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I will come back with more in regards to bible references, but:
* search out the geneologies in Genesis first-- these will reveal the lineages from Adam and Eve
* remember that the words 'sons of God' can refer to also to mortals and not angels
* remember that in the nephilim passages the ones that bred with woman were mostly referred to as 'men'
* remember that Adam and Eve would have been perfect initially-- can you imagine the size and power of people directly, or closely descendant to them?
Adam could name countless number of animals.. was a very masterful animal herder and lived like 10 times longer than the average person now. Eve would have had similar amazing qualities.
There are many example of very large people through history.. which way are people going-- taller or shorter? If it is mostly shorter-- then that makes Adam pretty tall
Anyway--
If I remember rightly there are two different lineages from Adam and Eve-- thru their children.. and I think one quite sound biblical scholar wrote that it was one lineage line that had more direct descendant to Adam and Eve getting together with a more watered down line.
I will try and fine the bible refs.
* search out the geneologies in Genesis first-- these will reveal the lineages from Adam and Eve
* remember that the words 'sons of God' can refer to also to mortals and not angels
* remember that in the nephilim passages the ones that bred with woman were mostly referred to as 'men'
* remember that Adam and Eve would have been perfect initially-- can you imagine the size and power of people directly, or closely descendant to them?
Adam could name countless number of animals.. was a very masterful animal herder and lived like 10 times longer than the average person now. Eve would have had similar amazing qualities.
There are many example of very large people through history.. which way are people going-- taller or shorter? If it is mostly shorter-- then that makes Adam pretty tall
Anyway--
If I remember rightly there are two different lineages from Adam and Eve-- thru their children.. and I think one quite sound biblical scholar wrote that it was one lineage line that had more direct descendant to Adam and Eve getting together with a more watered down line.
I will try and fine the bible refs.
K
Nephilim are certain children of Adam who became angry with God for not letting them back in the garden. They prayed for 200 years, trying to repent. God told them to pastor the others, but they turned against God, inviting fallen angels to possess them. With the new knowledge and power gained from the prayer and the fallen angels, they ruled mankind. They created the giants to help control the people, most likely through genetic manipulation and artificial insemination, although the ancient texts are not completely clear.
I know of nothing to link Beth-Rapha with giants. It means "house of the great", and there are lots of ways to be "great".
Nephalim are people who invite themselves be possessed by demons. They did this after the flood also. Some are probably doing it today. Whether giants survived the flood, or were recreated, there clearly was a wide strain for a couple thousand years. They are 9-15 feet tall, and there are pictures and stories from Egypt, Sumeria, Babylonia, Greece and of course the Bible, both of the creatures and the archeological finds relating to them.
The few mentions over the millenia suggest the DNA was breaking down, as they get less intelligent with each few centuries. The only idea for where they are now, and it is just an unproven idea, as it relies on several conjectural translations, comes from the Mayan Popul Vuh, and it is that they "became monkeys", i.e., they are Bigfoot.
I know of nothing to link Beth-Rapha with giants. It means "house of the great", and there are lots of ways to be "great".
Nephalim are people who invite themselves be possessed by demons. They did this after the flood also. Some are probably doing it today. Whether giants survived the flood, or were recreated, there clearly was a wide strain for a couple thousand years. They are 9-15 feet tall, and there are pictures and stories from Egypt, Sumeria, Babylonia, Greece and of course the Bible, both of the creatures and the archeological finds relating to them.
The few mentions over the millenia suggest the DNA was breaking down, as they get less intelligent with each few centuries. The only idea for where they are now, and it is just an unproven idea, as it relies on several conjectural translations, comes from the Mayan Popul Vuh, and it is that they "became monkeys", i.e., they are Bigfoot.
To say that fallen angles had sex with women I think is totally unbiblical. 1) In Genesis God says each kind will reproduce after it's own kind. 2) Angels are spirit and only God can give them the ability to appear as human or some form. They do not have creative prowess, only God does. 3) To say that Angles can masquerade as humans hurts the gospel, for if they (angles) can do that, who's to say that Satan himself didn't come to pretend and be a counterfeit to the Christ, God-man!
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There is debate over exactly who the Nephilim in Genesis 6 are. Some people believe that the Nephilim are the offspring of sexual relations between fallen angels and human women. Jude 6 is often referenced as additional support when addressing the angelic realm who "...did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode..." (Jude 1:6). Others believe the Nephilim were giants (Nephilim means giants), men of great physical stature. Of course, this is also believed by some people who suspect that the offspring of the fallen angels and the women were those giants. They say this would explain their large size, but this is conjecture. Still others hold that the Nephilim are the descendents of Seth.
According to Harper's Bible Dictionary, the Nephilim are "people of the pre-Flood generation, the offspring of daughters of men and divine beings (Gen. 6:1-4). Their generation and their conduct seem to have provoked the Flood as punishment (Gen. 6:5 - 8:22). In Num. 13:33 the Israelite spies describe the inhabitants of Hebron as Nephilim, so large and powerful that 'we seemed like grasshoppers.' The name could mean 'fallen ones' and allude to stories in related cultures of rebellious giants defeated by the gods in olden times" (cf. Isaiah 14:12).2 Of course, a problem with this view is how did the Nephilim survive the flood? We see a post-flood account of them in Num. 13:33, "There also we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak are part of the Nephilim); and we became like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight."
Even commentaries are divided on exactly who the Nephilim really are. Those of us who have studied this hold an opinion on who and what they were. But if I expound, that would just be my opinion. Each believer should read these scriptures referred to here, and determine therir own answer to this long debated issue of scripture. This is certainly an interesting study, but not a critical issue impacting our eternal relationship with God.
According to Harper's Bible Dictionary, the Nephilim are "people of the pre-Flood generation, the offspring of daughters of men and divine beings (Gen. 6:1-4). Their generation and their conduct seem to have provoked the Flood as punishment (Gen. 6:5 - 8:22). In Num. 13:33 the Israelite spies describe the inhabitants of Hebron as Nephilim, so large and powerful that 'we seemed like grasshoppers.' The name could mean 'fallen ones' and allude to stories in related cultures of rebellious giants defeated by the gods in olden times" (cf. Isaiah 14:12).2 Of course, a problem with this view is how did the Nephilim survive the flood? We see a post-flood account of them in Num. 13:33, "There also we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak are part of the Nephilim); and we became like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight."
Even commentaries are divided on exactly who the Nephilim really are. Those of us who have studied this hold an opinion on who and what they were. But if I expound, that would just be my opinion. Each believer should read these scriptures referred to here, and determine therir own answer to this long debated issue of scripture. This is certainly an interesting study, but not a critical issue impacting our eternal relationship with God.
