rev, when the beast and the false prophet are cast into the lake of fire, the bible is not referring to man but a system? Really? So then the man of sin that will be revealed in 2 Thess, is a system?
Are you suggesting (All that have stated this) that in Rev, when the beast and the false prophet are cast into the lake of fire, the bible is not referring to man but a system? Really? So then the man of sin that will be revealed in 2 Thess, is a system?
They all unite in their evil rebellion against Yahvah God and will bring forth the "beast" whom they believe is their saviour etc....
Everything that has come to pass is leading to the harvest... all empires, all religions that are not worshiping Yahvah God in Spirit and Truth through accepting Yahshua the Messiah into their hearts.
There is a difference between the "deceived" and the "deceivers"
Yahshua the Messiah came to shine the Light on the "deceived" so that they may see the darkness and be saved.
What many fail to see is that there are people that reject Yahvah God and seek to deceive others, they believe that he can be "defeated" and they can become " co-creator" "gods" etc...
They see the serpent has their "guide" their "god"......
Matthew 4
Look what satan offered in return for worship.. while Yahshua the Messiah refused him.. consider how many have accepted...
Scripture reveals all things......
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the beast is a kingdom, probably similar to the European common market or E.U.=European Union of 10 nations. The false prophet will be their leader & the E.U. is deciding right now whether to elect one president or not. The mark will be whatever the beast comes up with to use for currency on the hand, or forehead for old people & children.
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In Dan 7:17, Rev 4, rev 6:8 are referring to nations/kingdoms as beasts. However, other biblical beasts are animals. In Rev11:7 the beast coming out of the bottomless pit is satan.Rev 16 :13 describes "the dragon,...the beast... the false prophet" all having unclean spirits coming out of their mouth. This is 3 separate entities.
Rev 13:1 "...a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads & ten horns..." I believe this is referring to a combination/union of nations such as the E.U. having 27 nations now & several leaders/presidents, but they are attempting to elect just one leader. Verse 11 " And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon". 12-"...caused.. them.. to worship the 1st beast whose deadly wound was healed".Some people claim this is the false prophet talking about the roman empire which was demolished but is now the new revived roman empire in the E.U. Some claim the beast of the sea in verse one is the antichrist & he recieved a deadly wound. regardless the the beast of the earth in rev 13:11 is the false prophet who tells us to worship the 1st beast. Since the false prophet has 2 horns like a lamb, horns usually mean rulers/leaders, some may take this as another nation. I don't see how a nation could perform miracles, soverse 13 "...he doeth great wonders" shows it is not a nation yet has 2 horns. verse 14 15 go on to say he gave life to the statue/likeness of the 1st beast in verse 1 with 7 heads & 10 horns & 16"he caused all... to recieve a mark..." verse 18 "... it is the number of a man.." So some believe the false prophet( beast of the earth) is the antchrist & the beast with 10horns is a nation in verse 1.(the once dead & now alive revived roman empire which we see today). However, a lot of people also believe that verse 1 is referring to the nation of new roman empire, as well as it's new upcoming leader, the antichrist, with the false prophet barking out orders to worship the antchrist, all being spiritually led by the dragon, satan, culminating in the mockery of our belief in the trinity in God.
Rev 13:1 "...a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads & ten horns..." I believe this is referring to a combination/union of nations such as the E.U. having 27 nations now & several leaders/presidents, but they are attempting to elect just one leader. Verse 11 " And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon". 12-"...caused.. them.. to worship the 1st beast whose deadly wound was healed".Some people claim this is the false prophet talking about the roman empire which was demolished but is now the new revived roman empire in the E.U. Some claim the beast of the sea in verse one is the antichrist & he recieved a deadly wound. regardless the the beast of the earth in rev 13:11 is the false prophet who tells us to worship the 1st beast. Since the false prophet has 2 horns like a lamb, horns usually mean rulers/leaders, some may take this as another nation. I don't see how a nation could perform miracles, soverse 13 "...he doeth great wonders" shows it is not a nation yet has 2 horns. verse 14 15 go on to say he gave life to the statue/likeness of the 1st beast in verse 1 with 7 heads & 10 horns & 16"he caused all... to recieve a mark..." verse 18 "... it is the number of a man.." So some believe the false prophet( beast of the earth) is the antchrist & the beast with 10horns is a nation in verse 1.(the once dead & now alive revived roman empire which we see today). However, a lot of people also believe that verse 1 is referring to the nation of new roman empire, as well as it's new upcoming leader, the antichrist, with the false prophet barking out orders to worship the antchrist, all being spiritually led by the dragon, satan, culminating in the mockery of our belief in the trinity in God.
