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Do you support female pastors?
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rillolion
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Only Yahweh and that person knows who's really coming to him...."many will say to me I'm that day lord lord...have we not....and I will say....I never knew you..." It's actually possible because of disobedience they could be leading them to hell....
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God gives the answer in the Bible MichaelAH. The elders are to take care of their teaching with The Holy Spirit. God appoints the people, not me and not any person. Every person that God wants to teach in the Word, will recieve the Word. HIS WAY, not ours.
It is like a church to change their morals to suit GAYS! In stead of REMOVING the sin, they ACCOMADATE it, For God's Sake they say. Where is a gay going to hear about God? Well according to the Bbile they ALREAY knew God but REJECTED HIS TRUTH and that is why they chose to be GAY instead of holy! They changed the Truth of God into a lie.... Saying God made them gay.... It is a LIE! They worshipped the creature (themselves) more than the Creator. Read Romans 1:24 to 32.
Because they did not want the Truth to make them God's people, they do all these bad things... One of them is to INVENT evil things of which is the MANY evil churches. And not only them that does these things but the ones that have pleasure in them doing it, are also worthy of DEATH.... SECOND DEATH in this context.
My friend god knows HIS people... MAtthew 7 MAtthew 5. And He will make sure they have ALL neccesary to be HIS PEOPLE... Ezekiel 36:25. Also the Holy Spirit and His teachings. Scripture and Truth. God provides ALL to make His church a glorious one... Glory to God for being so FAITHFUL. He is in control of ALL HOLY!
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rillolion
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False prophets, false teachers, false doctrine....many devices by the flesh and it's dictates...refusing to follow the commands and satutes of the almighty, swept away by every wind of doctrine...worshipping the creature more than the creator!
Greenie on this one I have to say.... You have it wrong my friend. Women may not even ask a question in church. Let alone give the answers.
Ok many people like to refer to the verse that their are no man or wman in Christ, we are all equal. Does this mean I will also be falling preagnant with children now? Come on, that is not what God meant. And in any case there is NO SEX IN HEAVEN! NONE! Only Islam thinks they will have sex with their God's gifts to them!
The NEW body has no sex, that is what God meant. And there is also no RACE. That is what God meant! But here on earth in Christ, we are still man and woman, and Greek and Jew. But we are all ONE BODY. Not all are prohets, not all are pastors, not all are teachers. Some is just members! All women, EVERY one of them should be silent in church. PERIOD. Even the MEN that has no prophecy, tongue or revelation should also be quiet.
Oh apperently they will all sing.... Psalms. That is what scripture says. But hey we tossed all the other factors out of how to be a TRUTH PREACHER, so why not appoint women to also teach FALSE DOCTRINE! Greenie there are VERY FEW God-aapointed men as pastors. and I gaurentee you NO WOMAN was EVER appointed by God te be a pastor. This I believe with all I got. There is not ONE verse that even suggest otherwise not ONE!
Twisted verses maybe, and they come up short SOON! All women pastors are apoointed by themselves or Satan's children. God will not go against HIMSLEF! that will make even GOD FALL! Satan appoints MANY false pastors, That is his job and he does it better than we do ours. So be ashamed on this, I am!
Women please refrain from speaking, you might just keep God OUT of your church. And that weak men in your church, tell them at home you want to know why they have no GOD IN THEM. Ask your husbands... WHY ARE YOU SO DEAD IN FAITH? Come on men, TAKE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to heart and be THE PRIEST OF YOUR HOUSE. YOU CANNOT appoint your wife to be the priest of the home, YOU ARE APPOINTED BY GOD TO BE THE PRIEST AND MAN! Stop being a WHIMP and CHIMP. Read your Bible and LEAD your WIFE AND CHILDREN.
Young men, LEARN YOUR BIBLES, and STAY IN THE TRUTH. And be a blessing to some woman one day. Become her HEAD as Christ is your HEAD! Men, wake up, or you will be sorry, TOO LATE!
Ok many people like to refer to the verse that their are no man or wman in Christ, we are all equal. Does this mean I will also be falling preagnant with children now? Come on, that is not what God meant. And in any case there is NO SEX IN HEAVEN! NONE! Only Islam thinks they will have sex with their God's gifts to them!
