"True the Vote" under investigation for criminal conspiracy

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Tea Party Voter Suppression Group Under Investigation For Possible ‘Criminal Conspiracy’

By Aviva Shen on Oct 5, 2012 at 4:10 pm
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The Tea Party organization launching a multi-pronged voter suppression effort this election is under investigation by Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) for a possible “criminal conspiracy to deny legitimate voters their constitutional rights.”
Cummings sent a letter to True the Vote founder Catherine Engelbrecht warning her that the Ohio branch of the group, is suing to throw thousands of students, trailer park residents, homeless people and African Americans off the voting rolls, may be violating the law:
At some point, an effort to challenge voter registrations by the thousands without any legitimate basis may be evidence of illegal voter suppression. If these efforts are intentional, politically motivated and widespread across multiple states, they could amount to a criminal conspiracy to deny legitimate voters their constitutional rights.
True the Vote released a statement affirming their support for the Ohio voter purge advocates on Monday:
True the Vote stands by the well-intentioned efforts of these citizens and is disgusted by the attempts of some within government and media to warp what should have been a simple, legal process into a calculated partisan charade.
The most radical voter suppression efforts — including voter ID laws, voter purges, gerrymandered districts and restrictions on voter registration — have been killed in the courts or delayed til after the election. In many cases, judges concluded that minorities would be disproportionately affected by these efforts. Indeed, an analysis of the failed voter purge in Texas, True the Vote’s home state, found that African American and Latino names were much more likely to be flagged for removal, and African American districts received more letters questioning their eligibility to vote than any other districts.
Rather than rely soley on these initiatives, True the Vote is also mobilizing a national network of volunteer poll watchers to challenge and intimidate voters on Election Day. In light of the misinformation and questionable tactics disseminated in these volunteer trainings, Rep. Cummings is seeking “the data you have been using to challenge voter registrations, the training you have been providing volunteers to conduct these activities, and the manner in which you have been determining where to deploy your resources in select jurisdictions.”
Think Progress 10/24/2012


PS: The US state department has requested the UN to provide poll watchers for those areas where the True the Vote threatens to harass or otherwise prevent people from exercising their voting rights.
 
Why is it wrong to request an ID to vote? unless of course fraud is/was an issue?.............Acorn comes to mind. I think everyone needs an ID. and a birth certificate.
 
Most states issue voters ID's sent out by the state registrar of voters. They send them out to all registered voters that card should be all that is needed for a person to vote. That system produces a fraud free election. The type of hypothetical fraud where someone else votes for a person is so rare as to be virtually non-existent. Requiring photo ID is a solution searching for a problem. If the past system had proven it failed because of in person voter fraud then there might be a need for further ID's but there has been no need so far to do that. Demanding every voter get a photo ID can be a great burden and nearly impossible for some people. It can prevent those people from voting even if they had voted for the last 10 elections with no problem.
 
Apparently not so rare that a stranger can't get the ballot for Attorney General Eric Holder.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5p70YbRiPw[/video]
 
Maybe it is because I'm just a regular white guy living in middle class america but whenever someone has asked me for an ID, I produce it and then go about my business. No hassle, no big deal, no infringements, no law suits for harrasment.

Easy peasy.
 
I agree, I have my birth certificate and my ID. Why is that such a BIG DEAL unless you're hiding something. And if you can go vote...why cant you go to the post office and get a photo ID.

You see ACORN a group from 2008 of which Obama paid $800,000 to go out and find voters and register them to vote. These people took advantage of thier responsibility. Unfortunately these people registered voters that did not exist, 1000's of them !!!!This is STILL being investigated. Just like everything else suspicious going on.

Criminals ruin it for everyone.

If Micky Mouse is registered to Vote then Micky Mouse needs to have a photo ID. Common Sense goes out the window when people can"t understand laws are in place for a reason. Nothing racist about common sense.
 
However if someone showed up to vote and claimed they were Mickey Mouse would get laughed out of the polling place, sorry no voting here.

I wonder just how many men are actually named Eric Holder probably 1000's.
 
However if someone showed up to vote and claimed they were Mickey Mouse would get laughed out of the polling place, sorry no voting here.

I wonder just how many men are actually named Eric Holder probably 1000's.

How many people live at the address of Attorney General Eric Holder, and on video were recognized by the Attorney General as having obtained the ballot?

Either way, point reminds. 1000s of Eric Holders, or just. You can easily get a ballot that isn't yours.
 
