God or Guns?

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I, and the people that live around me all have protection(guns).
We are not bothered because we have guns(self protection).
Of course God enters into it too, but He gave us the right to defend ourselves.
We have very little crime here, smack dab in the middle of Texas.
 

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I, and the people that live around me all have protection(guns).
We are not bothered because we have guns(self protection).
Of course God enters into it too, but He gave us the right to defend ourselves.
We have very little crime here, smack dab in the middle of Texas.
So you spend hundreds of dollars on protection you don't need and God is smiling on you because you have the ability to destroy the life he created!!

Yeh, right on man!
 
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If you will do the study, you will find the highest murder rates by firearms are in places in America
where the right to keep and bear arms has been abridged - Detroit, Chicago, Washington, New York, Los Angeles, Oakland.
You see, in those places guns are kept from the honest people who just want to live, so the criminal element has a turkey shoot.
 

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If you will do the study, you will find the highest murder rates by firearms are in places in America
where the right to keep and bear arms has been abridged - Detroit, Chicago, Washington, New York, Los Angeles, Oakland.
You see, in those places guns are kept from the honest people who just want to live, so the criminal element has a turkey shoot.
It's funny how the words murder and gun keep cropping up together.
It's like Horse and Carriage but one is good and the other isn't.
 
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So you spend hundreds of dollars on protection you don't need and God is smiling on you because you have the ability to destroy the life he created!!

Yeh, right on man!
Who said hundreds of dollars?
Guns in the hands of law abiding people are a deterrent to the criminal element.
Any fool knows that.....(I don't know why you don't).
 

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Who said hundreds of dollars?
Guns in the hands of law abiding people are a deterrent to the criminal element.
Any fool knows that.....(I don't know why you don't).
madness click

Firearms top the list of items passengers are prohibited from taking past airport security checkpoints and onto airplanes. Yet, during 2012 that didn't stop travelers from trying to get more than 1,500 handguns and other firearms past Transportation Security Administration officers at U.S. airports.
 

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How Guns And Violence Cost Every American $564

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Then you don't need a gun do you.
May you never be faced with the position where you or a loved one are put in a compromising situation against an attacker intent on doing physical bodily harm. Let alone an army of many who would try to force you to do something against scripture and against your beliefs in The Lord God Almighty.
 
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How Guns And Violence Cost Every American $564

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Mine don't cost me that, not even close.
I'm free and therefor not subject to the curmudgeonly offscours of 'lords' or 'queens' like you.

P.S., ....you can clickity clack all you want. - (You still don't know what you are talking about)
In your country, such an advance by a subject on a freeman would call for a smite on the face.
 

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May you never be faced with the position where you or a loved one are put in a compromising situation against an attacker intent on doing physical bodily harm. Let alone an army of many who would try to force you to do something against scripture and against your beliefs in The Lord God Almighty.
Let's hope not.
 

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Mine don't cost me that, not even close.
I'm free and therefor not subject to the curmudgeonly offscours of 'lords' or 'queens' like you.

P.S., ....you can clickity clack all you want. - (You still don't know what you are talking about)
In your country, such an advance by a subject on a freeman would call for a smite on the face.
Well my friend Robin Hood used a bow and arrow and he was made a Freeman of the City of York in 1382 just after the Peasants Revolt.

His arch-enemy was John Gisbourne who was the Lord Mayor of York. This is new information and I thought with your interest in weapons you might like to know :)
 
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Oregon Mall shooter was stopped by an armed Citizen
Media blackout: Oregon mall shooter was stopped by an armed citizen - Virginia Beach Conservative | Examiner.com

Not only has the national media refused to acknowledge this aspect of the deadly event, but law enforcement has as well.

Of course, the Obamamedia is in full support of even harsher gun control laws and it should come as no surprise that they would suppress any story which provides proof that lawfully armed citizens do prevent crimes and save lives.


Here are a few facts about armed Americans:


-In 1982, the town of Kennesaw, Georgia, passed an ordinance which required all heads of household to have at least one gun in the house. The burglary rate immediately dropped an astounding 89 percent. Ten years after the law was passed, the burglary rate was still 72 percent less than it was in 1981.
-Armed citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals as the police do every year in this country (1,527 to 606).
-A 1996 University of Chicago study concluded that states which passed concealed carry laws reduced
their murder rates by 8.5 percent,
rapes by 5 percent,
aggravated assaults by 7 percent,
and robbery by 3 percent.
-According to the National Safety Council, with guns being used 2.5 million times a year in self defense against criminals,
firearms are actually used more than 80 times more often to protect lives, rather than to take lives.
-A 1979 Justice Department study entitled Rape Victimization in American Cities, concluded that of more than 32,000 attempted rapes,
32 percent were actually committed.
But when a woman was armed with a gun or knife, only 3 percent of the attempted rapes were actually committed.
-Another Justice Department study found that 57 percent of felons agreed that
"criminals are more worried about meeting an armed victim than they are about running into the police."
 

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Oregon Mall shooter was stopped by an armed Citizen
Media blackout: Oregon mall shooter was stopped by an armed citizen - Virginia Beach Conservative | Examiner.com

Not only has the national media refused to acknowledge this aspect of the deadly event, but law enforcement has as well.

Of course, the Obamamedia is in full support of even harsher gun control laws and it should come as no surprise that they would suppress any story which provides proof that lawfully armed citizens do prevent crimes and save lives.