The NEW body has no sex, that is what God meant. And there is also no RACE. That is what God meant! But here on earth in Christ, we are still man and woman, and Greek and Jew. But we are all ONE BODY. Not all are prohets, not all are pastors, not all are teachers. Some is just members! All women, EVERY one of them should be silent in church. PERIOD. Even the MEN that has no prophecy, tongue or revelation should also be quiet.
Oh apperently they will all sing.... Psalms. That is what scripture says. But hey we tossed all the other factors out of how to be a TRUTH PREACHER, so why not appoint women to also teach FALSE DOCTRINE! Greenie there are VERY FEW God-aapointed men as pastors. and I gaurentee you NO WOMAN was EVER appointed by God te be a pastor. This I believe with all I got. There is not ONE verse that even suggest otherwise not ONE!
Twisted verses maybe, and they come up short SOON! All women pastors are apoointed by themselves or Satan's children. God will not go against HIMSLEF! that will make even GOD FALL! Satan appoints MANY false pastors, That is his job and he does it better than we do ours. So be ashamed on this, I am!
Women please refrain from speaking, you might just keep God OUT of your church. And that weak men in your church, tell them at home you want to know why they have no GOD IN THEM. Ask your husbands... WHY ARE YOU SO DEAD IN FAITH? Come on men, TAKE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to heart and be THE PRIEST OF YOUR HOUSE. YOU CANNOT appoint your wife to be the priest of the home, YOU ARE APPOINTED BY GOD TO BE THE PRIEST AND MAN! Stop being a WHIMP and CHIMP. Read your Bible and LEAD your WIFE AND CHILDREN.
Young men, LEARN YOUR BIBLES, and STAY IN THE TRUTH. And be a blessing to some woman one day. Become her HEAD as Christ is your HEAD! Men, wake up, or you will be sorry, TOO LATE!
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GreenNnice
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Your points are against supporting God's world now, with women pastors APPOINTED by God.
Why don't you just believe God when He says, ' My ways are not your ways and My thoughts are not your thoughts.'
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rillolion
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Tintin
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Error, error, error.
Cobus, my gender in Heaven WILL be the same as it is here on Earth. I WILL remain Australian/Polish in Heaven. I WILL be given a new body in Christ, but I WILL still be me. I WILL be united with Christ and other Christians (One Body). I will NOT be absorbed into some collective understanding of God, along with other Christians and Christ, that's not what it's saying. Please be careful to read the Bible in context.
Cobus, my gender in Heaven WILL be the same as it is here on Earth. I WILL remain Australian/Polish in Heaven. I WILL be given a new body in Christ, but I WILL still be me. I WILL be united with Christ and other Christians (One Body). I will NOT be absorbed into some collective understanding of God, along with other Christians and Christ, that's not what it's saying. Please be careful to read the Bible in context.
Tintin not you neither ANY MAN OR WOMAN, will be given out in marriage. There is no marriages in heaven. Remember what Jesus answered when the Pharisee tried to trick him into whose wife will the woman be? Jesus said.... Do ye not therefore ERR, becasue you know not scriptures, neither the power of God? For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; BUT ARE AS THE ANGELS WHICH ARE IN HEAVEN. Mark 12. I did not say you would not be you, but you will not be ONE WITH ANY ONE OTHER PERSON BUT GOD! That is what God teaches. Marriage is only for earth. Luke 20. BUT THEY THAT SHOULD BE ACCOUNTED WORTHY.... to obtain that world NEITHER MARRY , nor are given in marriage.
That is what I meant. NO NEED FOR SEXES OR RACES! The NEW Body does not have color. Angels do not come in races or sexes. They are just holy beings and all look like the PEOPLE OF GOD! Angels of LIGHT! Children of the LIGHT!
That is what I meant. NO NEED FOR SEXES OR RACES! The NEW Body does not have color. Angels do not come in races or sexes. They are just holy beings and all look like the PEOPLE OF GOD! Angels of LIGHT! Children of the LIGHT!
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Tintin
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I never said we would be married in Heaven. We will be in community with each other and with the Triune God (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). Also, while angels are genderless, people aren't angels.