W
Thanks for all your help everyone. I agree this is not a critical issue affecting our relationship with God. My reasoning, & new interest in the subject, is because this is about the only thing I don't understand, at all, in the Bible. So most of my life I just put it away. Now I think it's important to understand even this, even tho I may not be able to come to a conclusion, at least I need to know all that is presented by the Bible.
Issue #1- Mostly when people became upset or overly concerned in the Bible, it was noted as such. Why were people so accustomed to living with giants?
Issue #2-Strong's definition of these people is mostly the same:giant,tyrant, mighty, bully & "one who has already been judged", "cast down". (The only one who has been judged is satan.)
Issue # 3- Strong's definitions, from one to another referred to another defintion & they all mean giants. When you look up the referred definition, you find that 1051, Beth-Rapha = "an ISR:=Bethrapha="house of the giant". This refers you to 7495= "rapha or raphah which is "to mend by stitching,cure,cause to heal,physician,repair x thoroughly make whole.see 7503=raphah=" to slacken, abate,cease,consume,draw toward evening,fail, be faint,wax,feeble,forsake,..." etc. Also referred to yet another way it was used in another definition where Rapha & Raphah is capitalized which means"giant,name of 2 ISR.-Rapha."
1Chron.4:12-Beth-Rapha, son of Eshton."
1Chron.26:7 refers to a similar spelling, but I'm not familiar with the language. "REPHAEL ="God has cured", which is similar to the definition above for Rapha.
Rephaim & Rephiams are the same dediniton as the nephilim, 7497.
Issue # 3- The first prophecy of Christ, may correlate with the last prophecy of Christ.( 1st prophecy being Gen.3:15-"And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed: it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.") Heel is here, the last generation of Christ"s followers which are Eve's descendants also=mankind. Jesus is also a descendant of Eve's and He is God's only begotten Son who always was, who will come again to bruise the head of the antichrist=crush,break. Interesting, Strong's definition of the word "bruise" used here, is # 7779. Doesn't that mean "completion"?
So I interpret the verse: a genetic descendant of Eve's, Jesus, will crush the serpent's head, while the serpent's seed will crush His last generation of believers.
I was taught by my denomination, that the serpent here was satan offering the apple to Eve. Then when God said to the serpent in the previous verse,... "upon thy belly thou shalt go, and dust thou shall eat all the days of thy life," that God basically amputated the snake's legs from then on.eternity. Evolutionists have said there is scientific evidence that snakes used to have legs.
So in reality, my Christian denomination taught me that God is the father of evolution. Not only do I refuse to believe that accusation against God, I don't believe the evolutionists either, that snakes used to have legs. They are reptiles. Some have legs, some don't. They are similar.
snake="a snake from it's hiss,whisper a majic spell,divine,enchanter,diligently observe".
Neither do I believe that if satan posessed a snake, that God would punish the snake.
Issue #4- You have to take Gen. #:15 LITERALLY. This prophecy is about to be fulfilled literally, so you also have to take "thy seed" of the serpent literally. So my question is, what is the serpent's seed? It cannot be the only thing in the verse to be taken spiritually can it?
So far I have not made any conclusions to a correlation between the nephilim & serpents seed because I see no other info in the Bible.
Issue #1- Mostly when people became upset or overly concerned in the Bible, it was noted as such. Why were people so accustomed to living with giants?
Issue #2-Strong's definition of these people is mostly the same:giant,tyrant, mighty, bully & "one who has already been judged", "cast down". (The only one who has been judged is satan.)
Issue # 3- Strong's definitions, from one to another referred to another defintion & they all mean giants. When you look up the referred definition, you find that 1051, Beth-Rapha = "an ISR:=Bethrapha="house of the giant". This refers you to 7495= "rapha or raphah which is "to mend by stitching,cure,cause to heal,physician,repair x thoroughly make whole.see 7503=raphah=" to slacken, abate,cease,consume,draw toward evening,fail, be faint,wax,feeble,forsake,..." etc. Also referred to yet another way it was used in another definition where Rapha & Raphah is capitalized which means"giant,name of 2 ISR.-Rapha."
1Chron.4:12-Beth-Rapha, son of Eshton."
1Chron.26:7 refers to a similar spelling, but I'm not familiar with the language. "REPHAEL ="God has cured", which is similar to the definition above for Rapha.
Rephaim & Rephiams are the same dediniton as the nephilim, 7497.
Issue # 3- The first prophecy of Christ, may correlate with the last prophecy of Christ.( 1st prophecy being Gen.3:15-"And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed: it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.") Heel is here, the last generation of Christ"s followers which are Eve's descendants also=mankind. Jesus is also a descendant of Eve's and He is God's only begotten Son who always was, who will come again to bruise the head of the antichrist=crush,break. Interesting, Strong's definition of the word "bruise" used here, is # 7779. Doesn't that mean "completion"?
So I interpret the verse: a genetic descendant of Eve's, Jesus, will crush the serpent's head, while the serpent's seed will crush His last generation of believers.
I was taught by my denomination, that the serpent here was satan offering the apple to Eve. Then when God said to the serpent in the previous verse,... "upon thy belly thou shalt go, and dust thou shall eat all the days of thy life," that God basically amputated the snake's legs from then on.eternity. Evolutionists have said there is scientific evidence that snakes used to have legs.
So in reality, my Christian denomination taught me that God is the father of evolution. Not only do I refuse to believe that accusation against God, I don't believe the evolutionists either, that snakes used to have legs. They are reptiles. Some have legs, some don't. They are similar.
snake="a snake from it's hiss,whisper a majic spell,divine,enchanter,diligently observe".
Neither do I believe that if satan posessed a snake, that God would punish the snake.
Issue #4- You have to take Gen. #:15 LITERALLY. This prophecy is about to be fulfilled literally, so you also have to take "thy seed" of the serpent literally. So my question is, what is the serpent's seed? It cannot be the only thing in the verse to be taken spiritually can it?
So far I have not made any conclusions to a correlation between the nephilim & serpents seed because I see no other info in the Bible.
J
Hi webchatter.
The Nephilims are the mingling between the sons of God and the daughters of men.
The sons of God are only those sons who are sons of Adam, the son of God.
The daughters of man are those daughters who are of the generation of Cain. Cain is the first "man" without having the title of being a God son. He was a "man son" because he ONLY was a son of Eve, and not a son of Adam. Adam, the King of Eden.
Eve was created in the image of MAN. In the image of Adam.
Adam was created in the image of God. Adam was therefore a God son.
The serpent beguiling Eve, was the beginning of the seed line of the serpent, planted in Eve, the mother of ALL living. Eve was pregnant with the serpent who was the most subtile beast of the field. Almost human. Created to be almost like the God image. Gifted with the ability to reason and speak. The curse of this beast was not the curse to loose its legs. It was the curse to death. Eat dust. Go back to dust.
Outside of the garden the flood separated into four heads.
