You would marry a divorced person, knowing that the bible states it is adultery?

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Blooming_Violet

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MarkayMrk777 said:
This whole discussion reminds me of the first sin.
God says, "Don't eat of the tree"
Satan says, "Did God really say don't eat of the tree?"
Trying to make them question it.

It is real simple. God said it. That settles it.

God says multiple times don't do it. So just don't.
Stand on the Word of God!
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Nothing is ever that easy. Here is my question that does not make sense to me.


1 Corinthians 7:8-9
New International Version (NIV)
8*Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. 9*But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.



So the recommendation in this verse is that if you are full of passion, it is better to marry than to burn with passion. If you have been married, hopefully at some point you have experienced passion. It seems to me that if you are divorced or put aside for whatever reason, since you have eaten of the forbidden fruit it would be more likely for you to crave it then someone who has not. Translation you would burn with passion. Is it not then better to marry? Or if it is more than you could bear should you pray for the death of your spouse for your freedom? Or for that matter your death? What really are your options? I often wonder what was Abigail's prayer.


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isaria

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I dont see it a sin to be divorced.

Think how many miserable , abusive marriages.


Think of those marriages where someone only married you for your money which means it was not with God or love but merely to use you.


Was reading about a wife whom was tortured by her husband for over 30 years and police could not help her even he was so well known.
First after 30 years could she divorse him and she was terrified for herself and her children.
Then she could be happy.
She could feel loved, beautiful, appreciated and not just used and abused and hated.
Not a word of love did he say to her during there marriage.
She had to protect her children and herself.

Is that a real marriage?

They also say no to marry same sex but churches are allowing it.
Not saying whats right or wrong but thats not following the book either perhaps.


Maybe someone married you for the wrong reasons , everything but love.
Maybe they had another partner the whole time and they were both just using you.

sleep with enemy where he abused and raped her, she escaped to find a new man who respected her and loved her and was good to her.


Surely one deserves right to love and to move on past a unhappy marriage.

And move on to better things.
 
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meggars

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NightOwl said:
Women my age are either married, divorced or unattractive....
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Geeeze, don't hold back or anything :p Since I'm neither married or divorced I guess I must be the 3rd option. Sucks to be me.
 
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meggars

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seoulsearch said:
And may you find peace and comfort from all the good, well-meaning Christians who tell you that you must spend the rest of your life alone, without any hope of ever having a companion again.
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Would that necessarily be the case though? The way I've always seen it is that if the only acceptable reason for divorce is infidelity and that marrying someone else after divorce would technically make you an adulterer if you divorce for some other reason. So now if i get married and my husband decides he simply doesn't want to be with me anymore, couldn't I just wait until HE's in a relationship again, making HIM the adulterer which legitimizes the divorce as far as the bible is concerned and then I'm free and clear?
 
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Blooming_Violet said:
Nothing is ever that easy. Here is my question that does not make sense to me.


1 Corinthians 7:8-9
New International Version (NIV)
8*Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. 9*But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.



So the recommendation in this verse is that if you are full of passion, it is better to marry than to burn with passion. If you have been married, hopefully at some point you have experienced passion. It seems to me that if you are divorced or put aside for whatever reason, since you have eaten of the forbidden fruit it would be more likely for you to crave it then someone who has not. Translation you would burn with passion. Is it not then better to marry? Or if it is more than you could bear should you pray for the death of your spouse for your freedom? Or for that matter your death? What really are your options? I often wonder what was Abigail's prayer.


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A weak argument. You're taking a verse expressly directed toward unmarried people and widows and applying it to groups of people that it was not intended for. If you start doing that then can get all kinds of unreasonable conclusions. For example; what about teenagers? Teenagers probably "burn with passion" more than most adults do, so is it better for a 13 year old to get married?
 
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Blooming_Violet

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Why would God condemn someone with someone else's sin? Should a divorced person ultimately be a martyr? Divorce has a terrible stigma, but so does not protecting your family. I have heard it said that women in abusive relationships return to their abusers 7 times before they actually try to stay away. Women are so much stronger then they look. We believe that it is OK if it is just us being hurt, but I have to say that God will give you a wake up call when it is your children. So I am asking, when do you seek happiness? Do you pray for death, but then who will protect the children? Do you seek help knowing you will be divorced? Are you never to dream of a godly companion to help guide you and give you support? I know that the Lord is my rock. But I also have heard of studies of infants that were never touched that die for no apparent reason. I think we need touch. I don't mean lust. I mean holding a hand, being kissed or hugged. Someone who through their warmth and proximity let's you know that you can relax. You are not alone. I know that God never leaves us or forsakes us. But you can feel loneliness even with God by your side.

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progressivenerdgirl

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If my church found the person blameless in the divorce (i.e., they divorced for adultery, or the other partner forced a divorce using civil law) it would be permissible to do so. Usually it would only be permissible, even under these circumstances, if the ex-spouse were also dead; however the civil magistrates in this country do not want to enforce God's penalty for adulterers and this is not the fault of the other party.
 
