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Surviving

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To Whoever can help me

I am married to my rapist...(long story) and I want to know if there is some secret key for performing my wifely duty without tears and without sin. In other words, I either cry or think of another when we did such act. It has been many years since my husband and I have come together that way. I cannot simply do it because I either flash back to what was done to me many years ago, or I sin by thinking of another. So I stopped all relations whatsoever, many years ago to proctect my soul.

Any thoughts?

Thanks so much
 
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kenisyes

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Have you told your husband this? The two of you need to pray through this together.

You did fall in love with him later, right? I hope you did not marry him because you thought Scripture told you to. If you did, please tell me what church you belong to. You will need another kind of help, and it will need to come from your clergy, as it is denomination specific. It will affect what question you ask.
 
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Surviving

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I married him because my father made me marry him. He had raped me several times when I was 16 and the result was a pregnancy. Our son was stillborn. All of this was over 30 years ago. No. I did not fall in love with him. To me, he is like any other person except that I am married to him. In the past, he frequently hit me. Any love that might have been gained was lost due to his hateful nature against me. Yet today, he still belittles me and lies about me. He has this personality that everyone just loves. When he tells his lies, everyone believes him. I end up looking like the bad person all the time because of what he has done to me.

Anyways, the only thing he really does is provide for me at this point. That is only because I prayed and asked the Lord to make him be a provider because of the scripture in Deut about a man raping a virgin then having to marry her and provide for her. The Lord granted my request and has made him provide well for me. I thank God for that. However, my husband has been like Tamar's half brother in that he hates me more everyday.

Sorry for the length of this. The one time I went to a previous pastor about some of this, he kicked our whole family out of church. We went to another church though and have been there ever since. I don't want to risk telling this pastor anything. I just need help and have prayed about it all and the Lord has helped in much of it. I just need some advice with it all. I don't want to sin b/c the time of His appearing could be anytime now.

thanks
 
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Surviving

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I'll try to answer the first question here. No I have not told him everything about my thoughts on this because he will just twist it all around and then go tell his version to everyone at church. This must sound like kids fighting in one respect but it is anything but. Also, when my dad made us marry, he did not know it was forced rape. Just so you know.

I belong to a Free Will Baptist Church. I don't want my pastor knowing about all of this. I worry we will be kicked out of church again.
 
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intercessorginger

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This situation is like a ball of yarn, very big and twisted. In my opinion this "marriage" should never have taken place and if your father knew the circumstances I'm sure this never would have happened. Too many lies, too much abuse, too much shame and fear and lack of trust. Gods way is truth, not lies and the truth needs to be brought into the light if there is ever going to be any direction or healing. You should tell your parents the truth and your pastor for prayer and solid bible counseling. You might also consider a rape crisis center for legal advice.
 

Jacobd

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Have you gone to the law? If he raped you while you were 16 you were still a minor and he can be tried on those counts. It seems to me that nothing has been done on this issue. Find a family lawyer who can cover you and represent you on this issue and press charges for minor rape when you were young. He can be tried providing there is some proof that can be dug up - medical records of an unwanted pregnancy at 16 from the hospital. Also DNA records from the child (age calculation of your child) can prove that you were 16 when you were pregnant.

Also there are shelters for battered women (in abusive relationships) that you can seek refuge in. You can contact any of them near your zipcode by googling them. Then go and stay there and seek their protection. They will also help you file papers for divorce as I would not suggest staying in an abusive, hate-filled, hate growing relationship. Above all God knows your situation and he will strengthen you to make a life for yourself. I don't think churches can do much as they don't get involved in familial issues. Counseling is not recommended as you are past this stage and he is not a willing individual. Unless he understands his nature, no one can help him. But you can help yourself. Do it today. Do it NOW. Keep us posted.
 
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Surviving

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No, I don't want to involve the law in this matter because it is too little too late. It has been over 30 years. Nothing would be gained out of it now.

The whole thing just seems so hopeless. There is no one to turn to in human form anyways. I don't want this matter drug out so that others may point fingers at my husband and say he did things that he didn't just because of what he did do.

There really isn't any way for me to heal from this.

good grief
 
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BarlyGurl

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I married him because my father made me marry him. He had raped me several times when I was 16 and the result was a pregnancy. Our son was stillborn. All of this was over 30 years ago. No. I did not fall in love with him. To me, he is like any other person except that I am married to him. In the past, he frequently hit me. Any love that might have been gained was lost due to his hateful nature against me. Yet today, he still belittles me and lies about me. He has this personality that everyone just loves. When he tells his lies, everyone believes him. I end up looking like the bad person all the time because of what he has done to me.

Anyways, the only thing he really does is provide for me at this point. That is only because I prayed and asked the Lord to make him be a provider because of the scripture in Deut about a man raping a virgin then having to marry her and provide for her. The Lord granted my request and has made him provide well for me. I thank God for that. However, my husband has been like Tamar's half brother in that he hates me more everyday.

