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Unfortunatly where I used to work I saw to many people who shouldn't have children, have children. I wish more people would use birth control. Especially the kind where you cross your legs and not have sex at all. I really believe some people are not called to be parents. It doesn't mean you don't like kids, or you don't feel that they are a blessing. You can be a mentor to a child, believe me there are many children who could use one of those. If you don't feel like you want children pray about it. If God calls you to have them you will.
not sure what this has to do with people using contraceptives to prevented unwanted pregnancies in a marriage but here goes. To me it means I follow and believe in Jesus Christ and in what he lived, died, rose again for. To be honest you won't find much old testament lawspeak from me, especially on things Jesus never spoke about. Like this topic. What do you think is more Godly anyways, having children responsibly or having children on accident because you decided to enjoy your wife in a sexual manner even though you both know you arent ready financially or in maturity to raise kids. So if you are actually advocating husbands and wives abstaining as the only acceptable 'contraceptive' then Im sorry I believe you are wrong and that isn't going to change.
Well, you will find a lot about the old testament from me because I believe that Christ came to fulfill all of the old testament and Christ didn't want one jot taken away. And I think the study of the whole bible says a lot about having children. Scripture says to be fruitful and multiply. It also says that God is love, and we see everything He does traces back to that. He broke the literal law, like not to work on Sabbath, in order to keep the supreme law, to love.
If we put love and well being of the children we bring into the world first, we will not "multiply" when our children would be in want or suffer. We would be acting like the Pharisee Christ scolded, ignoring the supreme law to keep the literal law.
If we put love and well being of the children we bring into the world first, we will not "multiply" when our children would be in want or suffer. We would be acting like the Pharisee Christ scolded, ignoring the supreme law to keep the literal law.
I cannot agree with this. Christ did not break any law. Whether one calls it literal or whatever. He was falsely accused of doing so though. Remember that sin is transgression of the law (1John 3:4). Yet He really kept every jot and tittle of the whole law. Christ - the only man who is perfectly sinless.
J
On what basis does that nullify Psalm 127:3?
Psalm 127:3 says that they are a gift, a blessing with no asterisk regarding whether you feel personally ready or not. Why should we oppose God, and tell him we know better than he?
I don't think I have said it automatically involves children. To avoid children on the basis of "it really cramps my style and my budget" is a rather selfish and prideful approach, and seeks to say to God, "Sorry, that whole blessing/gift thing is bogus, I know better than you."
Psalm 127:3 says that they are a gift, a blessing with no asterisk regarding whether you feel personally ready or not. Why should we oppose God, and tell him we know better than he?
I don't think I have said it automatically involves children. To avoid children on the basis of "it really cramps my style and my budget" is a rather selfish and prideful approach, and seeks to say to God, "Sorry, that whole blessing/gift thing is bogus, I know better than you."
C
Then it comes down to either:
A. Get married once you're ready to immediately have children, or
B. Get married because you can't control your sexual desire, use contraceptives/abstinence to prevent pregnancy while you're still not ready to bear children
?
This is greatly disputable. I want kids but I don't want to have them early in my marriage because I know there are so many things to adjust between my husband and I, from two individuals into one. Adding a child into this scene is IMHO not the wisest thing to do. But to do abstinence is probably not the wisest thing to do either. Then there are contraceptions. Although I heard those using contraceptive and then wanting to conceive have a hard time conceiving, but I also know first-hand stories of those still under contraceptive but still conceived anyway (in their amazement -- and shock).
So, IMHO, I have nothing against the contraceptives because should God will one to conceive, nothing can prevent Him from doing it: not even contraceptives (ref: Mary and Elizabeth).
B for me.
A. Get married once you're ready to immediately have children, or
B. Get married because you can't control your sexual desire, use contraceptives/abstinence to prevent pregnancy while you're still not ready to bear children
?
This is greatly disputable. I want kids but I don't want to have them early in my marriage because I know there are so many things to adjust between my husband and I, from two individuals into one. Adding a child into this scene is IMHO not the wisest thing to do. But to do abstinence is probably not the wisest thing to do either. Then there are contraceptions. Although I heard those using contraceptive and then wanting to conceive have a hard time conceiving, but I also know first-hand stories of those still under contraceptive but still conceived anyway (in their amazement -- and shock).
So, IMHO, I have nothing against the contraceptives because should God will one to conceive, nothing can prevent Him from doing it: not even contraceptives (ref: Mary and Elizabeth).
B for me.
It is God who gives children so they are a blessing from him. Children like many other blessing from the lord are not always appreciated. In the Bible one of Judahs sons died for trying not to have children.
Matthew 19:12 For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.
The world does not say how many children to have but does show we are not to destroy the seed. If you don't want children don't get married. If you do get married put it in God's hands and who knows.
Matthew 19:12 For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.
The world does not say how many children to have but does show we are not to destroy the seed. If you don't want children don't get married. If you do get married put it in God's hands and who knows.