1. Sons of man with the number 7 from their forefather, Adam the man who entered the day of Gods rest.
2. Daughters of God with the number 7 taken out of Adam and raised to life on the 7th day.
3. Sons of man with the number 6 because of their forefather the serpent created on the 6th day.
4. Daughters of man with the number 6 because of their forefather the serpent created on the 6th day.
This is the four kinds of creatures going out from the blood of Adam through the blood of Eve the mother of all living, after sin came into the world. And we now know the good seed from the evil seed.
Having this in mind, you might have the key to understand why it was not allowed for the sons of God to mingle with the daughters of men. The daughters of men were evil. And this mingling of seed created the giants. The word nephilim means a hybrid. The generation of Cain already was a hybrid race and a mingling between man and the beast. You could as well call Cain a nephilim but he was not a giant.
But the second mingling of seed in the days of Noah did have another effect than the first mingling in the garden of Eden. In the garden of Eden, it was a God daughter, mingling with the male beast. This did not create giants. But it created the generation of man with 6 fingers.
When the Sons of God took themselves daugters of man, then the result became giants. The 6 fingers did they already have in Cain, inherited from the serpent.
The reason for the giants, the Nephilims to be destroyed and then manage to ALSO be found LATER, after the flood, is because of one of the sons of God, Ham, taking himself a daughter of man within the arch.
Ham was the one giving birth to the giants after the flood. There were 7 clean of all kinds and 1 unclean. That also adds up in the number of souls in the arch There were 8 souls in the arch. 1 unclean soul and 7 clean souls. A daughter of the generation of Cain was the only genes taken with into the new cleansed world. And that is what gave the seed of the serpent the chance of raise up its head from the sea. From the sea of man.
The curse of the generation, the seed of the serpent was to go on its belly and eat dust. This old prophecy was in fact fulfilled in Judas Iscariot. Judas went and kissed Jesus. The kiss was the HEEL "hug," BRUISE from the serpent seed. That proved him to be the seed, the son of the serpent.
And then Judas went and hang himself. Condemned is he who is hanging in a tree. Now hanging between heaven and earth, he was cast down to the ground. His head hit the rock and was crushed. His belly was split open. And now everything was fulfilled foretold to the serpent. The same end to their life.
All of this was only the flesh image of the spiritual world. Judas was a devil after the flesh, inherited from his forefather, the serpent. The Israelites also have inherited this evil kind of blood. They were the ones beginning to intermingle their holy seed with us gentiles. They destroyed their good nature by mingling with the branch which was not even in the original creation, the thorns and thistles.
We, the gentiles were not in the original creation of God. We were the ones that God allowed to live because of the fall of Adam. The world shall bear thorns and thistles. That was the curse of Adam. Cain, the first gentile. The word gentile means a field not looked after. Growing wild. God not giving no respect to the offering of Cain, gives Cain the dubious honor of being called the first gentile of this world.
The Nephilims are the mingling between the sons of God and the daughters of men.
The sons of God are only those sons who are sons of Adam, the son of God.
The daughters of man are those daughters who are of the generation of Cain. Cain is the first "man" without having the title of being a God son. He was a "man son" because he ONLY was a son of Eve, and not a son of Adam. Adam, the King of Eden.
Eve was created in the image of MAN. In the image of Adam.
Adam was created in the image of God. Adam was therefore a God son.
The serpent beguiling Eve, was the beginning of the seed line of the serpent, planted in Eve, the mother of ALL living. Eve was pregnant with the serpent who was the most subtile beast of the field. Almost human. Created to be almost like the God image. Gifted with the ability to reason and speak. The curse of this beast was not the curse to loose its legs. It was the curse to death. Eat dust. Go back to dust.
Outside of the garden the flood separated into four heads.
1. Sons of man with the number 7 from their forefather, Adam the man who entered the day of Gods rest.
2. Daughters of God with the number 7 taken out of Adam and raised to life on the 7th day.
3. Sons of man with the number 6 because of their forefather the serpent created on the 6th day.
4. Daughters of man with the number 6 because of their forefather the serpent created on the 6th day.
This is the four kinds of creatures going out from the blood of Adam through the blood of Eve the mother of all living, after sin came into the world. And we now know the good seed from the evil seed.
Having this in mind, you might have the key to understand why it was not allowed for the sons of God to mingle with the daughters of men. The daughters of men were evil. And this mingling of seed created the giants. The word nephilim means a hybrid. The generation of Cain already was a hybrid race and a mingling between man and the beast. You could as well call Cain a nephilim but he was not a giant.
But the second mingling of seed in the days of Noah did have another effect than the first mingling in the garden of Eden. In the garden of Eden, it was a God daughter, mingling with the male beast. This did not create giants. But it created the generation of man with 6 fingers.
When the Sons of God took themselves daugters of man, then the result became giants. The 6 fingers did they already have in Cain, inherited from the serpent.
The reason for the giants, the Nephilims to be destroyed and then manage to ALSO be found LATER, after the flood, is because of one of the sons of God, Ham, taking himself a daughter of man within the arch.
Ham was the one giving birth to the giants after the flood. There were 7 clean of all kinds and 1 unclean. That also adds up in the number of souls in the arch There were 8 souls in the arch. 1 unclean soul and 7 clean souls. A daughter of the generation of Cain was the only genes taken with into the new cleansed world. And that is what gave the seed of the serpent the chance of raise up its head from the sea. From the sea of man.
The curse of the generation, the seed of the serpent was to go on its belly and eat dust. This old prophecy was in fact fulfilled in Judas Iscariot. Judas went and kissed Jesus. The kiss was the HEEL "hug," BRUISE from the serpent seed. That proved him to be the seed, the son of the serpent.
And then Judas went and hang himself. Condemned is he who is hanging in a tree. Now hanging between heaven and earth, he was cast down to the ground. His head hit the rock and was crushed. His belly was split open. And now everything was fulfilled foretold to the serpent. The same end to their life.
All of this was only the flesh image of the spiritual world. Judas was a devil after the flesh, inherited from his forefather, the serpent. The Israelites also have inherited this evil kind of blood. They were the ones beginning to intermingle their holy seed with us gentiles. They destroyed their good nature by mingling with the branch which was not even in the original creation, the thorns and thistles.
We, the gentiles were not in the original creation of God. We were the ones that God allowed to live because of the fall of Adam. The world shall bear thorns and thistles. That was the curse of Adam. Cain, the first gentile. The word gentile means a field not looked after. Growing wild. God not giving no respect to the offering of Cain, gives Cain the dubious honor of being called the first gentile of this world.
I watched an hour and a half documentary on YouTube about them. You Tube can make anything seem plausible. There is quite a bit about them in the book of Enoch. I'm not saying I support the book of Enoch but it is an "interesting" read. All I can say is that if fallen angels fornicated with women before the Flood producing Nephilim, maybe something similar could have taken place after. I might be more confused now about the whole thing then I was before my investigation.