Sorry for the length of this. The one time I went to a previous pastor about some of this, he kicked our whole family out of church. We went to another church though and have been there ever since. I don't want to risk telling this pastor anything. I just need help and have prayed about it all and the Lord has helped in much of it. I just need some advice with it all. I don't want to sin b/c the time of His appearing could be anytime now.

thanks
You can leave... YOU ARE FREE TO LEAVE. NO marriage is a marriage when one of the parties are coerced or forced that isn't free consent. WHAT YOU SAY IS your "husband" the rapist was COERCED and you were FORCED. Spending 30 years trying to make good on obligations of a false contract doesn't make the contract valid. TIME DOES NOT CONFER A NULLITY. YOU are FREE TO LEAVE. Please find some good counsel regarding battered women syndrome to help you transition. MY the MIGHTY JUST and TENDER MERCY OF THE LORD guide you clearly in this matter... AMEN.
 
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Surviving

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Thanks, but it has been my experience that when folks get divorced nothing good comes from it. We do have a grown family out of this marriage no matter how it began. Divorcing breaks up family and finances. I prefer to look for the path that brings about good in some way. Thanks again.
 
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Jordache

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My goodness, Surviving, I'm not sure I know what to say. I wish I could hug you.


Divorce is difficult, but as a matter of your safety it may be necessary and God will prosper your family anyway He sees fit regardless of whether you divorce your husband or not. God may lead you to divorce. He may not. I can't speak for God. This is truly a horrific situation, and it breaks my heart that anyone could do this. But I know this: God is big. God has a purpose for your life. And He speaks to His children. If you speak to Him, He will respond. He will guide you in all wisdom. He will protect you. You are under His care even when you feel like you are hanging over a cliff.
 
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BarlyGurl

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Thanks, but it has been my experience that when folks get divorced nothing good comes from it. We do have a grown family out of this marriage no matter how it began. Divorcing breaks up family and finances. I prefer to look for the path that brings about good in some way. Thanks again.
So YOU are willing to stay in an abusive "marriage" for the sake of finances??? Using your GROWN children as an excuse is not valid... they are GROWN... out on their own. God is a gentleman... he gives his children Good things and blesses to the capacity we allow ourselves to receive. If you are WILLING to stay in an abusive marriage to a man who hates you, but makes good money... fine...stay... I see now that you are more interested in SYMPATHY than biblical council. If you are going to LIVE BY THE LAW... you are rejecting grace. IF MONEY is more important than exercising FAITH... well I guess you will continue to get what you are getting... I do feel bad for you... but YOU CHOSE IT.
 
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kenisyes

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I'm going to say the same thing. I do not believe you are married in God's eyes. You are free to walk out anytime you choose. 30 years a long time, and even smelly shoes with holes in them that hurt your feet get comfortable after a while. How do you think you will feel in 20 more years? It's not divorce, it's called annulment. The difference is that you are not married, because you never gave consent to be married as an adult. And there are other churches.

I know how hard this is going to be, but I have to give a hard word: is this Stockholm syndrome? You should go to this guy and pray this through together. If he will not, or cannot do that, then you are a prisoner, not of your husband, but of your father and his beliefs. You are entitled to a life of your own.
 
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Surviving

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So YOU are willing to stay in an abusive "marriage" for the sake of finances??? Using your GROWN children as an excuse is not valid... they are GROWN... out on their own. God is a gentleman... he gives his children Good things and blesses to the capacity we allow ourselves to receive. If you are WILLING to stay in an abusive marriage to a man who hates you, but makes good money... fine...stay... I see now that you are more interested in SYMPATHY than biblical council. If you are going to LIVE BY THE LAW... you are rejecting grace. IF MONEY is more important than exercising FAITH... well I guess you will continue to get what you are getting... I do feel bad for you... but YOU CHOSE IT.
No, it is not the money, or sympathy that I am looking for. My question was at the beginning of this mess and EVERYONE missed it!

This place is a joke! Just proves there is no one to help!
 
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BarlyGurl

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WE DID give you your answer...you just don't like it. THERE IS NO SECRET TO PERFORMING... you are in a FAUX-MARRIAGE... you can ask God to help you do it... but I am pretty sure you have been asking for YEARS... and GOD isn't going to give you supernatural grace for something he NEVER sanctioned to begin with. Do you understand now? DID GOD EVER do anything to change Tamar's half brother... or did it just play out until there was JUSTICE? The justice in your scenario is YOU CAN LEAVE! If you wanna stay... just keep faking along like you have been doing for the last 30 years... it is entirely your choice.
 
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Batman007

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I don't know what to say, I really don't.

I am so sorry this happened. It makes me physically sick to know that you married your rapist. I really... I can't wrap my head around it. The fact that your dad would coerce you into doing such a thing is truly sickening. Truly. I'm trembling.