You are right. I was not approaching the question correctly or effectively. My true question is now this: Would you please add your prayers that I peacefully and righteously bring the church to them.
Micheal, if you stay in God's Word you will bring it to them like God wants, but for them to accept the Truth and RECIEVE the Spirit of Truth is another discussion. If they are LEAD by the Spirit of Truth, The Holy Spirit, they will eat it like sweet cake, but if they are WORLDLY they will reject the truth to continue in their errored ways.
My prayers are with you, and I KNOW God will help you with the Truth. That is what HE has ALWAYS been doing. Give the Word of God, the Truth by the Spirit of Truth, and only a few accepted and believed it. That does not change the Truth, it only PROOVE God's Word.... The World CANNOT receive the Spirit of Truth.... Just look right here on CC how many Truly believe the Word of God... ALL VERSES!
Very few young man. And I pray God you are one of the VERY few, that also need not to EDIT the Bible to suit his errored ways. Right here in this thread you see MANY that needs to PROVE something with a lot of verses that they twist oh ever so slightly, only to PROVE they are wrong, if one other verse is mentioned!
My friend please always ask me also what I think about a situation, and give my take on things also a thought. I might just be a confirmation on what God shared with you. Thank you for your friendship.
Cobus.
My prayers are with you, and I KNOW God will help you with the Truth. That is what HE has ALWAYS been doing. Give the Word of God, the Truth by the Spirit of Truth, and only a few accepted and believed it. That does not change the Truth, it only PROOVE God's Word.... The World CANNOT receive the Spirit of Truth.... Just look right here on CC how many Truly believe the Word of God... ALL VERSES!
Very few young man. And I pray God you are one of the VERY few, that also need not to EDIT the Bible to suit his errored ways. Right here in this thread you see MANY that needs to PROVE something with a lot of verses that they twist oh ever so slightly, only to PROVE they are wrong, if one other verse is mentioned!
My friend please always ask me also what I think about a situation, and give my take on things also a thought. I might just be a confirmation on what God shared with you. Thank you for your friendship.
Cobus.
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Abiding
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the next thread should be called:
Why??do you support female pastors?
with a disclaimer: no bible reference support necessary.
Why??do you support female pastors?
with a disclaimer: no bible reference support necessary.
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GreenNnice
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I support Scripture but I SEE people getting saved by the 'vessels' of Paula White, Joyce Meyers, and, to a lesser 'radio' degree, Elizabeth Elliott.
I wonder what those SAVED by Joyce Meyers would say to the mocking unbelievers of God appointing women as pastors, squirrelabider ?
Anyway, I support God's reality and He USES all of us, NOT women as pastors over churches very often, but He does when that kind of 'order' is neeeded, I've already given 'exceptional' reasons why a woman could be appointed by God, like a church of abused, maybe, last pastor was a man who did damage to the fabric of the church. or, ???
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BarlyGurl
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Green... I am wondering why you keep hammering at this... the consensus seems to be scripture supports women are authorized to rightly divide the scriptures... but scripture does not support ORDINATION... except for a few who take the scripture out of context it appears most agree the scriptures say a woman has equal authority to minister to others in scripture and doctrinal understanding... but it is outside Biblical Hierarchy for women to be ORDAINED Head/leaders of the assemblies. Chill out... please.
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GreenNnice
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Just the facts, ma'am, you seeing what I'm seeing today. Women ARE ordained.
Is Joyce Meyer ordained? Paula White? I think so. Not that it really matters, but isn't it Dr. PAULA White, and, Dr. JOYCE MEYERS
Where is it said in Scripture women are not to EVER be ordained, pastors? Pure Scripture, please, just the truth, ma'am .
And, c'mon, admit it, barlegurlfan, I make a GREAT 'Joe Friday.'
The Lord leads, and, true, women are not to speak over a man , so, don't do it, but if irt's done, then SUPPORT IT, for many are WON to Christ by women being vessels over all, men and women. There is 'something' unique in the wisdom of women pastors, too.
Anyway, I just feel sorry for your judging, because God appointed them, or, is suffering them, as a LOT of folks don't go with God's best laid plans but what does God do? He gets them through.
