Mitt Romney

[happyinhisway]

Jesus said the poor we will always have with us? interesting that he didnt say go and irradicate poverty, here are the tools you need for it. He said "the poor you will always have with you"
why is that? why didnt Jesus take away poverty away when he walked in this planet?
Is it to test or wits and out faith, be a good samaritan, for he did say if you do good to those in-need is as if you where doing it to me, for me (my own words no biblical interpitation). But to have one put down, insult, or put in harms way other with less in not acceptible no mater who they are or who they think they are. We are to be our brothers/sisters keepers, unfortunally goverment programs are filling in the gap that the church has forgotten to do (HELP THE NEEDY)

 

[megaman125]

"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax. […] my job is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.”

Fun fact: Studies show that most poor people WANT to have a job and provide for themselves instead of depend on welfare. Don't class all 47% of those people as lazy freeloaders. The freeloaders are just a small group that ruin it for everyone.

 

[dmdave17]

No one will prosper under Obama.

Amen to that! It appears (and I am not really a conspiracy theorist) that the government under men like Obama want to make the entire population dependent on the government. That way, they can have free rein in dictating (pun intended) how we live, what we think, who and how we worship.

My own opinion is that if we don't start working to take our country back soon, we will lose it forever. Scripture tells us that God didn't stay patient with Israel forever. Can anyone out there say "Babylon"?

 

[ForeverHis42]

Gas prices have not "more than doubled" since Obama, at least not here. I know when Bush was in office people down south were paying something like $1.84 per gallon whereas in the state I live, gas prices were over $3 a gallon when Bush left office. Right now gas prices are $3.50 per gallon where I live. This is no where close to "more than doubling" the gas prices. If anything, the south is now just paying on par what the rest of us were paying.

Lucky lucky lucky!!! Where I live we gone from 1.50-1.80ish to 4.00-5.00ish depending on the day of the week!!!!! so expensive... definitely more than doubled I'd say. My parents are very anti-Obama. We own a small business, my dad is the head, my mom does the bookkeeping and payroll, and there are about four other employees. We did okay for the first year or so of Obama but all the taxes r killing us. My mom thinks we aren't going to survive much longer if Obama wins

 

[Stuey]

Jesus said the poor we will always have with us? interesting that he didnt say go and irradicate poverty, here are the tools you need for it. He said "the poor you will always have with you"
why is that? why didnt Jesus take away poverty away when he walked in this planet?
Is it to test or wits and out faith, be a good samaritan, for he did say if you do good to those in-need is as if you where doing it to me, for me (my own words no biblical interpitation). But to have one put down, insult, or put in harms way other with less in not acceptible no mater who they are or who they think they are. We are to be our brothers/sisters keepers, unfortunally goverment programs are filling in the gap that the church has forgotten to do (HELP THE NEEDY)

I think you can look at this the other way also.

People have failed to take care of the poor and homeless. Thus it is the Government's responsibility to do so. So if you have private Church groups and people which take away the need for Government to catch the people they miss that's a wonderful thing and shows heaps for society, unfortunately I think there are far too many that slip through the cracks and need governmental assistance.

I've thought on the whole idea of - we shouldn't tax people for social security as people should be able to give what they want, should be able to choose how they support others.

I think it's like communism, good in theory. Unfortunately people are too selfish for it to work as it should.

 

[HeavenlyWarrior]

Amen to that! It appears (and I am not really a conspiracy theorist) that the government under men like Obama want to make the entire population dependent on the government. That way, they can have free rein in dictating (pun intended) how we live, what we think, who and how we worship.

My own opinion is that if we don't start working to take our country back soon, we will lose it forever. Scripture tells us that God didn't stay patient with Israel forever. Can anyone out there say "Babylon"?

Yet under Republicans we would soon revert to the failed policies of the past! Notwithstanding the fact that there would be severe CUTS to the programs that Millions of Americans have paid into all of their life like Social Security, for one, that they are now entitled to receive when they are retired. And Romney has said he does not want to give any more Cost of Living Raises for senior's benefits! Romney also wants to redo Medicare that would cause many to lose the benefits they thought they would be receiving. And say goodbye to education as we know it for younger folks! The debt would skyrocket under Romney among other things!

And with Romney wanting to do away with "ObamaCare" just as soon as he would get into office, well, as former President Reagan used to say "There they go again!" with wanting to completely dismantle it just after it has been passed so that those who would now be finding some relief (finally) from not having their insurance denied due to pre-existing conditions, etc. would have to go back to having their insurance policies denied under most circumstances! And that's just to begin with. The environment, so important to most of us, would be severely compromised under Romney! The Republican voucher programs also would hurt many Americans, so no, there is no better choice than President Obama especially now that the economy is starting on an upswing again and gas prices are going down and things are finally looking up!

Why do guesswork with what Romney would do? Look where the jobs went with him in his state (to China!) And look at what happened to the auto industry under Romney that President Obama had to save! Most know Romney will say one thing one day and the next day it is completely something different. That is Very Scary and I, for one, would not want to have someone like that for my President that's for sure!