I was abused by my father, to an extent I understand that pain. I understand that feeling of being trapped, trapped in your house, trapped in your situation, even trapped in your own body. And lost, because it doesn't feel like there will ever be a way out. It doesn't feel like things will ever get better. And there's constantly fear when he walks in the room, like maybe I did something wrong. Maybe he's going to get angry. Maybe today's the day he's going to kill me.

Our stories are very different, too. I got out. I had support from my mother and sisters and therapist, and I got out. I can tell you one thing: it was not easy. It was not easy at all, and nobody is going to lie and say that it is. But I can promise one thing: you will not be happy until you make a change. It's not going to happen, a solution is not going to fall on your lap. You have to do something if you want the situation to change. I don't know what that entails for you, because I only know you from these few posts. Support makes a huge difference though.

Maybe talk to your pastor in private. Find a therapist. Seek out a woman's shelter like someone above mentioned. I have experience with them. They won't force you to do anything, they won't call your husband or the police or your family. It will be completely confidential, and they can offer advice and help. If you can't leave because of finances, they can help. They can give you a place to stay. They can protect you.

If you're unhappy, which it sounds like you understandably are, make a change. The thing is, as soon as I got out I became so much happier. The problems don't go away, it took a lot of psychological counseling and work on my part, but I can tell you with all honesty that I am a happy person. Had I stayed in the situation I honestly don't know if I'd be alive today. I got out. I got support. I got help. I know that you can too. I don't know you, but know that every single person is capable of changing their life, and every single person deserves to be happy. You do too.

I am so sorry that you were dealt these cards in life. It's not fair. But you know what, if you make the decision then soon those days are going to be behind you. All the power is in your hands. You husband and father probably made you feel powerless, and I understand why you feel hopeless. There were many times I did, too. I promise you can be happy. That's something that I promise. The thing is you need to make it happen.

I hope you sign on so you can see this. Please PM me. Please get in touch with me. I want to help you, I really do, in any way I can. I can help you get in contact with a woman's shelter.

I know you can get through this.
 

GOD_IS_LOVE

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Surviving, imagine none of this has ever happened and you would just meet him now for the first time, the man he is today, let's say you'd meet him in church for the first time in your life, and you were both single, would you consider marrying him?
 

JimJimmers

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No, it is not the money, or sympathy that I am looking for. My question was at the beginning of this mess and EVERYONE missed it!

This place is a joke! Just proves there is no one to help!

Surviving, I apologize on behalf of Barleygurl. She is a very rude person. I will answer your question, the answer is that there is no secret key to your 'duty' as a wife. Sexual relations are supposed to come out of mutual love and admiration for the other person, and your marriage has neither of those things.

Are you familiar with what's called 'Stockholm Syndrome'? Here's a link for you, I think it may help: Stockholm syndrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia God bless.
 
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Surviving

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To God_is_Love: No, I would not consider marrying him. I wouldn't even look at him.

To JimJimmers: Thanks I am trying to get some one on one help here where I live. Thanks again.
 
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Abiding

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Surviving, I apologize on behalf of Barleygurl. She is a very rude person. I will answer your question, the answer is that there is no secret key to your 'duty' as a wife. Sexual relations are supposed to come out of mutual love and admiration for the other person, and your marriage has neither of those things.

Are you familiar with what's called 'Stockholm Syndrome'? Here's a link for you, I think it may help: Stockholm syndrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia God bless.

Jimmers, tacky method to throw someone under a bus just to have yourself heard.
Im docking you 200 pts. And wish you to use better techniques in the future.
And please stay away from the forum cookies and beverages until you get a different attitude.
 

shrimp

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It's tricky talking to someone who already has an idea of what they want to hear. Sometimes being blunt and tactless helps (rarely, but sometimes). We all do this. We think of something that we don't entirely feel ok about but want it anyways and look for someone will tell us that it's ok in order to justify it.

Unfortunately, Miss Surviving, I have similar advice as the other folks on here. I can understand why you don't want to consider it, but you did ask us to give you advice. None of us here, so far will ever tell you that there is a way for you to perform sexually that will make your relationship with this man any better, because there isn't. I'm sorry.

I don't think I can understand why you would want to stay with this man. When I was abused, I did not want to be anywhere near those people and did my best to get and stay away. I can tell you that the kids will be fine should you choose divorce, having come from and been around divorce families. It's easier on them now that they are older and out on their own. I guarantee that they have suspicions as to what is going on or they fully know what's going on and every child has a very special bond with their mother even more so than the father. You really don't have to worry them or the finances.

If you love and trust God fully, He will reveal to you what you should do. Just please, please, please do not ignore Him. He talks to us in different ways and even if you don't like what He tells you please consider doing it, because He know what's best.

I'm sorry that this is not what you wanted to hear. I wish you the best and pray for you. LOTS of love.