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The Great Dragon, representing Satan-the power behind the seven-headed wild beast, described in Revelations 13, is signified by the seven-crowns (political organizations) and ten-horns (completeness in a physical way to things on earth).-Luke 4:6; 1 John 5:19; 2 Corinthians 4:4; Ephesians 2:2; Revelations 13:1, 2.
The first beast, similar to the dragon, came from “the sea/waters” (mankind) as a significant political world powers. (Isaiah 17:12, 13; Revelations 17:15) Keep in mind that “beasts” are consistently used in the Bible as symbols of political governments. Compare the description of this beast to the beast described in Daniel’s vision.-Daniel 7:2-8; 7:17.
Revelations states that “five have fallen” of the nations that are represented by the seven headed beast, (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, and Greece). “One is” (Rome) and “one yet arrived.” The next world power-after the Roman Empire-is none other than Britain and its offshoot: the United States?-Revelations 17:9, 10.
Did not both of these countries become crippled and drained economically as a result of World War 1? However, they did revive and were healed. This was described as a “death stroke” to the seventh head of the beast. Later, reference to a “sword stroke” was used-which usually indicates warfare.-Revelations 13:3, 12, 14.
The two-horned wild beast arrived differently from the first wild beast. It ascended “out of the earth” meaning that it came out of Satan’s already established earthly system of things-a world power already in existence. The two horns “like a lamb” signify two political entities that make it out to be mild and inoffensive. The “beast” referred to as the “eighth king” at Revelations 17:11 also refers to the same entities: League of Nations and United Nations.-Revelations 13:11-13
The first beast, similar to the dragon, came from “the sea/waters” (mankind) as a significant political world powers. (Isaiah 17:12, 13; Revelations 17:15) Keep in mind that “beasts” are consistently used in the Bible as symbols of political governments. Compare the description of this beast to the beast described in Daniel’s vision.-Daniel 7:2-8; 7:17.
Revelations states that “five have fallen” of the nations that are represented by the seven headed beast, (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, and Greece). “One is” (Rome) and “one yet arrived.” The next world power-after the Roman Empire-is none other than Britain and its offshoot: the United States?-Revelations 17:9, 10.
Did not both of these countries become crippled and drained economically as a result of World War 1? However, they did revive and were healed. This was described as a “death stroke” to the seventh head of the beast. Later, reference to a “sword stroke” was used-which usually indicates warfare.-Revelations 13:3, 12, 14.
The two-horned wild beast arrived differently from the first wild beast. It ascended “out of the earth” meaning that it came out of Satan’s already established earthly system of things-a world power already in existence. The two horns “like a lamb” signify two political entities that make it out to be mild and inoffensive. The “beast” referred to as the “eighth king” at Revelations 17:11 also refers to the same entities: League of Nations and United Nations.-Revelations 13:11-13
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Well, there are two beast mentioned in Rev13. One is a political system, that gets its start from a hand full of nations, but it rises from all the peoples of the world the"" sea"" . after a deadly wound, that is healed by the dragon , the Dragon is Satan. thats simple. Here is in part , your answer : """ and alll, the world woundered after the beast."""
So there you have it, its all the world, the beast is, and who that harlet that rides that beast.t, who is that ? we just read it, all the ; "world wounders" after it."
what many people forget its Satan ( the Dragon ) that healed it ; they forget that 2nd Beast, in as much as the Dragon healed the first beast, that should give you the clue who is the 2nd Beast..
The 2nd Beast comes performing supernatural miracles , recorded in Rev 13. Read more of him in 2nd Thess chapter 2.
The beast is the whole world . all the world dose it. Because they are all ignorent of God's word They dont know who the 2nd Beast really is. The harlet rides the fake religion. its in the near future, and everyone is set for it, in a bad way though.
that is why Christ will return as a thief in the night, they will already think he is here. : (
So there you have it, its all the world, the beast is, and who that harlet that rides that beast.t, who is that ? we just read it, all the ; "world wounders" after it."
what many people forget its Satan ( the Dragon ) that healed it ; they forget that 2nd Beast, in as much as the Dragon healed the first beast, that should give you the clue who is the 2nd Beast..
The 2nd Beast comes performing supernatural miracles , recorded in Rev 13. Read more of him in 2nd Thess chapter 2.
The beast is the whole world . all the world dose it. Because they are all ignorent of God's word They dont know who the 2nd Beast really is. The harlet rides the fake religion. its in the near future, and everyone is set for it, in a bad way though.
that is why Christ will return as a thief in the night, they will already think he is here. : (
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