God or Guns?
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Where did I say I don't like the laws of the land?
Your emotions are getting the best of you!
There is no other country I would want to go or even visit!!
Why would I need to take a man's life God's creation
Read this and learn
Ephesians 5:25 (KJV)
Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
We have I give up our lives for the word of God and our family
Why would The Lord rebuke me who trust in him
I don't have a weapon before God
Do you even know what you are talking about
I won't take another mans life and I allow The Lord to protect me
Learn what the verse is about before you even try using it?
You are getting emotional again
The rules states that you need a time out
Most gun owners are emotional when this subject is brought up like you
Next time you try this
Do it correctly
You have to call the name Jesus
What Lord do you want rebuking me?
Good grief
Matthew 5:9 (KJV)
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Romans 14:17 (KJV)
For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
1 Corinthians 7:15 (KJV)
But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases : but God hath called us to peace.
1 Corinthians 14:33 (KJV)
For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Do God bring peace or do weapons bring peace
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Romans 14:17 (KJV)
For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
1 Corinthians 7:15 (KJV)
But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases : but God hath called us to peace.
1 Corinthians 14:33 (KJV)
For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Do God bring peace or do weapons bring peace
Why does God want us to put on his amour?
Ephesians 6:11-17 (KJV)
Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. [12] For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places . [13] Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. [14] Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; [15] And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; [16] Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. [17] And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
Satan will come after us with people evil people to do us harm and shake our faith
The weapons we have from God is not man made !!!
Ephesians 6:11-17 (KJV)
Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. [12] For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places . [13] Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. [14] Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; [15] And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; [16] Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. [17] And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
Satan will come after us with people evil people to do us harm and shake our faith
The weapons we have from God is not man made !!!
Colossians 3:12-13 (KJV)
Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; [13] Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.
Don't blow the person head off?
Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; [13] Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.
Don't blow the person head off?
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MidniteWelder
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I call upon the one and only Lord in which every knee shall bow Christ Jesus to rebuke you for using.
HIS WORD..........as your weapon.
Ive noticed that from the moment youve been here you have predominantly attacked this thread, the US citizens rights by law and under the God given authority of the US instituted laws to make attempts to convince the US public to effectively disarm themselves as well as ....
88% of all your posts are predominantly on this thread advocating against self-defense and improperly using Gods word to do so. Who's the one thats being emotional?
And you still havent answered by what authority you would smite another man.
It is unwise to use threats you cant support.
And if you call upon the Lord, to do your smiting for you,
It would be wise for you to think twice about that one. (or three times if thats what it takes)
Because God isnt at your beck and call.
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Matthew 5:44 (KJV)
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Psalm 54:4-5 (KJV)
Behold, God is mine helper: the Lord is with them that uphold my soul. [5] He shall reward evil unto mine enemies: cut them off in thy truth.
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Psalm 54:4-5 (KJV)
Behold, God is mine helper: the Lord is with them that uphold my soul. [5] He shall reward evil unto mine enemies: cut them off in thy truth.
Go read the post about putting on the armour of God and tell me what weapons do he supply his servants with.
Are you really capable of defending yourself when The Lord send someone your way
If you do survive is by your strength or the grace and mercy of God?
Ephesians 6:12 (KJV)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places .
Tel me how do you defend yourself against this
1 Peter 5:8 (KJV)
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
When satan comes at you will be will be using a person to do it
Satan is coming to devour
1 Peter 5:8 (KJV)
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
When satan comes at you will be will be using a person to do it
Satan is coming to devour
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MidniteWelder
Guest
Do you see God's weapons in the verse
Ephesians 6:11-17 (KJV)
Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. [12] For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places . [13] Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. [14] Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; [15] And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; [16] Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. [17] And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
Ephesians 6:11-17 (KJV)
Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. [12] For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places . [13] Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. [14] Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; [15] And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; [16] Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. [17] And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
both, Guns are used to kill people and they were used to kill the Britts and establish the great nation of the United States they were also used to kill the Germans to defeat Hitler, Guns were taken away from the Jews and guess what? the German Gov still had theirs, and then the Jews were unarmed sitting ducks led to be murdered (6 million of them including women and Children) The media in Germany propagated the whole thing just like what they are doing in the USA...Governments throughout history have been the mass murderers and they don't seem like they are going to give their guns up.
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MidniteWelder
Guest
Understood iog, Now.........................
Go tell the same to any Govt. wishing to enslave its own people and see if you can convince them as well and we all live in peace
Because just as Christ is the Authority and example so should the Govt be the example of its own people by throwing down their weapons as well if they wish us to do the same.
Or is it
(I)nstitute
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(G)overnment
Go tell the same to any Govt. wishing to enslave its own people and see if you can convince them as well and we all live in peace
Because just as Christ is the Authority and example so should the Govt be the example of its own people by throwing down their weapons as well if they wish us to do the same.
Or is it
(I)nstitute
(O)f
(G)overnment
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See here we go again your emotions have blinded you
Who are you trying to impress or are you trying to get me kicked off
What you see is copying and pasting the word of God
What you read is the word if God telling you to trust in God
Plead stop with your emotional rants
Take a time out ad come back with the word of God
What I see the last few post of your ls not God's word but your opinion
You started out with God's word but now it's pure emotions
Good night
Lets try tomorrow if God will!
God tells us to obey the laws of the land
I don't get involved in government issues nor politics
All bibles as you can see
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MidniteWelder
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California Penal Code Section 837 states,
"A private person may arrest another:
(1) For a public offense committed or attempted in his presence.
(2) When the person arrested has committed a felony, although not in his presence.
(3) When a felony has been in fact committed, and he has reasonable cause for believing the person arrested to have committed it."
In other words, a person in California who is not a law official or police officer can make what is commonly called a "citizen's arrest" if he or she witnesses a crime. For example, an Occupying protester who witnesses someone breaking and entering, causing bodily harm or threatening a life of themselves or another can forcefully hold and detain an offender until police arrive. And thereby based upon incriminating information provided by the citizen's account since it was not the police who would be witnessing such a crime, police will arrest the offender.
Some may ask do we need a statute like this? Why do we need a "citizen's arrest"? Well, as the crime rate goes up, it becomes more and more important that good citizens come to the aid of one another in distress as well as aiding the Police since Police response time is approximately 2 minutes given there is an officer within the immediate area. Without such a statute, only government agents, such as police, would have the authority to stop a felon in progress.
What needs to be understood is that if waiting for police to arrive there is no prevention of a felony.
And waiting for police to arrive in the event of a felony may be hazardous to the lives of others who incorrectly think it is only the police departments job to uphold the law.
No, it is also deemed by law for citizenz to uphold the law in such cases.
So yes in some cases it is lawful for a CITIZEN to not take law into their own hands, but to uphold the laws which are established.
So ya see iog, The laws of the land which you so biblically are advocating yet putting down at the same time therefore making yourself a hypocrite are the same laws which empowered normal everyday citizens with the same authority by law as a police official to arrest and detain a felonious perpetrator. This is much more effective when the arresting citizen has the playing field more than equalized and in their favor over any perpetrator breaking the law.
Perhaps you should educate yourself with the laws of the land in which you live yourself before convicting someone incorrectly based upon your own personal understanding of law and scripture.
Have a good night sleep tight
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