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further down he states that justin was who said it that he(satin),did not know his sentence till Christ came and gave it. so he's probably quoting justin myrter but we i think only have two works from justin(that survived),,the appoligies..
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are uncircumcised in the flesh, but this people are uncircumcised in heart. Jeremiah 9:25-26 But you will say, Yea, verily the people are circumcised for a seal. But so also is every Syrian and Arab, and all the priests of idols: are these then also within the bond of His covenant? Yea, the Egyptians also practise circumcision. Learn then, my children, concerning all things richly, that Abraham, the first who enjoined circumcision, looking forward in spirit to Jesus, practised that rite, having received the mysteries of the three letters. For [the Scripture] says, And Abraham circumcised ten, and eight, and three hundred men of his household. What, then, was the knowledge given to him in this? Learn the eighteen first, and then the three hundred. The ten and the eight are thus denoted— Ten by Ι, and Eight by Η . You have [the initials of the, name of] Jesus. And because the cross was to express the grace [of our redemption] by the letter Τ, he says also, Three Hundred. He signifies, therefore, Jesus by two letters, and the cross by one. He knows this, who has put within us the engrafted gift of His doctrine. No one has been admitted by me to a more excellent piece of knowledge than this, but I know that you are worthy. ken,,"18"why the ?,,,,aeons,the remainder of 30 and the eta and iota,,,,,this is the book of Barnabas chapter 9,,i know i remember more (but i cannot remember where,ill still look),,,,,but here is probably where they got the 18,iota and eta,,,that is from Barnabas also like they did from the other apostles and Christ so they thought to change it instead of "understand it",,,,i know as for now we have not touched calculating 600,60,6 and as to the 6000 years,,maybe to un-sort what they(gnostics) have done so far(added to,taken away from scripture),,,i am afraid when i send this post others may read it and believe the gnostics so i write this,,,i know you know it ken,i did not want anyone to read this and be led astray(if they see I,H,T,,,,,10,8,300),,they may be compelled to believe 616,,,,when the scriptures were saying "Ih- sous",,,,,
Chapter 9. The spiritual meaning of circumcision
He speaks moreover concerning our ears, how He has circumcised both them and our heart. The Lord says in the prophet, In the hearing of the ear they obeyed me. And again He says, By hearing, those shall hear who are afar off; they shall know what I have done. Isaiah 33:13 And, Be circumcised in your hearts, says the Lord. Jeremiah 4:4 And again He says, Hear, O Israel, for these things says the Lord your God. Jeremiah 7:2 And once more the Spirit of the Lord proclaims, Who is he that wishes to live for ever? By hearing let him hear the voice of my servant. And again He says, Hear, O heaven, and give ear, O earth, for God has spoken. Isaiah 1:2 These are in proof. And again He says, Hear the word of the Lord, you rulers of this people. Isaiah 1:10 And again He says, Hear, you children, the voice of one crying in the wilderness. Therefore He has circumcised our ears, that we might hear His word and believe, for the circumcision in which they trusted is abolished. For He declared that circumcision was not of the flesh, but they transgressed because an evil angel deluded them. He says to them, These things says the Lord your God— (here I find a new commandment)— Sow not among thorns, but circumcise yourselves to the Lord. And why speaks He thus: Circumcise the stubbornness of your heart, and harden not your neck? Deuteronomy 10:16 And again: Behold, says the Lord, all the nations are uncircumcised in the flesh, but this people are uncircumcised in heart. Jeremiah 9:25-26 But you will say, Yea, verily the people are circumcised for a seal. But so also is every Syrian and Arab, and all the priests of idols: are these then also within the bond of His covenant? Yea, the Egyptians also practise circumcision. Learn then, my children, concerning all things richly, that Abraham, the first who enjoined circumcision, looking forward in spirit to Jesus, practised that rite, having received the mysteries of the three letters. For [the Scripture] says, And Abraham circumcised ten, and eight, and three hundred men of his household. What, then, was the knowledge given to him in this? Learn the eighteen first, and then the three hundred. The ten and the eight are thus denoted— Ten by Ι, and Eight by Η . You have [the initials of the, name of] Jesus. And because the cross was to express the grace [of our redemption] by the letter Τ, he says also, Three Hundred. He signifies, therefore, Jesus by two letters, and the cross by one. He knows this, who has put within us the engrafted gift of His doctrine. No one has been admitted by me to a more excellent piece of knowledge than this, but I know that you are worthy.
Chapter 10. Spiritual significance of the precepts of Moses respecting different kinds of food here is all of ch. 9 of the letter of barnabas,,,,i blended my post with the text in the former post.