The Lord leads us, through our many stumbles, and, IF a woman is pastor of a church, don't judge it UNLESS you go and see it's an abomination culture of Christ. Because God matches men and women and male or female heading churches and what God has ORDAINED, so to speak, SUPPORT.. Or, you might well be in His way, in way of His thoughts for a solution to that church needing a ordered situation different from the rule.
HIS thoughts atr not our thoughts and HIS ways are higher than our thoughts.
Is Joyce Meyer ordained? Paula White? I think so. Not that it really matters, but isn't it Dr. PAULA White, and, Dr. JOYCE MEYERS
Where is it said in Scripture women are not to EVER be ordained, pastors? Pure Scripture, please, just the truth, ma'am .
And, c'mon, admit it, barlegurlfan, I make a GREAT 'Joe Friday.'
The Lord leads, and, true, women are not to speak over a man , so, don't do it, but if irt's done, then SUPPORT IT, for many are WON to Christ by women being vessels over all, men and women. There is 'something' unique in the wisdom of women pastors, too.
Anyway, I just feel sorry for your judging, because God appointed them, or, is suffering them, as a LOT of folks don't go with God's best laid plans but what does God do? He gets them through.
The Lord leads us, through our many stumbles, and, IF a woman is pastor of a church, don't judge it UNLESS you go and see it's an abomination culture of Christ. Because God matches men and women and male or female heading churches and what God has ORDAINED, so to speak, SUPPORT.
. Or, you might well be in His way, in way of His thoughts for a solution to that church needing a ordered situation different from the rule. HIS thoughts atr not our thoughts and HIS ways are higher than our thoughts.
Greenie, I have NEVER seen a person saved... I cannot listen to Joyce Meyers, she is a false teacher. But that is not surprising, she even disordained herselj from God's Truth right here..... Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; and....
for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
You say God appointed her? haha, it is a joke is it not. God does not appoint women in men's postions, not even if BOTH Is filled with the Holy Spirit. Or did the Truth come only to Joyce? She even give me the creeps, so shady is her "ministery" Evil I say EVIL!
for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
You say God appointed her? haha, it is a joke is it not. God does not appoint women in men's postions, not even if BOTH Is filled with the Holy Spirit. Or did the Truth come only to Joyce? She even give me the creeps, so shady is her "ministery" Evil I say EVIL!
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BarlyGurl
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this is tiresome and I am NOT going to quibble with you over vocabulary but #1) Having the A DOCTORATE attached to your name means you have an education NOT that you are an ORDAINED PASTOR... and actually Joyce Myers' is honorary... I have heard her say so more than once. 2) IMO Paula white is a outright KOOK but both women are free to minister and teach in seminars... which they do... however the "Church leadership structure should have the same order and authority as the "assembly" "family" "marriage"...christianity is a patriarchal system and when you want to infuse matriarchy into it there is disorder... get it.Just the facts, ma'am, you seeing what I'm seeing today. Women ARE ordained.
Is Joyce Meyer ordained? Paula White? I think so. Not that it really matters, but isn't it Dr. PAULA White, and, Dr. JOYCE MEYERS
Where is it said in Scripture women are not to EVER be ordained, pastors? Pure Scripture, please, just the truth, ma'am .
And, c'mon, admit it, barlegurlfan, I make a GREAT 'Joe Friday.'
The Lord leads, and, true, women are not to speak over a man , so, don't do it, but if irt's done, then SUPPORT IT, for many are WON to Christ by women being vessels over all, men and women. There is 'something' unique in the wisdom of women pastors, too.
Anyway, I just feel sorry for your judging, because God appointed them, or, is suffering them, as a LOT of folks don't go with God's best laid plans but what does God do? He gets them through.
The Lord leads us, through our many stumbles, and, IF a woman is pastor of a church, don't judge it UNLESS you go and see it's an abomination culture of Christ. Because God matches men and women and male or female heading churches and what God has ORDAINED, so to speak, SUPPORT.
HIS thoughts are not our thoughts and HIS ways are higher than our thoughts.
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Abiding
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How do you know who gets saved? Plus none of those you listed are pastors either.
2 of those on your list dont even preach the real gospel.
They teach Jesus didnt finish our atonement on the cross
and paid our debt to the devil.
So if you are that uninformed who you promote
how would one expect you to understand scripture?
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