God or Guns?
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For the Kingdom of God is not something we will look at and say 'Lo! behold, there it is!' The Kingdom of God is of peace, love and joy in the Holy Spirit.
By these words, progressivenerdgirl, we see that the Kingdom of God does not flourish by laws, decrees, isms, or certain letter, but by the aforementioned qualities being held above that of perceived freedom, the need for violence, condemnation, anger, wrath, retaliation, hatred, dishonesty, hopelessness, unfair demand, spite, jealousy and all other manner of iniquity by which the human race is guilty.
Only when the mind is focused on the practice of love, patience, kindness, compassion, faith, hope, charity, forgiveness, meekness, humility and peace, can 'Be it on earth as it is in heaven', be realised as it is intended.
However we know that not every soul can inherit and understand such focus. And our God has held his son as ransom for this reason.
Yet I would rather come to God humble, allowing others passage before me, and saying 'I tried God, yet I understand I am no better than your enemy, because of this; In Adam all die, yet so as in Jesus all will live. Thank you'
Question; will there be guns in heaven?
By these words, progressivenerdgirl, we see that the Kingdom of God does not flourish by laws, decrees, isms, or certain letter, but by the aforementioned qualities being held above that of perceived freedom, the need for violence, condemnation, anger, wrath, retaliation, hatred, dishonesty, hopelessness, unfair demand, spite, jealousy and all other manner of iniquity by which the human race is guilty.
Only when the mind is focused on the practice of love, patience, kindness, compassion, faith, hope, charity, forgiveness, meekness, humility and peace, can 'Be it on earth as it is in heaven', be realised as it is intended.
However we know that not every soul can inherit and understand such focus. And our God has held his son as ransom for this reason.
Yet I would rather come to God humble, allowing others passage before me, and saying 'I tried God, yet I understand I am no better than your enemy, because of this; In Adam all die, yet so as in Jesus all will live. Thank you'
Question; will there be guns in heaven?
K
"And He said to them, "When I sent you without money bag, knapsack, and sandals, did you lack anything?"
So they said, "Nothing."
Then He said to them, "But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. For I say to you that this which is written must still be accomplished in Me: 'And He was numbered with the transgressors.' For the things concerning Me have an end."
So they said, "Lord, look, here are two swords."
And He said to them, "It is enough." " (Luke 22:35-38, NKJV)
How many men and just 2 swords/knives?
I don't see it where Jesus told every man to go packing heat.
So they said, "Nothing."
Then He said to them, "But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. For I say to you that this which is written must still be accomplished in Me: 'And He was numbered with the transgressors.' For the things concerning Me have an end."
So they said, "Lord, look, here are two swords."
And He said to them, "It is enough." " (Luke 22:35-38, NKJV)
How many men and just 2 swords/knives?
I don't see it where Jesus told every man to go packing heat.
M
You are Totally exactly correct, as this circumstance wasnt SELF defense.
It was more like prematurely jumping in for your buddy when he didnt ask for help.
Peter acted hastily likely driven by his emotions in an attempt to protect his friend and his leader without being rational and realizing the full situation.
It was more like prematurely jumping in for your buddy when he didnt ask for help.
Peter acted hastily likely driven by his emotions in an attempt to protect his friend and his leader without being rational and realizing the full situation.
Is a Christian Justified to Defend?
What does the Bible teach?
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jduizgwJjYY[/video]
http://emoure77.webstarts.com/uploads/Defense.pdf
What does the Bible teach?
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jduizgwJjYY[/video]
http://emoure77.webstarts.com/uploads/Defense.pdf
i am glad my son defended me, it was no dishonor, thanks buddy. It seems to me a child defending his or her parents is a good thing. Especially when they see someone is degrading their parent in a place the whole world can see. The forums question is GOD or guns. i just choose GOD that was my answer. Never did i say i'm for gun control, in fact i feel that is crazy. When i was a child i had guns and hunted. i was in the army. Something happened inside of me that i didn't want anything to do with guns anymore, stopped hunting became vegetarian, got rid of guns. Never did i say i was against people owning guns, was just stating i choose GOD.