He speaks moreover concerning our ears, how He has circumcised both them and our heart. The Lord says in the prophet, In the hearing of the ear they obeyed me. And again He says, By hearing, those shall hear who are afar off; they shall know what I have done. Isaiah 33:13 And, Be circumcised in your hearts, says the Lord. Jeremiah 4:4 And again He says, Hear, O Israel, for these things says the Lord your God. Jeremiah 7:2 And once more the Spirit of the Lord proclaims, Who is he that wishes to live for ever? By hearing let him hear the voice of my servant. And again He says, Hear, O heaven, and give ear, O earth, for God has spoken. Isaiah 1:2 These are in proof. And again He says, Hear the word of the Lord, you rulers of this people. Isaiah 1:10 And again He says, Hear, you children, the voice of one crying in the wilderness. Therefore He has circumcised our ears, that we might hear His word and believe, for the circumcision in which they trusted is abolished. For He declared that circumcision was not of the flesh, but they transgressed because an evil angel deluded them. He says to them, These things says the Lord your God— (here I find a new commandment)— Sow not among thorns, but circumcise yourselves to the Lord. And why speaks He thus: Circumcise the stubbornness of your heart, and harden not your neck? Deuteronomy 10:16 And again: Behold, says the Lord, all the nations are uncircumcised in the flesh, but this people are uncircumcised in heart. Jeremiah 9:25-26 But you will say, Yea, verily the people are circumcised for a seal. But so also is every Syrian and Arab, and all the priests of idols: are these then also within the bond of His covenant? Yea, the Egyptians also practise circumcision. Learn then, my children, concerning all things richly, that Abraham, the first who enjoined circumcision, looking forward in spirit to Jesus, practised that rite, having received the mysteries of the three letters. For [the Scripture] says, And Abraham circumcised ten, and eight, and three hundred men of his household. What, then, was the knowledge given to him in this? Learn the eighteen first, and then the three hundred. The ten and the eight are thus denoted— Ten by Ι, and Eight by Η . You have [the initials of the, name of] Jesus. And because the cross was to express the grace [of our redemption] by the letter Τ, he says also, Three Hundred. He signifies, therefore, Jesus by two letters, and the cross by one. He knows this, who has put within us the engrafted gift of His doctrine. No one has been admitted by me to a more excellent piece of knowledge than this, but I know that you are worthy.
Chapter 10. Spiritual significance of the precepts of Moses respecting different kinds of food here is all of ch. 9 of the letter of barnabas,,,,i blended my post with the text in the former post.
i am fumble fingered,i am sorry,,,look for the book of barnabas go to chapter 9,,,,"i combined what he said and i sad together",,,,,i am too old to play on the computer,spank me if you will,i cannot spank any more if i pull off my belt my pants will fall to the ground and i will trip and fall,,,,in the old days i was cool,,and now i am 78 my pants sag down and i have trouble keeping people from seeing my underwear,,,,"so twice in the same lifetime,im cool,,,,im sagging",,,,,and so ill try to figure out how to separate the text im quoting from the things im saying,,,,"good luck,iamsoandso",,,,
,,,,,,once apon a time i was offended to see the youngsters,and their hats wouldn't fit right and their pants would not stay up. then i was getting dressed one day and looked at me in the mirror and "it hit me,hey their all trying to dress like me!",,,,,
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I haven't looked at the Epistle of Barnabas in 30 years. But, you're right, that seems to do it. It is clearly in the same tradition. It would seem important to Greeks because the dodecahedron has 12 sides and 30 edges. Philo found a lot of those kind of things, and they would have thought this was adding to him.
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"adding to it",,,,,thats it,,,,i was in fear they might read the "thread",,,and it would lead them to the wrong conclusion,,,me and you understand what we discussed for the last few weeks,,,,they do not if i show "I,E,T,,,",,,,in the scripture they(the others on cc),,may read it and be compelled to believe it so to believe "616",,,but we know different,,,,we know that 616 is an commentary,,,and that they took it from actual scriptures(misunderstanding them),,,,the Barnabas says exactly what they did,,,but did not change I,E,,,they the gnostics,thought they new. their mistake was to add to or take away...if we say it here,they(c.c.) must read the former pages to understand. if they do they will not be led astray. but if you consider if they only read a few of our post,,they may be compelled to believe 616,,,if they match it to Barnabas ch. 9,,,,so i must warn them that we are speaking of "heretics",quoting scriptures from "apostles",,,see it from the point of a simple mind,you are brilliant at interpreting the fragment we are working on,,,,but,do they believe you are disproving it or proving it?,,,,we can email each other,,this is a permanent record "the www",,,a year from now a brother may read the thing we speak of,,,and they will think 616,,is the mark,or 666. they need to know what me and you found. the scripture i sent you could lead them astray "right here" if they dont understand it they will reason the wrong path,,,do you agree they may draw the wrong conclusion if they see the scripture i showed you?,,,at times i say things to you and you say "i knew that",,i was afraid that if did not say things i knew you knew,,they would misunderstand it.i knew you understood it when we spoke of pardis and gan.,,,,we find nothing different here. the same,noah was 600 years old when he entered the ark.60 cubits by 6 was the man that was not made of the soil. 6000 years.we should add up the days of Noah. Abraham was 58 when Noah died."as in the days of noe",,,,gen. chapter 1 is a prophecy 6 sets of 1000 and then the mill. then the first day of creation.