Here are a few facts about armed Americans:


-In 1982, the town of Kennesaw, Georgia, passed an ordinance which required all heads of household to have at least one gun in the house. The burglary rate immediately dropped an astounding 89 percent. Ten years after the law was passed, the burglary rate was still 72 percent less than it was in 1981.
-Armed citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals as the police do every year in this country (1,527 to 606).
-A 1996 University of Chicago study concluded that states which passed concealed carry laws reduced
their murder rates by 8.5 percent,
rapes by 5 percent,
aggravated assaults by 7 percent,
and robbery by 3 percent.
-According to the National Safety Council, with guns being used 2.5 million times a year in self defense against criminals,
firearms are actually used more than 80 times more often to protect lives, rather than to take lives.
-A 1979 Justice Department study entitled Rape Victimization in American Cities, concluded that of more than 32,000 attempted rapes,
32 percent were actually committed.
But when a woman was armed with a gun or knife, only 3 percent of the attempted rapes were actually committed.
-Another Justice Department study found that 57 percent of felons agreed that
"criminals are more worried about meeting an armed victim than they are about running into the police."
You live in a violent society. I can't help thinking if there were no guns there wouldn't be any gun violence. They say violence breeds violence.
 
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Well my friend Robin Hood used a bow and arrow and he was made a Freeman of the City of York in 1382 just after the Peasants Revolt.

His arch-enemy was John Gisbourne who was the Lord Mayor of York. This is new information and I thought with your interest in weapons you might like to know :)
Too bad it didn't stick.
Too bad you are now again subjects to a material monarch again.
Just a shame.........
No guns but plenty of crime in your merry ole' England.
Amazing how the criminal element flourishes when good people are not allowed to defend themselves.
Do you want stats.?
Just to show how lawless your homeland is?
I think I will,......benefit you and the readers with the latest crime stats.
 

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Too bad it didn't stick.
Too bad you are now again subjects to a material monarch again.
Just a shame.........
No guns but plenty of crime in your merry ole' England.
Amazing how the criminal element flourishes when good people are not allowed to defend themselves.
Do you want stats.?
Just to show how lawless your homeland is?
I think I will,......benefit you and the readers with the latest crime stats.
Fine by me. I don't see any crime but apparently it flourishes in America which is the subject in this thread.
 
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Crime Statistics > Total crimes (most recent) by country

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Rank Countries
Amount

# 1
United States: 11,877,218 Population : 309,975,000

# 2
United Kingdom: 6,523,706 Population : 62,041,708

# 3
Germany: 6,507,394 Population : 81,757,600

# 4
France: 3,771,850 Population : 65,447,374

# 5
Russia: 2,952,370 Population : 141,927,297

# 6
Japan: 2,853,739 Population : 127,380,000

# 7
South Africa: 2,683,849 Population : 49,991,300

# 8
Canada: 2,516,918

# 9
Italy: 2,231,550

# 10
India: 1,764,630

# 11
Korea, South: 1,543,220

# 12
Mexico: 1,516,029

# 13
Netherlands: 1,422,863

# 14
Poland: 1,404,229

# 15
Argentina: 1,340,529

# 16
Sweden: 1,234,784

# 17
Belgium: 973,548

# 18
Spain: 923,271

# 19
Chile: 593,997

# 20
Thailand: 565,108



Looks to me like you have the highest crime rate by far.
Not even close.
England has a crime rate of over 10% of it's total population!
No other country on this chart-(the highest number of crimes); is even in the same ballpark.
The U.S. is around 3%
I'm sure those criminals over the pond are much nicer to you though!
Waaah! Blimey!
 
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Fine by me. I don't see any crime but apparently it flourishes in America which is the subject in this thread.
wow, if you don't see the hurt people around you.... then you need to open your eyes...

these are UK stats by the way.



Statistics: how common is domestic violence? - Women's Aid


12.9 million incidents: The British Crime Survey found that there were an estimated 12.9 million incidents of domestic violence acts (that constituted non-sexual threats or force) against women and 2.5 million against men in England and Wales in the year preceding interview (Walby & Allen, 2004).


One call a minute to the police: Though only a minority of incidents of domestic violence are reported to the police , the police still receive one call about domestic violence for every minute in the UK, an estimated 1,300 calls each day or over 570,000 each year. (Stanko, 2000). However, according to the British Crime Survey, less than 40% of domestic violence crime is reported to the police (Dodd et al, July 2004; Walby and Allen, 2004; Home Office, 2002).

Homicide:
On average, two women a week are killed by a violent partner or ex-partner. This constitutes nearly 40% of all female homicide victims. (Povey, (ed.), 2005; Home Office, 1999; Department of Health, 2005.)
two women a week. it might not be by guns but the violence is there.

sin and violence is a global problem, don't try and make it a US one.

it is not the gun that kills but the person and as been said before you don't need a gun to kill, you can make almost any tool into a weapon for death.

the gun is just another tool until it is misused. it by itself is neither good or evil.

when people take it out into the jungle to keep themselves safe from tigers, would that make it evil?
 

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I, and the people that live around me all have protection(guns).
We are not bothered because we have guns(self protection).
Of course God enters into it too, but He gave us the right to defend ourselves.
We have very little crime here, smack dab in the middle of Texas.
Good!

Who is after you all?

Why would The Lord send satan evil workers after you?
 

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It's not good is it, I'm just glad guns are banned in the UK.