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progressivenerdgirl said:
If my church found the person blameless in the divorce (i.e., they divorced for adultery, or the other partner forced a divorce using civil law) it would be permissible to do so. Usually it would only be permissible, even under these circumstances, if the ex-spouse were also dead; however the civil magistrates in this country do not want to enforce God's penalty for adulterers and this is not the fault of the other party.
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Huh. I've never heard it put that way before. You seem to have some really good insight on Biblical interpretations.
 
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BarlyGurl

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progressivenerdgirl said:
If my church found the person blameless in the divorce (i.e., they divorced for adultery, or the other partner forced a divorce using civil law) it would be permissible to do so. Usually it would only be permissible, even under these circumstances, if the ex-spouse were also dead; however the civil magistrates in this country do not want to enforce God's penalty for adulterers and this is not the fault of the other party.
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Exactly what "church" do you attend? Please?
 
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BarlyGurl

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meggars said:
Would that necessarily be the case though? The way I've always seen it is that if the only acceptable reason for divorce is infidelity and that marrying someone else after divorce would technically make you an adulterer if you divorce for some other reason. So now if i get married and my husband decides he simply doesn't want to be with me anymore, couldn't I just wait until HE's in a relationship again, making HIM the adulterer which legitimizes the divorce as far as the bible is concerned and then I'm free and clear?
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How is the divorce ILLEGITIMATE if you are forced against your will in a no-fault civil action. It is sort of important to keep in mind that God knows the intent of the heart... attempting to circumvent God's word with a "technical ruse" probably isn't gonna be very successful. Further, because the "legal" distinctions outlined in the bible regarding divorce really are about the Holiness of marriage and person's heart attitude regarding... there are other just reasons for obtaining a divorce... imprisonment is the first that comes to mind, fraud is another, etc.,....
 
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Stuey

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I do not believe we have divorces in Australia in which one party is at fault... Not legally anyway.

By the way I find even the title of this thread... frustrating. It is so... biased and loaded? lol.
 
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jimmydiggs

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Blooming_Violet said:
Nothing is ever that easy. Here is my question that does not make sense to me.


1 Corinthians 7:8-9
New International Version (NIV)
8*Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. 9*But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.



So the recommendation in this verse is that if you are full of passion, it is better to marry than to burn with passion. If you have been married, hopefully at some point you have experienced passion. It seems to me that if you are divorced or put aside for whatever reason, since you have eaten of the forbidden fruit it would be more likely for you to crave it then someone who has not. Translation you would burn with passion. Is it not then better to marry? Or if it is more than you could bear should you pray for the death of your spouse for your freedom? Or for that matter your death? What really are your options? I often wonder what was Abigail's prayer.


Blooming_Violet
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How much wood could a woodchuck, chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
 
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BarlyGurl

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AAAPlus said:
A weak argument. You're taking a verse expressly directed toward unmarried people and widows and applying it to groups of people that it was not intended for. If you start doing that then can get all kinds of unreasonable conclusions. For example; what about teenagers? Teenagers probably "burn with passion" more than most adults do, so is it better for a 13 year old to get married?
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For clarification... women who have been divorced against their will... ARE WIDOWS. That adulterers are not longer stoned to death... is irrelavent regarding "widowhood" .
 
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Stuey

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Btw in Timothy Paul counsels young widows to marry. Best to keep that in mind as well.
 
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jimmydiggs

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BarlyGurl said:
Exactly what "church" do you attend? Please?
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So far, it sounds like a very biblical one.

Also, the avatar would probably be an indicator, if you know your church signs well. ;)

Profiles are good sources as well for many people.

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To the topic of the thread...

It depends on the reasons for the divorce at the very least. Evangelicals have had a lot of influence from American culture change their views on this matter, unfortunately. In many evangelical churches, divorce and remarriage could never be wrong even if God says it is.
 
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progressivenerdgirl

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BarlyGurl said:
Exactly what "church" do you attend? Please?
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The Reformed Church In the United States, though I also like to attend Orthodox Presbyterian Churches when I am near one :D
 
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Stuey

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BarlyGurl said:
For clarification... women who have been divorced against their will... ARE WIDOWS. That adulterers are not longer stoned to death... is irrelavent regarding "widowhood" .
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Where do you base this from? Bible verse please...
 
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BarlyGurl

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Stuey said:
Where do you base this from? Bible verse please...
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Well Stuey.... "trinity" isn't in the bible or a verse. I was pointing out to after it had been established in the thread that there are cause for divorce... let's use abandonment for expedience...the "divorced" women is then the same as a widow... surely you did not think she is the same as an unmarried which would be a VIRGIN... right?You are a studious young man... you have learned other truths from the bible by recognizng inferrances.. right? Thinking in OT terms... if she is divorced "unlawfully" by a certificate... not guilty of adultery... innocent... what does she do??? She can't buy property, apply for a displaced homemaker college grant, get a job... what is she going to do??? She is treated as a widow... and free to marry again. Meaning she is RESTORED TO LEGITIMATE SOCIAL STATUS... and her future marriage is LEGITIMATE. As opposed to walking around with the SHAME of being divorced and any future marriage being treated as adultery.
 
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Probably not. Frankly, I'd be surprised if I ever do get married.​
 
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