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Cup of Rain,
I have no reason at all to simply take your word for it. Please give credible resources for your assertions. All that you have stated sounds absolutely ridiculous.
I have a good friend who is a preacher who also has a degree in astrophysics. He was a National Merit Scholar who got a full ride to a large university. He would say that much of what you have put forth is just goofy.
I have no reason at all to simply take your word for it. Please give credible resources for your assertions. All that you have stated sounds absolutely ridiculous.
I have a good friend who is a preacher who also has a degree in astrophysics. He was a National Merit Scholar who got a full ride to a large university. He would say that much of what you have put forth is just goofy.
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Your friend has been indoctrinated into the worldly system of Kabbahla creationism, this is a very ancient system, it is not God's system, Jesus says that His kingdom is not of this world, the Prince of this world is Satan, if you want worldy reward and recognition you must follow Satan, it is he that can give you all postitions of authority and power in this world, but Jesus says that the world hates Him and that a Christian must hate the world and everything in it because it's ways are not God's ways.
God offers a Christian three things... He offered me three things; Truth, a crucifixtion to the world and the judgement to come! Being a Christian will put you at odds with the world, you will hate the world and every day you die, you get crucified.
"Our inheritence has been turned away to aliens, our houses to strangers: we are become orphans, we have no father, our mothers are widows, we have drunk our water for money, our wood is sold to us for a burden round our necks, we have been persecuted, we have laboured, we have had no rest." Lamentations 5:2
If pretend christians want to pay God lip service that is their own decision, if they want to be initiated into the kabbahla mysteries, the cosmic egg explosion science, then that is their own choice, if you want to follow Baal then follow Baal, but if you want to follow the Most High, then follow Him, but don't be hypocritical, don't act as if worldly achievement and recognition equates to holiness and Godliness.
God offers a Christian three things... He offered me three things; Truth, a crucifixtion to the world and the judgement to come! Being a Christian will put you at odds with the world, you will hate the world and every day you die, you get crucified.
"Our inheritence has been turned away to aliens, our houses to strangers: we are become orphans, we have no father, our mothers are widows, we have drunk our water for money, our wood is sold to us for a burden round our necks, we have been persecuted, we have laboured, we have had no rest." Lamentations 5:2
If pretend christians want to pay God lip service that is their own decision, if they want to be initiated into the kabbahla mysteries, the cosmic egg explosion science, then that is their own choice, if you want to follow Baal then follow Baal, but if you want to follow the Most High, then follow Him, but don't be hypocritical, don't act as if worldly achievement and recognition equates to holiness and Godliness.
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Greetings again Slepsog,
Giving you the proof neccessary to build an entire cosmology may take quite a long time, perhaps you would like to be more specific, is there something in particular that you would like evidence or proof of, I have covered alot of ground so don't just start shouting out 'gimme proof'! I have given concise evidence, brief, but it is sufficient, but if you want more than tell me what in particular, define your question better, if you don't mind.
Giving you the proof neccessary to build an entire cosmology may take quite a long time, perhaps you would like to be more specific, is there something in particular that you would like evidence or proof of, I have covered alot of ground so don't just start shouting out 'gimme proof'! I have given concise evidence, brief, but it is sufficient, but if you want more than tell me what in particular, define your question better, if you don't mind.
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Yes I have, you just havn't bothered to read through the thread to find it, what is to say that I give it to you again you will just continue to ignore it, should I have to keep on repeating myself, there is only one way that the horizon of the earth can be described with a compass and remain consistant to the human perspective, the only conclusion to the rational human mind is the earth is a sphere, this is in fact the best way to describe the earth's shape, if you wanted to communicate it, you would be best to say that the earth's surface is a circumference it is described as circular, if you know Hebrew and Greek to a sufficient level you will understand that the Bible is correctly explaining the earth as a sphere, it would not be correct to call the earth a 'ball', that is not accurate, but to say that the line of the earth surface is a description from the application of a compass, formed as a circuit, the only interpretation can be sphere.
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No you see how God refers to the sun and moon and stars as all being different, this is always consistant in the Bible, stars are never described as other suns or being like our sun, no they are actually always given a water description and association, this verse does not say "rain" it says "stars" that have been "stablished for ever and ever" the word "ever" here actually translates as "ages", it should read in English "stablished for ages of ages." Rain is not established for ages and ages, but stars are stablished in the firmament, the "firmamnent" in which stars are stablished is very real and it moves, it revolves around the earth, this is why the North Star Polaris is stationary, the earth does not rotate on its axis, the entire universal firmamnent does, it encases us like a giant orb.
Waters above the heavens most likely refers to the ancient sky-dome flat-earth belief, that there were actually water outside of the hard sky dome firmanent that would pour down causing rain when one of the portal sky-dome windows would open. Meteorology and our understanding of how rain forms and why has come a long way since then.
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