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what happens when your unhappy and know what the bible says about divorce...the husband is suppose to b the head in marriage and as far as the spiritual aspect to but what if hes not what if everythin seems to be the wifes responsablity church wise and everythin ..this been goin on for couple years now yes we have talk yes there has been counsilin and prayer and waitin been married for over half my life... i stay to make other and him happy..and i certainly dont wanna go against god
 
Wives, in the same way be submissive to your husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, when they see the purity and reverence of your lives. I Peter 3:1,2

This s a very serious and difficult situation and Goid knows what's going on in your marriage and you home. The scripture above is very direct but wives are to live an exemplary Christian life before heir husbands and win them over by example. This goes in reverse for husbands. This is hard to do, but you have to search the scriptures, pray for wisdom and continue trying to be a good wife. If this is tried and after some time has no effect on your husband, then there may be other counsel.

I know some of the women will not care for this advice, but it's scripture and God placed it here for us for a reason.
 
yep i definatly know what the words says..but i guess it doesnt mor that the wife is unhappyatter about the hardin of the heart,
 
what happens when your unhappy and know what the bible says about divorce...the husband is suppose to b the head in marriage and as far as the spiritual aspect to but what if hes not what if everythin seems to be the wifes responsablity church wise and everythin ..this been goin on for couple years now yes we have talk yes there has been counsilin and prayer and waitin been married for over half my life... i stay to make other and him happy..and i certainly dont wanna go against god

Well... I recommend you continue to be a good help-meet to your husband and pray the Lord make you a great witness to win him not by your conversation but by your gentle and quiet spirit. NO WHERE in the bible does God define the quality of marriage as being active at church. As a side note... if you really are doing everything... you have usurped your husband's authority and not all men are strong and assertive enough to overcome that... so maybe you might need to back off A LOT to give him an opportunity to step up? BTW it definately wont happen over night or by NAGGING him. All you are responsible for is honoring God and performing YOUR duties as a wife... leave your husband to GOD.
 
Wives, in the same way be submissive to your husbands so that, i........


....I know some of the women will not care for this advice, but it's scripture and God placed it here for us for a reason.

This is often most misused and abused passage of the Bibles, of course Ephesians 5 22-33 as well. This is not a green light to treat a woman like a doormat or abuse her, it is not a millstone around a woman's neck in such a relationship, submitting to your husband is a Godly act but only if the husband lives up to his part of the bargain..

Most people read "wives submit to your husbands" and we have a riot and uprising of angry women, but if you read on, it says that men must treat their wives as Christ treats his church, that is unconditional love, respect and taking care of all her needs.

If a husband is showing genuine unconditional love with care and wisdom, then a woman will naturally submit to him or be more than willing to, and a wife who submits willingly, is a very attractive woman to the husband who will love her even more for it.

As for divorce, it is clear that divorce is only really for adultery, of course divorce is not a good option, but if people want to divorce for other reasons, then that's between them and God. I know a number of diviorcees who were divorced, but have now re-married with God at centre of marriage.
 
This is often most misused and abused passage of the Bibles, of course Ephesians 5 22-33 as well. This is not a green light to treat a woman like a doormat or abuse her, it is not a millstone around a woman's neck in such a relationship, submitting to your husband is a Godly act but only if the husband lives up to his part of the bargain..

Absolutely! It is coincidental that I just quoted Ephesians 5:25 in another thread, "Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her...". But the fact is, nowhere in scripture does it say that marriage is a bed of roses. Unfortunately,feeling "happy" isn't high on the list of biblical prerequisites for marriage.

You do not say specifically whether your husband is a strong believer, like you. If he is not, I believe that the focus of your prayers becomes obvious; pray that God will open your husband's eyes, and heart, to the true role he is expected to play as a husband. And if he is a believer, there may be other issues interfering with his fulfilling that role. Did something happen "a couple of years ago" that may have affected his outlook? Or, as BarlyGurl suggested, have you "muscled in" on his territory without really realizing what you were doing?

In any case, according to Scripture, divorce is never the answer. God hates divorce. Jesus instructed the Pharisees thusly, "“Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery.” (From the gospels of Matthew and Mark, emphasis added) Finally, the Apostle, Paul, tells us, "And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife,..." (1 Corinthians 7: 13-14)

In my opinion, you need to continue to pray. Continue to try and keep the lines of communication open. Ask God to give you the strength to deal with your problems and never lose sight of the fact that the marriage vows say "for better or worse, till death do us part". That is a 3-way covenant.

God bless you richly.
 
I have read the comments here and just want to say something my wife left me. She is with someone else. I have prayed about it and it is extremely unlikely we will get back together almost been a year and a half now. Although we are still separated and not divorced. I feel in complete limbo being separated and one thing divorce would give me is closure what are people's thoughts after all we cannot will someone to love us it is upto them as well we do not have control over other people's hearts and minds do we!
 