Forgive me for offending anybody, that was not my intent i was only answering question. Love you All. Christ Jesus is Lord
Forgive me for offending anybody, that was not my intent i was only answering question. Love you All. Christ Jesus is Lord
we-e-e-e-e-l-l-l not really.
in 1967 her majesty let us think we were independent...but everything here is still The Crown this and that (= city of London cabal).
here's a cop shop from c. 1905 Saskatchewan.
the "the Mounted Police" became the Royal Northwest Mounted Police after King Edward VII bestowed the "Royal" prefix in 1904
we used to be kind of proud of our police.
that's over now.
we turned a corner with this event:
Taser video shows RCMP shocked immigrant within 25 seconds of their arrival
Taser video shows RCMP shocked immigrant within 25 seconds of their arrival - British Columbia - CBC News < click
and this stuff:
G20 police state < all western cops got the same black gear and stuff at the same time - 9-11.
handy, that.
"don't taze me bro"
course, there's the occasional exception
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KTnLVzI2q4[/video]
in 1967 her majesty let us think we were independent...but everything here is still The Crown this and that (= city of London cabal).
here's a cop shop from c. 1905 Saskatchewan.
the "the Mounted Police" became the Royal Northwest Mounted Police after King Edward VII bestowed the "Royal" prefix in 1904
we used to be kind of proud of our police.
that's over now.
we turned a corner with this event:
Taser video shows RCMP shocked immigrant within 25 seconds of their arrival
Taser video shows RCMP shocked immigrant within 25 seconds of their arrival - British Columbia - CBC News < click
and this stuff:
G20 police state < all western cops got the same black gear and stuff at the same time - 9-11.
handy, that.
"don't taze me bro"
course, there's the occasional exception
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KTnLVzI2q4[/video]
A sword means a 'tongue' in biblical language. And a 'flash of lightning' is used as a term several times, for 'beholding something'. In one instance it was an apostle beholding, or realising, Satan.
Therefore, flaming swords are tongues, speaking the truths, and lightning bolts are flashes of insight. 'Lighting the truth', so to speak.
Jesus sword is 'double edged', because his truths are upheld by his life and actions. He was sinless.
Therefore, flaming swords are tongues, speaking the truths, and lightning bolts are flashes of insight. 'Lighting the truth', so to speak.
Jesus sword is 'double edged', because his truths are upheld by his life and actions. He was sinless.
do we have christians who think they are God?
who gave man permission to take vengeance?
who gave man permission to take God's image of himself life?
is there any rules written anywhere that a man can take another man life?
Matthew 5:37-39
37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.
41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
who gave man permission to take vengeance?
who gave man permission to take God's image of himself life?
is there any rules written anywhere that a man can take another man life?
Matthew 5:37-39
37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.
41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
M
A sword means a 'tongue' in biblical language. And a 'flash of lightning' is used as a term several times, for 'beholding something'. In one instance it was an apostle beholding, or realising, Satan.
Therefore, flaming swords are tongues, speaking the truths, and lightning bolts are flashes of insight. 'Lighting the truth', so to speak.
Jesus sword is 'double edged', because his truths are upheld by his life and actions. He was sinless
God speaking of himself to Job.
32He fills his hands with lightning
and commands it to strike its mark.
33His thunder announces the coming storm;
even the cattle make known its approach.
35 Do you send the lightning bolts on their way? Do they report to you, 'Here we are'?
2 Chron 7
1 When Solomon finished praying, a bolt of lightning out of heaven struck the Whole-Burnt-Offering and sacrifices and the Glory of God filled The Temple
Genesis 3:24
After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life
Feel free to Take some time to rethink your last statement whether these things of God were metaphrical or not.