Clinton touts Obama and warns against Romney
The former president, in his nominating speech at the Democratic convention, says the Republican's plans would 'explode the debt and destroy the economy.' Bill Clinton touts Obama and warns against Romney - latimes.com

 

[quakerzen]

I HATE that people think that the Republican party is a Christian party. They're not. They focus on two issues: gay marriage and abortion. From what I remember from my extensive study of the New Testament, those two things aren't really mentioned by Jesus... But he did talk about caring for the poor, sick, downtrodden, women and children. That sounds a lot more like the Democratic party than the Republican party. Catholics are overwhelmingly against abortion, very split on gay marriage, but ALL care about helping and protecting those that can't help themselves. I'm not Catholic but we can all learn something from them. When your party focuses on two moral-based issues while purposely slapping Jesus in the face by being completely uncaring about the poor, children and the sick, you're NOT in a Christian party, by any means.

 

[megaman125]

And with Romney wanting to do away with "ObamaCare" just as soon as he would get into office, well, as former President Reagan used to say "There they go again!" with wanting to completely dismantle it just after it has been passed so that those who would now be finding some relief (finally) from not having their insurance denied due to pre-existing conditions, etc. would have to go back to having their insurance policies denied under most circumstances! And that's just to begin with. The environment, so important to most of us, would be severely compromised under Romney! The Republican voucher programs also would hurt many Americans, so no, there is no better choice than President Obama especially now that the economy is starting on an upswing again and gas prices are going down and things are finally looking up!

Oh, but Romney says he has a plan for people with pre-existing conditions. Of course, he won't tell us what it is. Guess you have to vote for him to find out what you're really voting for.

I HATE that people think that the Republican party is a Christian party. They're not. They focus on two issues: gay marriage and abortion. From what I remember from my extensive study of the New Testament, those two things aren't really mentioned by Jesus... But he did talk about caring for the poor, sick, downtrodden, women and children. That sounds a lot more like the Democratic party than the Republican party. Catholics are overwhelmingly against abortion, very split on gay marriage, but ALL care about helping and protecting those that can't help themselves. I'm not Catholic but we can all learn something from them. When your party focuses on two moral-based issues while purposely slapping Jesus in the face by being completely uncaring about the poor, children and the sick, you're NOT in a Christian party, by any means.

I agree. Republican doesn't automatically equal Christian, and Democrat doesn't automatically equal anti-Christian.

Republicans aren't really pro-life anyways. Sure, they claim to be, but they don't do anything about it, which is just as bad as supporting abortion anyways. When the Republicans had control of the House, Senate, and Presidency, they did absolutely nothing about abortion, even though they were in a prime position to do so. Again, they claim to be pro-life, but their actions (or lack of actions) says otherwise.

Edit: Just to be clear, I'm only talking about elected republicans here, not to be confused with all republican voters.

 

[HeavenlyWarrior]

Oh, but Romney says he has a plan for people with pre-existing conditions. Of course, he won't tell us what it is. Guess you have to vote for him to find out what you're really voting for.

Yeah, his plan may well be to force people to take health vouchers as has been his plan all along! SURPRISE, SURPRISE!! So, thanks but no thanks, can't take the chance on voting for someone who won't be completely transparent with the very people who would vote for him and who would be the very ones affected by his tenuous policies. But that's quite a suggestion you had, Mega, to Vote First, Get Socked Later! LOL!!

I agree. Republican doesn't automatically equal Christian, and Democrat doesn't automatically equal anti-Christian.

Republicans aren't really pro-life anyways. Sure, they claim to be, but they don't do anything about it, which is just as bad as supporting abortion anyways. When the Republicans had control of the House, Senate, and Presidency, they did absolutely nothing about abortion, even though they were in a prime position to do so. Again, they claim to be pro-life, but their actions (or lack of actions) says otherwise.

You want to know why they did nothing about abortion even though they had the votes then and a Republican president to sign the bill outlawing abortion? Because they all knew full well that that would be the very LAST thing they would get to do while in office as that would effectively have ended the Republican Party as we know it and none of them would have ever been able to get elected again! That's why they did not dare move to change Roe v. Wade. They would forever have become the minority party in America thereby giving the Democratic Party Full Top and Leading Party status from that point on!

Edit: Just to be clear, I'm only talking about elected republicans here, not to be confused with all republican voters.

Ah, the followers of the pied piper, I see! LOL.

 

[raf]

True, but if the rich prosper, they will want more, and create jobs and opportunities for others.

Do you think a poor man will give you a job?

Would you rather be fed by working and creating your own wealth, even if it means working for a filthy rich guy, or depending on a government hand outs?

Not only that, if Big business does something unethical, government and law can crack down on them..On the other hand, if Big government doesn't something unethical, ahh, tough luck to ever who's in harms way for is seems government is above the law these days.