Tinker, have you asked him why it is this way, and shared how you would like to be? Maybe this is how he leads things? Maybe he is having a spiritual crisis? Asking him would give him a chance to love you the way you want to be loved.

Bazman, yours is a different story. You should try to get the paperwork sorted out, for both her and your peace of mind, and for legalities' sake. Whether you are still married in God's eyes is another issue, and you don't give enough information here for anyone to even hazard a guess.
 
Aw Tinker... I'm sorry. Being in a crappy marriage is hard, and I'm not about to tell you what to do because you know what the Bible says and the last thing you need is one more person throwing that at you. But I do advise that you get some good christian women in your corner.

3 years ago I separated from my husband now knowing if we would end up in divorce or not... It was tough and I was so conflicted about "doing the right thing..." whatever that was. Stay in an abusive marriage because that's what the Bible told me to do, or get out so my daughter didn't have to be witness to it? I really didn't know the "right thing" Tinker, and it sounds like you don't either. Fair enough.

One thing I did do right was get some good Christian women to know what was going on. They weren't my friends--just women in a Bible study I happened to be in... just there at the right time, asking the right questions and before I knew it I was spilling my guts about the whole ugly situation. My heathen friends were behind me from day one, but their advice wasn't all that helpful to me. The Christian lady I told--Tammy--she didn't give me answers or tell me what to do, but she shared the struggles she had in her marriage. Infidelity, betrayal, sadness... I found out I wasn't alone, and that gave me a new strength. She prayed with me and it meant so much...

One other thing I suggest is Mark Gungor's "Laugh Your Way to a Better Marriage." He does the seminars internationally, so maybe you can catch one live, but you can also buy the DVD from his website. It's a little pricey, but the insight and tools he offered saved my marriage and it was well worth the $60. I highly recommend it.

Anyway, best wishes to you Tinker. May you find the answer you need with God's help.
 
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Both, you and your husband have to shoulder your respective responsibilities in marriage. Your husband being head of the family, be the provider while you being the supporter. If any party absolve its responsibilities, then i think it is unbecoming of that person. In your case, i would suggest that you seek someone close to your husband to talk to him or perhaps church pastor or elders who are spiritually matured?
 
I'm sorry to hear that, it's never a good thing to see a marriage crumble the kids probably being worst affected.

You said the problem was your husband not stepping up to the plate, so i would highly recommend to you that you share these sermons with him, thes are 'a man in the making' type of sermons, they will put the seeds of responsibility in his heart and God will yield the increase, be patient with him sis, may God bless you and your husband and may these seeds of steel be firmly suplanted in his heart that he may fulfill his manly role, in Jesus Mighty name, amen.

Sermons Below for your husband (Highly recommended)

You can download them as a .mp3 if you want to put it on a mp3 player, ipod, phone or CD, what ever suites your need.


These sermons are by Pastor Eric Ludy a mighty man of God you can find more of his sermons at Ellerslie Training & Christian Discipleship | with Eric & Leslie Ludy
A New Generation of Fathers | Ellerslie Training & Christian Discipleship

Extraordinary Courage | Ellerslie Training & Christian Discipleship

Men of Down | Ellerslie Training & Christian Discipleship

Men of Steel | Ellerslie Training & Christian Discipleship

The Bravehearted Man | Ellerslie Training & Christian Discipleship

The Measurement of a Man | Ellerslie Training & Christian Discipleship

May God quicken the words that they may take effect in your husbands heart and may the seeds planted yielded bountifully, into the fullness and the stature of his role as a man, in Jesus Mighty name, Amen.
 
Remember what God has done, he has made you and him as one, there are always times that we will fall short in what and how we walk according to his word, keep on praying stay the course, God has heard you and he has not left you by your self, remembering that we must have and keep the faith if we are to see him as he is and his words come into life in us as we beleive what he says, I have felt this way as I am the man in my house and SEEING first hand how things get turned to a fight for life, if we take our eyes off of him, stay around people that have power against the devil and you will see Gods plan for you is diffrent than what yoou exspected for your self, follow love and he will see and want this love as all that call upon his name do.
God bless and stay the course.
 