Therefore, flaming swords are tongues, speaking the truths, and lightning bolts are flashes of insight. 'Lighting the truth', so to speak.
Jesus sword is 'double edged', because his truths are upheld by his life and actions. He was sinless
God speaking of himself to Job.
32He fills his hands with lightning
and commands it to strike its mark.
33His thunder announces the coming storm;
even the cattle make known its approach.
35 Do you send the lightning bolts on their way? Do they report to you, 'Here we are'?
2 Chron 7
1 When Solomon finished praying, a bolt of lightning out of heaven struck the Whole-Burnt-Offering and sacrifices and the Glory of God filled The Temple
Genesis 3:24
After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life
Feel free to Take some time to rethink your last statement whether these things of God were metaphrical or not.
Jesus is the protector not a gun or any man
2 Samuel 22:31
As for God, his way is perfect; the word of the Lord is tried: he is a buckler to all them that trust in him.
Proverbs 2:7
He layeth up sound wisdom for the righteous: he is a buckler to them that walk uprightly.
The flaming sword (truthfullness spoken out) guards the tree of life. What is more fitting, that truth guards the tree of life? God is as a flame. Ever heard that? God is truth.
When we find the truth, and adhere to it, we are in effect, eating from the tree of life.
Fills his hands with revealing truth and commands that when it is unleashed, it strikes its mark. Do you send the truth back like a messenger? Does it announce itself saying 'here I am'?
No. The truth, just as a lightning bolt, once realised, can't be 'unrealised'. It is an intense flash. It opens one's eyes.
When we find the truth, and adhere to it, we are in effect, eating from the tree of life.
Fills his hands with revealing truth and commands that when it is unleashed, it strikes its mark. Do you send the truth back like a messenger? Does it announce itself saying 'here I am'?
No. The truth, just as a lightning bolt, once realised, can't be 'unrealised'. It is an intense flash. It opens one's eyes.
Jesus said let them grow together
Matthew 13:
28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
good grief, who's worshiping the State??
that wasn't my intent, at all.
Believe me, I recognize the problems with gov't here.
And no King but Jesus! (thanks Rick )
And you're right, slaves do very quickly learn to adapt to their chains.
Just look at the illegal stuff our gov't does, but it's been done so gradually,
we're like the proverbial frog in the pot of water.
It's not only that almost no one minds...almost no one even notices.
My generation doesn't understand freedom like my parents' did, and my children's even less so.
But as my husband says, God has a Plan!
that wasn't my intent, at all.
Believe me, I recognize the problems with gov't here.
And no King but Jesus! (thanks Rick
)And you're right, slaves do very quickly learn to adapt to their chains.
Just look at the illegal stuff our gov't does, but it's been done so gradually,
we're like the proverbial frog in the pot of water.
It's not only that almost no one minds...almost no one even notices.
My generation doesn't understand freedom like my parents' did, and my children's even less so.
But as my husband says, God has a Plan!
The media loves to focus on stories of the illegal use of firearms to kill but ignores the many stories where otherwise defenseless people, have protected themselves from armed intruders, and perhaps would not be alive today if they had not been properly trained in how to use firearms.
The media and the govenment love to exploit emotional issues so that they can get people to think with their emotions, rather than with reason.
"There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations."
James Madison, speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 16, 1788
did not miss it had not gotten there yet
what sword is he talking about we have two in the bible
are you aware it could be this sword the Lord speak of
Ephesians 6:17
And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
Luke 6:29
And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.
so if someone smite thy cheek and take your coat we are suppose to show our gun or shoot that person?
Jesus said give him the other cheek to smite and give them the coat
i don't see a sword or weapon being pulled,shown or used.
And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.
so if someone smite thy cheek and take your coat we are suppose to show our gun or shoot that person?
Jesus said give him the other cheek to smite and give them the coat
i don't see a sword or weapon being pulled,shown or used.