The rich companies are making all time high records every year almost and theyre still laying off and outsourcing. A lot of companies are like robots theyre not ethical theyre only trying to make bigger numbers. Romney is an example of this he outsourced a factory to china.

 

[megaman125]

You want to know why they did nothing about abortion even though they had the votes then and a Republican president to sign the bill outlawing abortion? Because they all knew full well that that would be the very LAST thing they would get to do while in office as that would effectively have ended the Republican Party as we know it and none of them would have ever been able to get elected again! That's why they did not dare move to change Roe v. Wade. They would forever have become the minority party in America thereby giving the Democratic Party Full Top and Leading Party status from that point on!

I don't see why that would be the case. I thought republicans were, by and large, opposed to abortion, so why would they suddenly stop voting for republicans? If all these people are claiming to be pro-life, why would the republican party suddenly crash if they actually supported (acted on) what they claim to support?

 

[jimmydiggs]

I HATE that people think that the Republican party is a Christian party. They're not. They focus on two issues: gay marriage and abortion. From what I remember from my extensive study of the New Testament, those two things aren't really mentioned by Jesus... But he did talk about caring for the poor, sick, downtrodden, women and children. That sounds a lot more like the Democratic party than the Republican party. Catholics are overwhelmingly against abortion, very split on gay marriage, but ALL care about helping and protecting those that can't help themselves. I'm not Catholic but we can all learn something from them. When your party focuses on two moral-based issues while purposely slapping Jesus in the face by being completely uncaring about the poor, children and the sick, you're NOT in a Christian party, by any means.

No, the Republican party is not God's Own Party and anyone who thinks so could use a dose of light.

The same is true of the opposite.

 

[jimmydiggs]

The rich companies are making all time high records every year almost and theyre still laying off and outsourcing. A lot of companies are like robots theyre not ethical theyre only trying to make bigger numbers. Romney is an example of this he outsourced a factory to china.

Is it wrong for a company to be profitable?

The means to the end often are in violation of God's law, indeed. The end itself I'm not so sure is a problem in and of itself. Matthew 19 would likely be appealed to, but that is regarding salvation less than it is being a profitable company.

If you have a job, you earn a living. Is that evil too? Can be, depending on what you do or why you do it, but in and of itself no.

 

[danthebaptist2407]

the rich will prosper no matter who is president because the rich are not dependent on the government for their wealth. you also have to understand a lot of this country's richest people are liberal democrats ie. Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, George Soros, Oprah Winfrey thats just a few of them. also the majority of the richest members of congress are Democrats. just sayin

 

[HeavenlyWarrior]

I don't see why that would be the case. I thought republicans were, by and large, opposed to abortion, so why would they suddenly stop voting for republicans? If all these people are claiming to be pro-life, why would the republican party suddenly crash if they actually supported (acted on) what they claim to support?

Well, let me explain it to you then. They may not vote for one of their own simply because even if Every Republican voted for their own party (fat chance) they would not ever be elected solely on that basis since it would also take heavy conservative Democratic support and the support of Independents and others to carry them through. Yes, they may be pro-life but compared with the rest of the country's voting population and coupled by the fact that there are many Republicans who are Pro-Choice also in their party who would not vote for a fellow Republican who was strictly pro-life, that would severely curtail any chance of them winning. See how it works now?

And remember how many Republicans crossed over from their own party and voted for President Clinton and then later for President Obama? They obviously knew how both of these presidents stood on that issue yet they still voted for them instead of their own Republican candidate, so the Democrats went on to win the presidency!

 

[raf]

Is it wrong for a company to be profitable?

The means to the end often are in violation of God's law, indeed. The end itself I'm not so sure is a problem in and of itself. Matthew 19 would likely be appealed to, but that is regarding salvation less than it is being a profitable company.

If you have a job, you earn a living. Is that evil too? Can be, depending on what you do or why you do it, but in and of itself no.

I have a job and always have too its not evil at all, you clearly are not understanding what im telling you if you're going to try to respond with a bible quote, and something that doesn't really have to do with what I said.

 

[Stuey]

Rants, reason and the religious right in US politics - The Drum Opinion (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

You guys may find this interesting. It is from an Australian perspective, which may trip some of you out.

 

[loveme1]

Mitt Romney is a christian. Christianity will prosper with Mitt Romney as President. Obama is a free-thinker. Obama will stifle christian activity and growth while supporting non-christian religions and non- christian activity.

Mitt Romney for President.

Not so.

They both be of the same agenda.

Be not dazzled by the term "christianity" and believe it represents all those that Worship Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah.


They seek to deceive the masses.

 

[FrankensteinGirls]

Fun fact: Studies show that most poor people WANT to have a job and provide for themselves instead of depend on welfare. Don't class all 47% of those people as lazy freeloaders. The freeloaders are just a small group that ruin it for everyone.

I know that fun fact.. I was quoting Romney who obviously doesn't