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Listen, It goes back to first cause.
No one has it within themselves to follow God out of their own freewill. -- There are those who were righteous by the Law. Also, one chooses to turn around to God when he hearkens to His Voice. Even Paul chose to become an apostle when he was faced with Jesus. He freely believed and choose to be converted.
If they did, Jesus wouldn't have needed to die. -- Jesus died so that we could choose faith as the means of justification.
Even the act of repentance is a gift. -- a soul remorseful in his deeds, turns to God looking for forgiveness of his rebellion. Kiss the hand of the Son while He is yet a little kindled and the Son sets upon the Throne of Mercy.
In our flesh(carnal mind), dwells no good thing. -- yes
Now, that spiritual mind Christ indwells His followers with,
is that a gift or is it their own volition? -- when we die to the flesh, we become spiritual and are led by His Spirit. It is those who have been sanctified who has the mind of Christ, the wisdom and knowledge from God. Indeed, a gift bestrowed upon the children.
None are righteous, no not one. --correct, we all have sinned.
And faith is a gift. -- yes, that which I am pesuaded of is a gift from the Holy Spirit, seeing that He is the Spirit of Truth.
So don't take it upon yourself that you are acting out of your own freewill,if that very faith you claim is a gift. -- Am I not given the choose to decide whom shall be the lord of my soul? Was Noah's or Abraham's confidence they placed in God a gift from Him, or did they TRUST Him. In this I praise God, 'O LORD, my God, in you I trust. Perserve me my God, because I have placed my trust in you. His ways is perfect, His Word is tried. He is a buckler to me because I trust in Him.
I do not know if you know but there are two words for faith. One is that which you have been persuaded of by God to be the Truth. The other is defined as placing confidence in someone or something. Indeed, I am persuaded that God's way is the best way Home. Therefore, I place confidence in the Son as God's only Way.
This is pride, and it is sin. -- I am sorry you feel that way. If the Lord is my God and He does not convince me othewise, then I only stand accountable to Him. Until the Lord has told me that I am now a robot, I will continue to believe my faith is from my heart and true, not cohersed.
Listen, I've lived it on both sides and I've seen it firsthand.
The very act of believing in the One whom the Father has sent is a gift(grace); lest any man should boast. -- and as I look upon the Light, from my soul it is echoed, 'Thank you for leading me by your Spirit of Truth to be persuaded that Christ alone is the Way.' Now that I have been convinced, I will place my confidence in Him, trusting that He will do what He has said He will do and did what He said He did.
No one has it within themselves to follow God out of their own freewill. -- There are those who were righteous by the Law. Also, one chooses to turn around to God when he hearkens to His Voice. Even Paul chose to become an apostle when he was faced with Jesus. He freely believed and choose to be converted.
If they did, Jesus wouldn't have needed to die. -- Jesus died so that we could choose faith as the means of justification.
Even the act of repentance is a gift. -- a soul remorseful in his deeds, turns to God looking for forgiveness of his rebellion. Kiss the hand of the Son while He is yet a little kindled and the Son sets upon the Throne of Mercy.
In our flesh(carnal mind), dwells no good thing. -- yes
Now, that spiritual mind Christ indwells His followers with,
is that a gift or is it their own volition? -- when we die to the flesh, we become spiritual and are led by His Spirit. It is those who have been sanctified who has the mind of Christ, the wisdom and knowledge from God. Indeed, a gift bestrowed upon the children.
None are righteous, no not one. --correct, we all have sinned.
And faith is a gift. -- yes, that which I am pesuaded of is a gift from the Holy Spirit, seeing that He is the Spirit of Truth.
So don't take it upon yourself that you are acting out of your own freewill,if that very faith you claim is a gift. -- Am I not given the choose to decide whom shall be the lord of my soul? Was Noah's or Abraham's confidence they placed in God a gift from Him, or did they TRUST Him. In this I praise God, 'O LORD, my God, in you I trust. Perserve me my God, because I have placed my trust in you. His ways is perfect, His Word is tried. He is a buckler to me because I trust in Him.
I do not know if you know but there are two words for faith. One is that which you have been persuaded of by God to be the Truth. The other is defined as placing confidence in someone or something. Indeed, I am persuaded that God's way is the best way Home. Therefore, I place confidence in the Son as God's only Way.
This is pride, and it is sin. -- I am sorry you feel that way. If the Lord is my God and He does not convince me othewise, then I only stand accountable to Him. Until the Lord has told me that I am now a robot, I will continue to believe my faith is from my heart and true, not cohersed.
Listen, I've lived it on both sides and I've seen it firsthand.
The very act of believing in the One whom the Father has sent is a gift(grace); lest any man should boast. -- and as I look upon the Light, from my soul it is echoed, 'Thank you for leading me by your Spirit of Truth to be persuaded that Christ alone is the Way.' Now that I have been convinced, I will place my confidence in Him, trusting that He will do what He has said He will do and did what He said He did.