K
1. It's that way in all related cultures. I have pictures from Egyptian tombs and Assyrian temples. They were around; people accepted it.
2. Be careful not to mix the words: Nephilim, raphaim, anakim, geborim,etc. They need not be the same, even if translated the same. "giant" comes from adapting the Greek word "geogeneses", and means "created by or of earth", applied in the translation of this verse in the Septuagint, and used for both nephilim and gibborim.
3. Rapha means to be made healthy or vigorous. A giant has more power than a regular human; hence is "vigorous". God's healing is a restoration of vigor. Capitalization does not exist in Biblical Hebrew; there is no difference in the original.
4. My Strong's 7779 is "bruise". Differentiate between at least three types of serpents. nachash, seraph, and tannen. Check out Moses and the serpent on the pole for the first two, Moses and the Egyptian sorcerers for the third. Be careful to run the word searches in Hebrew, not English. I like "break" or "make a gap in", since nachash is the same word in Egyptian, and this works for the Egyptian use. Note what they used them for at the Temple in Denderah.
You're right, we have gone as far as we can by the Bible alone. You either accept that it's okay to look at other books of the time to understand definitions of words, or you stop here, and settle for whatever's on youtube the next time you go.
2. Be careful not to mix the words: Nephilim, raphaim, anakim, geborim,etc. They need not be the same, even if translated the same. "giant" comes from adapting the Greek word "geogeneses", and means "created by or of earth", applied in the translation of this verse in the Septuagint, and used for both nephilim and gibborim.
3. Rapha means to be made healthy or vigorous. A giant has more power than a regular human; hence is "vigorous". God's healing is a restoration of vigor. Capitalization does not exist in Biblical Hebrew; there is no difference in the original.
4. My Strong's 7779 is "bruise". Differentiate between at least three types of serpents. nachash, seraph, and tannen. Check out Moses and the serpent on the pole for the first two, Moses and the Egyptian sorcerers for the third. Be careful to run the word searches in Hebrew, not English. I like "break" or "make a gap in", since nachash is the same word in Egyptian, and this works for the Egyptian use. Note what they used them for at the Temple in Denderah.
You're right, we have gone as far as we can by the Bible alone. You either accept that it's okay to look at other books of the time to understand definitions of words, or you stop here, and settle for whatever's on youtube the next time you go.
J
Hi kenisyes.
My source is the bible.
Nephilims being the mingling between the sons of God and the daughters of men.
The sin of the sexual nature started off in Eden, when Eve was seduced by the serpent. The seed of the serpent which is the generation of the serpent (Seed gives children) was then born into this world by Eve, the mother of all living. Eve tried to prophecy name on her first born child. And she failed. He was in fact not the Lord. Cain means "this is the Lord". Cain proved himself to be the seed of the serpent. Evil.
Abel proved himself to be the son of Adam. Good.
Eve is the tree of knowledge bearing both good and evil seed. She is the tree of knowledge not having seed in herself.
Adam being created in the image of God according to the bible, proves him to be the father of the sons of God.
Adam gave names to every kind of beast in the world. This job of Adam was the Prophet Adam doing his work before sin ever came in to the world.
After the fall, four new creatures was found in the world. These four kinds of heads have to be given names.
Every beast was created male and female. The serpent was condemned to death, eat dust. The only genes left in the world from the serpent is the genes going out from Eve. Her first born child, Cain. The sign of Cain not to be killed is the wife that he receive from Adam and Eve. A God daughter as a sign not to be killed even he was guilty to death like his father, the serpent. Now Cain was made holy by the woman from Adam with the nature of the number 7. And Cain got both sons and daughters. These sons and daughters do not have the same status of being called God sons and daughters. But they did have the status of being called human being thou. And that is because they were born of the human being Eve. She was created in the image of MAN. Adam was created in the image of God. They did not have there orgin in Adam but in Eve.
The number 7 in Adam is because of his walk with God ending up to become the guarding cherubim of God.
1st cherub head was Adam being a prophet, giving names to every creature that God created. This is the head of the eagle. Prophet.
2nd head of the cherubim is the head of an ox. Adam gave his life to death by being obedient to Gods will for his life. Adam went to deep sleep. He died. Now the ox have been preparing the ground and have sown the naked body to the ground. The head of an ox, the priest head. Adam being priest offering his own flesh to death.
3rd he was raised from the grave on the 7th day. God finished his creation ON THE SEVENTH DAY. By rising his son from death. And now he was not alone, but his wife was at his side. And now the number of Adam is above the beasts of the field, heaven and under the earth, of the sea. He have become King by resurrection from the death. His third head is the Lion head. The King of Eden.
4th head of Adam is when the serpent seduce his wife. Adam then becomes the guarding cherub. The 4th head of the cherubim is the head of a man and also called the head of a cherubim. This is the image of God fulfilled through knowledge of good and evil and being given the life in the second "skin" that God provided for Adam. Adam became then the guarding cherubim that guarded the "way" to the tree of life, which was planted in the woman, even by promise. The "seed of the woman" is the tree of LIFE. The woman now guarded by Adam with the flaming sword from his mouth killing the serpent.
As also Jesus did to Judas, when he sent Judas out to the outer darkness. He ended up hanging himself without hope and without God in this world.
My source to these statements are all from the bible.
The serpent being the most subtile beast of the field. Almost human. Created to be almost like the God image. Gifted with the ability to reason and speak makes him the perfect image of antichrist. Seduce the elect if possible.
The curse of this beast was not the curse to loose its legs. It was the curse to death. Eat dust. Go back to dust. This was the exact same thing that happened to the seed, the son of the serpent, Judas Iscariot.
THIS STATEMENT:
Outside of the garden the flood separated into four heads.
1. Sons of man with the number 7 from their forefather, Adam the man who entered the day of Gods rest.
2. Daughters of God with the number 7 taken out of Adam and raised to life on the 7th day.
3. Sons of man with the number 6 because of their forefather the serpent created on the 6th day.
4. Daughters of man with the number 6 because of their forefather the serpent created on the 6th day.
Is the statement on the fact of the splitting up of the mankind into four kind of creatures, born after the fall. If you do not find four heads after the fall of sin in the garden, the the bible is giving statements not found in the bible afterwards. But they are all there. Four heads.
This is the four kinds of creatures going out from the blood of Adam through the blood of Eve the mother of all living, after sin came into the world. And we now know the good seed from the evil seed.
The statement..:
It was not allowed for the sons of God to mingle with the daughters of men. The daughters of men were evil. And this mingling of seed created the giants. The word nephilim means a hybrid. The generation of Cain already was a hybrid race and a mingling between man and the beast. You could as well call Cain a nephilim but he was not a giant.
...is proven throughout the OT. It was the unwritten but thou written rule from Eden in the life of Rebecca and Isaac not to let their son Jacob marry a Hetite woman. If he did then their whole life had been in vain. This same thing was that important throughout the generation of Israel not taking themselves canaanites into their tents. For doing so the plage started immediately in the days of Moses.