"70'th week",,,,,,,,6 days the lord created the earth and the heavens,,,and on the 7th day he gave the mill. kingdom,,,,,,,,,the missing week,the beggining to the end.
these then also within the bond of His covenant? Yea, the Egyptians also practise circumcision. Learn then, my children, concerning all things richly, that Abraham, the first who enjoined circumcision, looking forward in spirit to Jesus, practised that rite, having received the mysteries of the three letters. For [the Scripture] says, And Abraham circumcised ten, and eight, and three hundred men of his household. What, then, was the knowledge given to him in this? Learn the eighteen first, and then the three hundred. The ten and the eight are thus denoted— Ten by Ι, and Eight by Η . You have [the initials of the, name of] Jesus. And because the cross was to express the grace [of our redemption] by the letter Τ, he says also, Three Hundred. He signifies, therefore, Jesus by two letters, and the cross by one. He knows this, who has put within us the engrafted gift of His doctrine. No one has been admitted by me to a more excellent piece of knowledge than this, but I know that you are worthy. the extra 18 aeons,,,,,and why
"you have the initials of the name of jesus",,,latin? why latin?(its interpreted form greek to latin),,,,its the first two letters of his name in greek.....
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I would hope anyone immature enough to draw such a conclusion without reading the whole thread for context, would also be too immature to understand the level of discussion on such a very technical point of interpretation. I already have an e-mail accusing me of not being a member of the Body of Christ since I do not post the "simple truth of the Gospel", but prefer to be so highly technical.
But I understand your reasoning. Better to be safe than lead astray anyone, and be better we get a millstone around our necks.
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Yes, this is an ancient understanding. The millenium as the sabbath of millenia. One can match the xeven stages of spiritual growth of a person with the histories of the 7 millenia. however, there is a "fudge factor". The counts are not 1000 years exactly, thus preventing us from using this pattern to predict the date of Jesus' return.
adore it. He says also: And he will cause a mark [to be put] in the forehead and in the right hand, that no one may be able to buy or sell, unless he who has the mark of the name of the beast or the number of his name; and the number is six hundred and sixty-six, Revelation 13:14, etc. that is, six times a hundred, six times ten, and six units. [He gives this] as a summing up of the whole of that apostasy which has taken place during six thousand years. 3. For in as many days as this world was made, in so many thousand years shall it be concluded. And for this reason the Scripture says: Thus the heaven and the earth were finished, and all their adornment. And God brought to a conclusion upon the sixth day the works that He had made; and God rested upon the seventh day from all His works. Genesis 2:2 This is an account of the things formerly created, as also it is a prophecy of what is to come. For the day of the Lord is as a thousand years; 2 Peter 3:8 and in six days created things were completed: it is evident, therefore, that they will come to an end at the sixth thousand year.
4. And therefore throughout all time, man, having been moulded at the beginning by the hands of God, that is, of the Son and of the Spirit, is made after the image and likeness of God: the chaff, indeed, which is the apostasy, being cast away; but the wheat, that is, those who bring forth fruit to God in faith, this is irenaeus book 5 chap.28.3 i chose this one to post becouse he bluntly states "as also it is a prophecy of what is to come" that is gen.1;1-gen 2;2;,,,,the seven days. although hippolytus,barnabas,peter ect. all explain the same thing they do not bluntly say it is a prophecy(they assume we understood that)
4. And therefore throughout all time, man, having been moulded at the beginning by the hands of God, that is, of the Son and of the Spirit, is made after the image and likeness of God: the chaff, indeed, which is the apostasy, being cast away; but the wheat, that is, those who bring forth fruit to God in faith, this is irenaeus book 5 chap.28.3 i chose this one to post becouse he bluntly states "as also it is a prophecy of what is to come" that is gen.1;1-gen 2;2;,,,,the seven days. although hippolytus,barnabas,peter ect. all explain the same thing they do not bluntly say it is a prophecy(they assume we understood that)