Acorn ruined it for everyone. Lets blame the people who abuse the system . And not the ones trying to protect the system. Common sense again.
 
Unearthed! Obama’s twisted ACORN roots

if you do not want to read the entire history of Obama and acorn, read the 2008 and 2009 portion of it. This is why voter ID's are important. Because a group of people abuse a freedom.

ACORN became a hot topic during the 2008 presidential race because of Obama’s ties to the group as well as its own admission that more than 400,000 of the 1.3 million voter registrations it claimed to have collected were not valid. ACORN registered 1.3 million new voters last year, and it is now under investigation in numerous states and faces voter fraud charges in nearly two dozen states.
 
walkinginfaith drinks the special kool aid and gets the prize for the republican faithful. Goes down in history as a fool of the worst sort. Oh well
 
What if you don't have an ID?

And which voters don't normally have IDs?
 
exactly thegrungediva, why wouldn't a voter have an id? makes no sense to me at all
 
Celestemekent,:rolleyes: Why would you suddenly attack me ? hummm Interesting behavior you have....... not surprised at all.

One more comment on voter ID, In Texas if you get a job.... you have to show BirthCertificate, SS# and an ID. No one seems to take offense at that, because we want to work. We understand policies and procedures and respect them and obey them. We dont have a fit and try to find a reason on how they are unfair and blame people for them. Rules are in place to protect people not hurt people.
 
walkinginfaith drinks the special kool aid and gets the prize for the republican faithful. Goes down in history as a fool of the worst sort. Oh well

Matthew 5:22
But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca,' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.


I think it is best to be careful about who we call a fool.
 
exactly thegrungediva, why wouldn't a voter have an id? makes no sense to me at all

That is not what I said. What I said was, "What if you don't have an ID?" There are a lot of people who don't have picture IDs.

And then I asked, "And which voters don't usually have IDs?"

The most common form of ID would be a driver's license. So, if you happen to drive, you've got an ID. But if you don't drive, you won't have that particular form of ID. And what kind of people don't drive?

Well, many people who are very poor won't bother to get a driver's license, because they can't afford to buy a car, let alone the insurance. If you don't drive, you can get a state-issued ID that is like a driver's license, but those cost money, and generally require that you have two other forms of picture ID. So you need an ID to get an ID. So, again, someone who is very poor may not have the ID to start with, and may not be able to get this ID.

Also, elderly people, especially those who are infirm and can't get out of the house on their own, have no way of getting an ID.

Lots of people have no picture ID but still have the right to vote. Telling someone they have to get an ID in order to vote is a violation of their constitutional rights. Now, if you would like to see a constitutional amendment requiring photo IDs, there are ways to do this. It must be voted on and passed by both houses, and then if the president vetos it, there needs to be another vote in both houses. But hey, if it's that important to you, go for it.
 
How much do state ID cards cost? - DMV Answers <--link FYI. A state issued ID cost on average about $10. -$20.00:rolleyes:


if this effects you directly then I suggest you offer to help those who can not help themselves

1 TImothy 5:8 But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
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Stop complaining:mad: how it violates a persons freedom who cant afford to pay for an ID, it effects all of us when people abuse the system. :confused:

I think people who have a criminal record should loose the right to vote. Sow and Reap

----> ACORN’s fraud-ridden 2008 voter registration drive. In that drive, officials chucked an astounding 400,000:eek: bogus registrations.

Read more: ACORN leader avoids prison for voter fraud conspiracy | The Daily Caller
 
Acorn is Not a Hoax. You're funny for suggesting it is a hoax........

I worked face to face with Acorn program. I know all about them. LOL :rolleyes: They are also responsible for the many many foreclosed homes we keep seeing. They were directly involved in preditory lending and sub prime loans. hummmmm a hoax...yea right! Voter fraud is only a small portion of all the other things they have done.:rolleyes:
 
You know this whole story has been revealed to be a hoax? It's funny how this story about fraud is a case of fraud itself. Check out snopes.

Obama continues effort to distance himself from ACORN | RedState


October 2012 interview during Sunday’s talk show Obamarama, the President acted as though he barely knew about ACORN. In an exchange with George Stephanopoulos, Obama said that ACORN “deserves to be investigated,” but did not endorse recent votes in Congress to cut off ACORN’s federal funding but did not endorse recent votes in Congress to cut off ACORN’s federal funding:

Question: Would a Hoax, promote congress to cut off funding? No..:rolleyes:...LOL