I think the context is important here:

1 Peter 3
In the same way, you wives, be submissive to your own husbands so that even if any of them are disobedient to the word, they may be won without a word by the behavior of their wives, 2 as they observe your chaste and respectful behavior. 3 ... 6 just as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord, and you have become her children if you do what is right without being frightened by any fear. 10 For, "THE ONE WHO DESIRES LIFE, TO LOVE AND SEE GOOD DAYS, MUST KEEP HIS TONGUE FROM EVIL AND HIS LIPS FROM SPEAKING DECEIT. 11 "HE MUST TURN AWAY FROM EVIL AND DO GOOD ; HE MUST SEEK PEACE AND PURSUE IT. 12 "FOR THE EYES OF THE LORD ARE TOWARD THE RIGHTEOUS, AND HIS EARS ATTEND TO THEIR PRAYER, BUT THE FACE OF THE LORD IS AGAINST THOSE WHO DO EVIL." 13 Who is there to harm you if you prove zealous for what is good ? 14 But even if you should suffer for the sake of righteousness, you are blessed. AND DO NOT FEAR THEIR INTIMIDATION, AND DO NOT BE TROUBLED, 15 but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence ; 16 and keep a good conscience so that in the thing in which you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior in Christ will be put to shame. 17 For it is better, if God should will it so, that you suffer for doing what is right rather than for doing what is wrong.

God seems pretty aware that we might suffer due to a disobedient spouse, however nothing you've said sounds very extreme. There are certainly worse cases...of adultery, alcoholism, etc. Think of how Hosea must of felt and go read what God told him to do. You can choose your way, but God gives you His plan because it is what's best. He says if we are willing to "lose our life" we will find it. But if we seek to save our life we will lose it. That is the message of the gospel... and since marriage represents the relationship between Christ and the Church, Paul tells you in 1 Cor 7 what to do if you are married to an unbeliever (or one who is acting like one- Gal 5 gives you the characteristics of an unbeliever and they are not pleasant). Again God seems aware that we will endure troubles in marriage and things might not be pleasant but he says we sanctify our spouse by staying with them so marriage has a much greater purpose than making us happy.

Many marriages have been transformed after many years of horrible circumstances. God says he brings us into the wilderness to "test our hearts...to see if we will keep His commandments." Trials serve a purpose, they test our faith. They aren't meant to make you quit. Jesus didn't choose the comfortable thing when God told Him to get on that cross...He begged God not to make Him do it. And where would we be if He hadn't. Let your life be a light that points others to Him.
 
Sis, you need to ask Jesus to be like a husband to you until your earthly one comes around; important for married and unmarried girls alike :). Also pray and see if Jesus wants you to actually do FEWER church things. If they're getting to be a burden, there's a REALLY good chance that you should do more out-of-church things, like simply trying to support your husband, being a friend to the neighbor next door who needs it (and telling her how she can have our Best Friend in her life :)!), being a stand-in-mom to your children's friends who have rough families, etc.

I know it's hard, but turn your eyes upon Jesus, and look to Him for your emotional support :). -Jill
 
First, while those verses mentioned are certainly scripture and applicable, they stand alone. Just because your husband doesn't hold up to his end of the bargain doesn't mean you get to drop your end, or vice versa.
Second, find one verse in the bible where God promises you happiness... Joy certainly, but happiness is situational. God wants you to grow.
 
I have read the comments here and just want to say something my wife left me. She is with someone else. I have prayed about it and it is extremely unlikely we will get back together almost been a year and a half now. Although we are still separated and not divorced. I feel in complete limbo being separated and one thing divorce would give me is closure what are people's thoughts after all we cannot will someone to love us it is upto them as well we do not have control over other people's hearts and minds do we!

Hi, I just came back here and noticed your post, Bazman. Biblically you can leave your wife. Matthew 5:32 New American Standard Bible (©1995):
but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the reason of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

I will add that I've heard people (some on this site, and if you'd like a link to specific posts, please let me know and I'll send you a link to at least one) say that they wish that they hadn't divorced, even though they had biblical grounds to do so, as it brought so much heartache. DEFINITELY pray about what to do; God knows what would be best, and He knows whether or not your wife will come around, Bazman :). Jesus has every answer, for sure :). "Lord Jesus, please show the man with the screen name "Bazman" what to do as far as staying and waiting for his wife to come around, or letting her stay with the other guy and filing for divorce. If You'll change her heart, please do so, Lord; I know that You know the hearts, and are omnipotent. Either way, please give this man peace about what to do. Thank you in advance for whastever happens, Sir. In Your Name, Lord Jesus, amen."

 
Tinker, I truly don't know what you're going thru, But I do know this: Honor God & His word, & He will take care of you. Be the wife God wants you to be. It won't guarantee your husband will straighten his ways. If he does, you will be blessed with restoration. If not, God could possibly set you free. I say possibly, because I can't presume what He will do. Whatever He does, it will always be for your good.
 
Divorce is never a good option. It is worse than you can even emagine. It goes against scripture for a reason there are specific allowances for divorce in scripture, Howevre that does not take away the consequences here.

I might add the covenant of marriage is between you and God as well as your spouse. If we take the mentality of, Well Im not Happy. Then what happens when we are not happy with God are to divorce as well? It's the covenant.

I would encourage to let God do his thing and you do yours. Bless you God Then your Husband and God bwill bless you and your Promise.

I pray this new year brings satisfaction and joy to you and your husband.