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We make the choice? Did Noah have a choice? Did Pharaoh? Did the Lord Jesus?
There must be a choice somewhere in this. I'm just not able to discern where His help stopped and my choice began. I would have chosen Him so much earlier if I would have known then what I know now...
Repent! Believe and be converted... All miracles of God.
I absolutely believe the bible. If it says we made a choice for God and that is why we are saved then that's the way it is and we must deal with it. My bible doesn't exactly word it that way.
Is belief a choice? It seems like it to us. But can you believe differently by an act of will?
There must be a choice somewhere in this. I'm just not able to discern where His help stopped and my choice began. I would have chosen Him so much earlier if I would have known then what I know now...
Repent! Believe and be converted... All miracles of God.
I absolutely believe the bible. If it says we made a choice for God and that is why we are saved then that's the way it is and we must deal with it. My bible doesn't exactly word it that way.
Is belief a choice? It seems like it to us. But can you believe differently by an act of will?
the bible says therefore choose life..in deuteronomy 30:19..do you believe this or will you pick what scriptures you can keep pointing to and only pointing to that seem to defend your reform theology?
If you cannot make a choice, then God is merely playing games with you when he says repent and turn from your ways when you clearly cannot if you have been decreed to go to hell from the foundations/beginning of time..
yea, sounds like a cruel mind game..it would be very disingenuous of God to do that and is against his nature..no he does not contradict himself..read john 3:17..for God did not send his son into the world to condemn the world..but clearly this other message..this bad news of calvinism teaches that is what he does, all you got are several scriptures to point to and keep returning to that are the foundation of reform theology..but if you start romans 9 at verse one, and read on through..clearly your tulip is obliterated when Paul says how he wishes he would be cut off so that his fellow countrymen could be saved..if Paul was a calvinist, why would he not be praising God for those who are predetermined to sent to hell? After all this is as you would say..supposedly bring God glory..if nothing else he should be willing to accept it as God's will and not say 'absurd things' like oh i wish that i myself were cut off for them!
think about it..