This statement..:
But the second mingling of seed in the days of Noah did have another effect than the first mingling in the garden of Eden. In the garden of Eden, it was a God daughter, mingling with the male beast. This did not create giants. But it created the generation of man with 6 fingers.
When the Sons of God took themselves daughters of man, then the result became giants. The 6 fingers did they already have in Cain, inherited from the serpent.
...is the way the bible spells it out to happen. But when people fail to understand the sin in the garden of Eden they go astray with plain scripture and makes it spirit angels committing sin in FLESH that they do not have. That kind of statements is not in the bible. The NT statement "what is born of flesh is flesh. What is born of spirit is spirit" might settle the argument of angels intermingle with flesh and blood.
The statement...:
The reason for the giants, the Nephilims to be destroyed and then manage to ALSO be found LATER, after the flood, is because of one of the sons of God, Ham, taking himself a daughter of man within the arch.
Ham was the one giving birth to the giants after the flood. There were 7 clean of all kinds and 1 unclean. That also adds up in the number of souls in the arch There were 8 souls in the arch. 1 unclean soul and 7 clean souls. A daughter of the generation of Cain was the only genes taken with into the new cleansed world. And that is what gave the seed of the serpent the chance of raise up its head from the sea. From the sea of man.
...is found in the generation of Ham. He was the one proving to give birth to the generation of giants. The Canaanites.
These statements..:
The curse of the generation, the seed of the serpent was to go on its belly and eat dust. This old prophecy was in fact fulfilled in Judas Iscariot. Judas went and kissed Jesus. The kiss was the HEEL "hug," BRUISE from the serpent seed. That proved him to be the seed, the son of the serpent.
And then Judas went and hang himself. Condemned is he who is hanging in a tree. Now hanging between heaven and earth, he was cast down to the ground. His head hit the rock and was crushed. His belly was split open. And now everything was fulfilled foretold to the serpent. The same end to their life.
...The kiss is the betray, the heel "hug" bruise from the seed of the serpent. The source is the opening of the book, the spirit of God opening the bible.
This statement..:
All of this was only the flesh image of the spiritual world. Judas was a devil after the flesh, inherited from his forefather, the serpent. The Israelites also have inherited this evil kind of blood. They were the ones beginning ((in the days of Noah)) to intermingle their holy seed with us gentiles. They destroyed their good nature by mingling with the branch which was not even in the original creation, the thorns and thistles.
...is from the words from Jesus saying if you do not believe when I speak to you of the earthly things how can you then believe the heavenly.
The earthly things came with the first Adam. Then the heavenly things came with Jesus Christ our Lord and God.
This statement..:
We, the gentiles were not in the original creation of God. We were the ones that God allowed to live because of the fall of Adam. The world shall bear thorns and thistles. That was the curse of Adam. Cain, the first gentile. The word gentile means a field not looked after. Growing wild. God not giving no respect to the offering of Cain, gives Cain the dubious honor of being called the first gentile of this world.
...is the secret to understand what was the thorn in the flesh of Paul. It was a gentile following after Paul speaking against the gospel of Paul. "THIS MAN IS PREACHING STRANGE GODS THAT WE DO NOT KNOW OF CALLED JESUS CHRIST" And the people were boiling angry against Paul for preaching strange gods to then. But the truth was he preached the gospel of Jesus being Christ our God. Before he ever got the chance to explain himself they were over him to beat him up. Now that is a thorn in the flesh. A messenger sent out from satan to make preaching the gospel a fight with flesh and blood and wild beasts of Ephesus.
My source is the bible.
Nephilims being the mingling between the sons of God and the daughters of men.
The sin of the sexual nature started off in Eden, when Eve was seduced by the serpent. The seed of the serpent which is the generation of the serpent (Seed gives children) was then born into this world by Eve, the mother of all living. Eve tried to prophecy name on her first born child. And she failed. He was in fact not the Lord. Cain means "this is the Lord". Cain proved himself to be the seed of the serpent. Evil.
Abel proved himself to be the son of Adam. Good.
Eve is the tree of knowledge bearing both good and evil seed. She is the tree of knowledge not having seed in herself.
Adam being created in the image of God according to the bible, proves him to be the father of the sons of God.
Adam gave names to every kind of beast in the world. This job of Adam was the Prophet Adam doing his work before sin ever came in to the world.
After the fall, four new creatures was found in the world. These four kinds of heads have to be given names.
Every beast was created male and female. The serpent was condemned to death, eat dust. The only genes left in the world from the serpent is the genes going out from Eve. Her first born child, Cain. The sign of Cain not to be killed is the wife that he receive from Adam and Eve. A God daughter as a sign not to be killed even he was guilty to death like his father, the serpent. Now Cain was made holy by the woman from Adam with the nature of the number 7. And Cain got both sons and daughters. These sons and daughters do not have the same status of being called God sons and daughters. But they did have the status of being called human being thou. And that is because they were born of the human being Eve. She was created in the image of MAN. Adam was created in the image of God. They did not have there orgin in Adam but in Eve.
The number 7 in Adam is because of his walk with God ending up to become the guarding cherubim of God.
1st cherub head was Adam being a prophet, giving names to every creature that God created. This is the head of the eagle. Prophet.
2nd head of the cherubim is the head of an ox. Adam gave his life to death by being obedient to Gods will for his life. Adam went to deep sleep. He died. Now the ox have been preparing the ground and have sown the naked body to the ground. The head of an ox, the priest head. Adam being priest offering his own flesh to death.
3rd he was raised from the grave on the 7th day. God finished his creation ON THE SEVENTH DAY. By rising his son from death. And now he was not alone, but his wife was at his side. And now the number of Adam is above the beasts of the field, heaven and under the earth, of the sea. He have become King by resurrection from the death. His third head is the Lion head. The King of Eden.
4th head of Adam is when the serpent seduce his wife. Adam then becomes the guarding cherub. The 4th head of the cherubim is the head of a man and also called the head of a cherubim. This is the image of God fulfilled through knowledge of good and evil and being given the life in the second "skin" that God provided for Adam. Adam became then the guarding cherubim that guarded the "way" to the tree of life, which was planted in the woman, even by promise. The "seed of the woman" is the tree of LIFE. The woman now guarded by Adam with the flaming sword from his mouth killing the serpent.
As also Jesus did to Judas, when he sent Judas out to the outer darkness. He ended up hanging himself without hope and without God in this world.
My source to these statements are all from the bible.
The serpent being the most subtile beast of the field. Almost human. Created to be almost like the God image. Gifted with the ability to reason and speak makes him the perfect image of antichrist. Seduce the elect if possible.
The curse of this beast was not the curse to loose its legs. It was the curse to death. Eat dust. Go back to dust. This was the exact same thing that happened to the seed, the son of the serpent, Judas Iscariot.
