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if you read the context, Jesus isn't speaking of after we die, He is talking about hearing His voice while we are alive.
Do you think a believer can be tormented by Satan telling him that "He's not good enough, therefore you can't be saved? might as well give it up and live a life full of your lustful desires" Satan is the accuser of the brethren is he not? Remember that Jesus goes after the 1 lost sheep.
Exactly. So why worry about who is saved and who isn't? He's coming for us all!
Does the Holy Spirit do this for you?
The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, (Romans 8:16)
No, because Jesus doesn't tell us to do this, if we hear Him, we obey Him and seek Him. OSAS is not a doctrine for continuing is willful sin.
Well, if JEsus goes after lost sheep and we can not lose our salvation, then what does it matter whether we sin or not?
This is the thing. It does matter.
The Holy Spirit is an attitude. An attitude like Jesus.
We need no longer worry about salvation. As Jesus said 'it is done'.
'You were called to be free, but do not use this freedom to indulge the flesh, but to serve one another humbly in love' <- that's what we need focus on.
This is the thing. It does matter.
The Holy Spirit is an attitude. An attitude like Jesus.
We need no longer worry about salvation. As Jesus said 'it is done'.
'You were called to be free, but do not use this freedom to indulge the flesh, but to serve one another humbly in love' <- that's what we need focus on.
As the good man wrote in revelation - 'Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, singing: "To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever!"
What about
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. (Ephesians 2:4-7)
Christ already sees us as if we are seated with Him now, explain this one to me?
i hear what you are saying, but i have to believe the Scriptures and what they say. i am not adding my interpretation, inference, or my philosophy to the verses, only like a child believing what they plainly say and teach. And they plainly say and teach that a person can be blotted out of the Book of Life. i don't say that, Scriptures teach that. You can either believe Scriptures and what they teach or believe the teachings of men who teach contrary to the Scriptures. For example there are people who teach you can't be blotted out of the Book of Life, yet Scriptures plainly (with no interpretation needed) teach you CAN be blotted out.
Revelations 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
Revelations 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Exodus 32:33 And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.
So should i believe man, or believe the Word of God? i choose to believe the Word of God and not what men teach.
Here is a challenge for anyone, show me verses which says You Can't be removed from the Book of Life? Because the above Scriptures plainly teach you can be removed, or blotted out of it. And that is the Truth, it is not my inference or philosophy but is what the Scriptures plainly and simply teach, no interpretation needed. Of course i understand the thinking of this generation though, if they do not agree with what a verse plainly says and teaches, that is when they ADD interpretation to the verses to change what they plainly say and teach to mean something that they believe.
Please read my chapter on Once Saved Always Saved for more Scriptural proof that that teaching is a false doctrine.
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Amen. Completely agree. You cannot be unborn, then reborn then unborn. Lol.
It's worrying to think that some give Satan credit as if he has power to pluck us from the Father's hand. He can try to distract us from doing our work, but not take us away from God's unconditional love. We are still God's children. He never stops being our Father
Everyone is God's children, you are either an obedient child of God or a disobedient child of God, we are all children of God, the Saved and the unsaved alike.
And as you say, Nobody can cause us to be plucked out of the hands of the Father, the devil can't pluck us out, demons can't pluck us out, nobody can pluck us out of the hands of the Father, but of a Truth a person can freely choose to leave His hands by their own choices. That is the gift of free will.
Please i am begging you to read my article on Once Saved Always Saved, it is what God told me concerning this topic. If you do not believe it then you do not believe God who told me these things. i know how that sounds, but regardless it is the Truth and not a lie. click HERE to read article.
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i disagree with this statement, if it were true then there would be no need for a Judgement Day to determine where everyone is going, He would already know this. Read the story of Abraham sacrificing his son, God did it TO SEE WHAT HE WOULD DO, it was a test, God tested Him because He did not know the outcome of it, He gives us free choice, that is why God is either pleased with our choices or displeased. If He already knows what our choices would be, then He would not be displeased if we did what He already knew we were going to do. i explain this much better in my article "Does God Know Everything" ironically it was God who revealed this to me.
before i am bombarded by responses to this particular post please first read Does God Know Everything before responding, because all the Scriptural references are in the article.
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