THIS STATEMENT:
Outside of the garden the flood separated into four heads.
1. Sons of man with the number 7 from their forefather, Adam the man who entered the day of Gods rest.
2. Daughters of God with the number 7 taken out of Adam and raised to life on the 7th day.
3. Sons of man with the number 6 because of their forefather the serpent created on the 6th day.
4. Daughters of man with the number 6 because of their forefather the serpent created on the 6th day.
Is the statement on the fact of the splitting up of the mankind into four kind of creatures, born after the fall. If you do not find four heads after the fall of sin in the garden, the the bible is giving statements not found in the bible afterwards. But they are all there. Four heads.
This is the four kinds of creatures going out from the blood of Adam through the blood of Eve the mother of all living, after sin came into the world. And we now know the good seed from the evil seed.
The statement..:
It was not allowed for the sons of God to mingle with the daughters of men. The daughters of men were evil. And this mingling of seed created the giants. The word nephilim means a hybrid. The generation of Cain already was a hybrid race and a mingling between man and the beast. You could as well call Cain a nephilim but he was not a giant.
...is proven throughout the OT. It was the unwritten but thou written rule from Eden in the life of Rebecca and Isaac not to let their son Jacob marry a Hetite woman. If he did then their whole life had been in vain. This same thing was that important throughout the generation of Israel not taking themselves canaanites into their tents. For doing so the plage started immediately in the days of Moses.
This statement..:
But the second mingling of seed in the days of Noah did have another effect than the first mingling in the garden of Eden. In the garden of Eden, it was a God daughter, mingling with the male beast. This did not create giants. But it created the generation of man with 6 fingers.
When the Sons of God took themselves daughters of man, then the result became giants. The 6 fingers did they already have in Cain, inherited from the serpent.
...is the way the bible spells it out to happen. But when people fail to understand the sin in the garden of Eden they go astray with plain scripture and makes it spirit angels committing sin in FLESH that they do not have. That kind of statements is not in the bible. The NT statement "what is born of flesh is flesh. What is born of spirit is spirit" might settle the argument of angels intermingle with flesh and blood.
The statement...:
The reason for the giants, the Nephilims to be destroyed and then manage to ALSO be found LATER, after the flood, is because of one of the sons of God, Ham, taking himself a daughter of man within the arch.
Ham was the one giving birth to the giants after the flood. There were 7 clean of all kinds and 1 unclean. That also adds up in the number of souls in the arch There were 8 souls in the arch. 1 unclean soul and 7 clean souls. A daughter of the generation of Cain was the only genes taken with into the new cleansed world. And that is what gave the seed of the serpent the chance of raise up its head from the sea. From the sea of man.
...is found in the generation of Ham. He was the one proving to give birth to the generation of giants. The Canaanites.
These statements..:
The curse of the generation, the seed of the serpent was to go on its belly and eat dust. This old prophecy was in fact fulfilled in Judas Iscariot. Judas went and kissed Jesus. The kiss was the HEEL "hug," BRUISE from the serpent seed. That proved him to be the seed, the son of the serpent.
And then Judas went and hang himself. Condemned is he who is hanging in a tree. Now hanging between heaven and earth, he was cast down to the ground. His head hit the rock and was crushed. His belly was split open. And now everything was fulfilled foretold to the serpent. The same end to their life.
...The kiss is the betray, the heel "hug" bruise from the seed of the serpent. The source is the opening of the book, the spirit of God opening the bible.
This statement..:
All of this was only the flesh image of the spiritual world. Judas was a devil after the flesh, inherited from his forefather, the serpent. The Israelites also have inherited this evil kind of blood. They were the ones beginning ((in the days of Noah)) to intermingle their holy seed with us gentiles. They destroyed their good nature by mingling with the branch which was not even in the original creation, the thorns and thistles.
...is from the words from Jesus saying if you do not believe when I speak to you of the earthly things how can you then believe the heavenly.
The earthly things came with the first Adam. Then the heavenly things came with Jesus Christ our Lord and God.
This statement..:
We, the gentiles were not in the original creation of God. We were the ones that God allowed to live because of the fall of Adam. The world shall bear thorns and thistles. That was the curse of Adam. Cain, the first gentile. The word gentile means a field not looked after. Growing wild. God not giving no respect to the offering of Cain, gives Cain the dubious honor of being called the first gentile of this world.
...is the secret to understand what was the thorn in the flesh of Paul. It was a gentile following after Paul speaking against the gospel of Paul. "THIS MAN IS PREACHING STRANGE GODS THAT WE DO NOT KNOW OF CALLED JESUS CHRIST" And the people were boiling angry against Paul for preaching strange gods to then. But the truth was he preached the gospel of Jesus being Christ our God. Before he ever got the chance to explain himself they were over him to beat him up. Now that is a thorn in the flesh. A messenger sent out from satan to make preaching the gospel a fight with flesh and blood and wild beasts of Ephesus.
K
I have marked * by passages that I know of no Scripture or past interpretation to support. Please provide verses.
I have marked X by those statements where I know Scriptures or long standing traditions that prove them wrong.
I have marked C by your conclusions that are right or wrong in accordance with how you respond to X and *.
i tried to mark - by statements where I know Scripture teaches this.
I don't know if I got it all. It's pretty long. And I've never heard anything like it from and Jewish or Christian source. Still, if it is really in the Word it must be true.
I have marked X by those statements where I know Scriptures or long standing traditions that prove them wrong.
I have marked C by your conclusions that are right or wrong in accordance with how you respond to X and *.
i tried to mark - by statements where I know Scripture teaches this.
I don't know if I got it all. It's pretty long. And I've never heard anything like it from and Jewish or Christian source. Still, if it is really in the Word it must be true.
J
Originally Posted by JoenEriksen
Hi kenisyes.
The sexual act in the bible is called to KNOW your wife. It is never called to make love, have sex. The tree of knowledge is the woman. She was good for food, to make one wise. The words from Gen 3:6 fits just perfect to the woman. “the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise,”
Matt. 1:25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
What kind of knowledge is it that Josef did not know? The knowledge in the tree of knowledge of cause. There is a knowledge in the woman that Adam was denied, being the image of God. She, the tree of knowledge was the only tree in the garden created without seed in her self. But God put a seed in her by promise. And after the fall, they were not allowed to ALSO eat of the tree of Life. But the tree of knowledge was now their only hope to ever get access to the tree of Life. And where do I find that in the bible? I find it in the words ALSO.
Gen. 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
There is no way back. The tree of knowledge have been touched. Now this is his way back to salvation.
The tree of Life was by the promise of God planted in her in genesis when God said: I put enmity between the seed of the serpent and the SEED of the WOMAN. Jesus Christ the tree of Life planted in the woman. This is all there in Genesis by revelation.
Gen. 4:1 …and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
This is Eve giving accout for her first born son. Her words puts the name out there. “I have gotten a man from the LORD” These words means “Cain” If you say Cain then you say “This is the Lord” She was wrong. He was most certainly not the Lord, he was the first born of the “egyptian, the gentile, the Esau” The first born child that God was against.
Abel of cause also was first born. Even he was born second. He was the first born child of Adam. This statement is not written directly in the bible, I admit that, but the truth is hidden to the wise of this world and revealed to his servants.
The secret of iniquity is revealed to be in the serpent and not in the image of God, Adam.
Gen.1:11 … Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself
This is the trees created to reproduce themselves by their own seed IN the tree IN ITSELF.
And in Gen. 2:9 … the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
What kind of seed is that? Bearing GOOD and EVIL fruit but not in itself. Where dos this good and evil seed come from. Well the bible talks about seed in the next chapter Gen.3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
The woman eats of this tree twise.
Eve did eat twice of the tree of knowledge. The first evil knowledge was with the serpent. Gen. 3:13 The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
Second time she did eat of the knowledge was when she went to her husband and made him eat of the knowledge. He was the good knowledge knowing the tree of knowledge, Eve. Gen. 3:6 … she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
This is the second time she eat of the tree. Unto her husband WITH HER. Once more time. And this second time was the good seed delivered to the tree of knowledge, Eve.
Gen. 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
The other incident of this kind is when Judas Iscariot died the same way.
Matt.27:5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.
Acts 1:18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.
Judas did not just die. He died in the image of the serpent. Head crushed. Belly split open. Eat dust.
Gen.4:15 … Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold.
Why sevenfold? Because he received a gift of grace, a wife. A daughter of Adam with the nature of the 7th day.
The number of mankind in Adam is 7 because of Adam being obedient to death, deep sleep. And God finished his work on the 7th day by resurrection from the death. Adam brought back to life on the 7th day. This is why Adam´s number is 7 and the number of the beast which is also the number of a man 6 is a mystery.
Gen.2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made
The end of the work of God was not completely ended when Jesus said “IT IS FINISHED” John 19:30 But it ended to perfection when Jesus was risen from the grave on the 3rd day.
The end of the work of God was not ended when Adam went to DEEP SLEEP. It was finished when he was risen from the dead into the 7th day.
As also Jesus did to Judas, when he sent Judas out to the outer darkness. He ended up hanging himself without hope and without God in this world.
John 13:18 I speak not of you all: I know whom I have chosen: but that the scripture may be fulfilled, He that eateth bread with me hath lifted up his heel against me.
John 13:27 And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.
By these words Jesus send Judas into his certain death.
And John 13:28 Now no man at the table knew for what intent he spake this unto him.
But now we do know. He condemned the seed of the serpent to death. That was his work. To put and end to the enmity between the two parts fighting. Flesh against flesh. The gentile enmity against the people of God. Enmity put in between them by the word of God from the beginning. I put enmity…Gen.3:15
The serpent being the most subtile beast of the field. Almost human. Created to be almost like the God image. Gifted with the ability to reason and speak makes him the perfect image of antichrist. Seduce the elect if possible.
Mark 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
And we now know the result of this evil kind of seduce in the flesh. It created evil human beings who kill for a scratch. Gen.4:23 …I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt.
Evilness inherited in the generation of Cain and his father the serpent. The mystery of iniquity in the flesh revealed.
2.Tess.2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
The spiritual iniquity starts of at the same way. The church led astray from the GOOD seed of God, giving birth to evil Christianity born of the devil. Foretold by the prophet Paul in 2.Cor.11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
The church of God, in danger of being seduced, the REAL woman, the church. And this fear of Paul in 2.Cor.11:13 is what came to pass and created the synagogue of Satan found in Rev.2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich ) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
This synagogue was born of the woman, the church. The woman is the church in the spiritual world. The spiritual world came with Jesus Christ the Life Creating Spirit. 1.Cor.15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
Hi kenisyes.
The sexual act in the bible is called to KNOW your wife. It is never called to make love, have sex. The tree of knowledge is the woman. She was good for food, to make one wise. The words from Gen 3:6 fits just perfect to the woman. “the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise,”
Matt. 1:25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
What kind of knowledge is it that Josef did not know? The knowledge in the tree of knowledge of cause. There is a knowledge in the woman that Adam was denied, being the image of God. She, the tree of knowledge was the only tree in the garden created without seed in her self. But God put a seed in her by promise. And after the fall, they were not allowed to ALSO eat of the tree of Life. But the tree of knowledge was now their only hope to ever get access to the tree of Life. And where do I find that in the bible? I find it in the words ALSO.
Gen. 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
There is no way back. The tree of knowledge have been touched. Now this is his way back to salvation.
The tree of Life was by the promise of God planted in her in genesis when God said: I put enmity between the seed of the serpent and the SEED of the WOMAN. Jesus Christ the tree of Life planted in the woman. This is all there in Genesis by revelation.
Gen. 4:1 …and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
This is Eve giving accout for her first born son. Her words puts the name out there. “I have gotten a man from the LORD” These words means “Cain” If you say Cain then you say “This is the Lord” She was wrong. He was most certainly not the Lord, he was the first born of the “egyptian, the gentile, the Esau” The first born child that God was against.
Abel of cause also was first born. Even he was born second. He was the first born child of Adam. This statement is not written directly in the bible, I admit that, but the truth is hidden to the wise of this world and revealed to his servants.
The secret of iniquity is revealed to be in the serpent and not in the image of God, Adam.
Gen.1:11 … Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself
This is the trees created to reproduce themselves by their own seed IN the tree IN ITSELF.
And in Gen. 2:9 … the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
What kind of seed is that? Bearing GOOD and EVIL fruit but not in itself. Where dos this good and evil seed come from. Well the bible talks about seed in the next chapter Gen.3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
The woman eats of this tree twise.
Eve did eat twice of the tree of knowledge. The first evil knowledge was with the serpent. Gen. 3:13 The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
Second time she did eat of the knowledge was when she went to her husband and made him eat of the knowledge. He was the good knowledge knowing the tree of knowledge, Eve. Gen. 3:6 … she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
This is the second time she eat of the tree. Unto her husband WITH HER. Once more time. And this second time was the good seed delivered to the tree of knowledge, Eve.
Gen. 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
The other incident of this kind is when Judas Iscariot died the same way.
Matt.27:5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.
Acts 1:18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.
Judas did not just die. He died in the image of the serpent. Head crushed. Belly split open. Eat dust.
Gen.4:15 … Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold.
Why sevenfold? Because he received a gift of grace, a wife. A daughter of Adam with the nature of the 7th day.
The number of mankind in Adam is 7 because of Adam being obedient to death, deep sleep. And God finished his work on the 7th day by resurrection from the death. Adam brought back to life on the 7th day. This is why Adam´s number is 7 and the number of the beast which is also the number of a man 6 is a mystery.
Gen.2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made
The end of the work of God was not completely ended when Jesus said “IT IS FINISHED” John 19:30 But it ended to perfection when Jesus was risen from the grave on the 3rd day.
The end of the work of God was not ended when Adam went to DEEP SLEEP. It was finished when he was risen from the dead into the 7th day.
As also Jesus did to Judas, when he sent Judas out to the outer darkness. He ended up hanging himself without hope and without God in this world.
John 13:18 I speak not of you all: I know whom I have chosen: but that the scripture may be fulfilled, He that eateth bread with me hath lifted up his heel against me.
John 13:27 And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.
By these words Jesus send Judas into his certain death.
And John 13:28 Now no man at the table knew for what intent he spake this unto him.
But now we do know. He condemned the seed of the serpent to death. That was his work. To put and end to the enmity between the two parts fighting. Flesh against flesh. The gentile enmity against the people of God. Enmity put in between them by the word of God from the beginning. I put enmity…Gen.3:15
The serpent being the most subtile beast of the field. Almost human. Created to be almost like the God image. Gifted with the ability to reason and speak makes him the perfect image of antichrist. Seduce the elect if possible.
Mark 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
And we now know the result of this evil kind of seduce in the flesh. It created evil human beings who kill for a scratch. Gen.4:23 …I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt.
Evilness inherited in the generation of Cain and his father the serpent. The mystery of iniquity in the flesh revealed.
2.Tess.2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
The spiritual iniquity starts of at the same way. The church led astray from the GOOD seed of God, giving birth to evil Christianity born of the devil. Foretold by the prophet Paul in 2.Cor.11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
The church of God, in danger of being seduced, the REAL woman, the church. And this fear of Paul in 2.Cor.11:13 is what came to pass and created the synagogue of Satan found in Rev.2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich ) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
This synagogue was born of the woman, the church. The woman is the church in the spiritual world. The spiritual world came with Jesus Christ the Life Creating Spirit. 1.Cor.15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
J
The flood coming up from the ground is the life of Adam. In the bloodline of Adam you find the stones of bdellium, onyx stones and gold.
Gen.2:10-12 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.
The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;
And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.
Exodus 25:6-7 Oil for the light, spices for anointing oil, and for sweet incense, Onyx stones, and stones to be set in the ephod, and in the breastplate.
The stones in the breast of Adam is the wisdom of Adam. The gold is the image of the goodness and holiness of Adam, found in his breast.
These are the stones also described to be in the breast of the cherubims.
Ezekiel 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
The cherubims are NOT satan. It have never been the job of Satan to guard the WAY to the tree of Life. It was Adam who became the guarding cherubim to the way to the tree of Life. The tree of Life Jesus Christ, born of the woman, born of the generation of Adam, saved by the seed of Adam through childbearing.
God created these stones in him before the fall. The fall proved the stones to be like God. Burning stones in fire. It activated the sword of Fire from his mouth, when he knew the good and the evil. He became the Cherubim through the fall and resurrection.
The story of Ezekiel is the story of the fall of the sons of God. Falling away from the goodness in heart. Loosing their shining stones by mingling themselves with gentile nature. Ezekiel giving the sad message of their destruction. The kings around them saw their fall. The fall of the cherubims, the people of God falling in the hands of the living God, the consuming fire. Deuteronomy 4:24 For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.
Ezekiel 28:14-17
Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
The giants was not a reality until the sons of God took themselves daughters of man to their wives.
Gen.6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days
Those days are the days of Noah. Not before that time. Before that time we only had the result of the union between the serpent and Eve. Cain with 6 fingers. The prove of Cain having 6 fingers is in his generation. You do not get human kind with 6 fingers unless it was there in the past. The serpent is the only forefather in the past spelling out this secret by the knowledge of the seed, the generation of the serpent.
It mingled the blood lines of humankind into 4 types of blood. A, AB, B and O. The rhesus type is from the beast in the garden. I believe Adam and Eve to be the O negative blood type inside the garden.
To be found also later happened when:
Gen.6:4 …and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
After that was of cause only possible because one of the sons of Noah took himself one of these forbidden fruits within the arch of Noah. Ham was guilty of this sin. But Noah was righteous in the sight of God. The wife of Noah was NOT such a man daughter as some teachers claim her to be.
Goliath the Gittite was from Philistine which is the dwelling place of the generations of the Canaanites.
NUMBERS 33:55 But if ye will not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you; then it shall come to pass, that those which ye let remain of them shall be pricks in your eyes, and thorns in your sides, and shall vex you in the land wherein ye dwell.
JOHN 13:18 …He that eateth bread with me hath lifted up his heel against me.
Galatians 3:13 …Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree.
Numbers 25:6-8 And, behold, one of the children of Israel came and brought unto his brethren a Midianitish woman in the sight of Moses, and in the sight of all the congregation of the children of Israel, who were weeping before the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.
And when Phinehas, the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the priest, saw it, he rose up from among the congregation, and took a javelin in his hand;
And he went after the man of Israel into the tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of Israel, and the woman through her belly. So the plague was stayed from the children of Israel.
Even when Moses was alive they did this evil thing. Taking themselves daughters of MAN to their wives. It was not allowed.
And also after his death they did this evil deed and it became their fall.
I have only added scriptures to my statements that you marked with the *
W
"sons of God", in my opinion are not human, throughout Scripture, & I never saw anything in Scripture that said the serpent got Eve pregnant. Joen I would have to make some assumptions to believe "sons of God" are human, not angels.
Yes Kenisyes, I think, at this point, that I would have to learn Hebrew & Greek to fully comprehend all of this. I am VERY careful what I watch on the internet & youtube in regards to the Bible. I'm too old to learn a new language!!! lol I have seen skeletons of giants discovered by archaeologists & understand some are in museums.
However, for thousands of years end time prophecies were taken spiritually. Oiur knowledge/technology has increased as Daniel predicted, to the point where all can be fullfilled literally.
How were there giants after the flood?
Yes Kenisyes, I think, at this point, that I would have to learn Hebrew & Greek to fully comprehend all of this. I am VERY careful what I watch on the internet & youtube in regards to the Bible. I'm too old to learn a new language!!! lol I have seen skeletons of giants discovered by archaeologists & understand some are in museums.
However, for thousands of years end time prophecies were taken spiritually. Oiur knowledge/technology has increased as Daniel predicted, to the point where all can be fullfilled literally.
How were there giants after the flood?
K
Obviously this is a guess, but is based on the ancient writings, etc.: Giants were created before the flood by the nephilim. The nephilim are people voluntarily possessed by demons, after centuries of first praying to God, then rejecting Him. The demons taught them genetic manipulation and artificial insemination. We know the people before the flood wrote many records of parts of their technology taught them by the demons. We can assume the technology was read and used again by new sets of people.