Are all religions equal?

[Rock022]

Hello everybody I found this video answering; are all religions equal? I found it to be real simple. This video does not talk about christian religions, it talks about religions in general

Link > Are all religions equal? | Catholic Answers

 

[sanglina]

Jesus said, "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life; No one comes to the Father except through me". This verse should be more than enough to tell us of which religion is the one true religion.

 

[Rock022]

Did you watch the video? It is taking the general statement that people use "all religions are equal" it only explains how this statement is false. You can tell that to a non christian but they would still tell us "all religions are the same"

 

[jimmydiggs]

No, of course not. Different religions have different spiritual value, per se. An example would be Christianity having more spiritual value than Catholicism.

 

[Precious_Sunflower]

No, of course not. Different religions have different spiritual value, per se. An example would be Christianity having more spiritual value than Catholicism.

Then I could say that what Benny Hinn and Todd Bentley do has less spiritual value than how someone in a old fashioned and quiet church with their whole heart set on the Lord and God's Word has to be much more spiritual than them again.

Just because you have a bad experience of Catholics, doesn't means that we should judge all of them. Same as just because of me having a bad experience of those who likes or supports Benny Hinn and Todd Bentley, shouldn't mean that I should judge them and all those churches of having less spiritual value.

God knows every person's heart, and there are many good things in many churches, also in the Catholic ones. Sure do not say that I agree and support with everything they do and say. But same way I think about Pentecostal, Baptist, Vineyard, Evangelical, and many other similiar churches. There are a lot that I don't agree with nor support in those churches too, as not everything they have is always pure Scriptural.

 

[jimmydiggs]

Then I could say that what Benny Hinn and Todd Bentley do has less spiritual value

Benny Hinn and Todd Bentley are not beneficial to the soul in any way.

Just because you have a bad experience of Catholics, doesn't means that we should judge all of them.

It has nothing to do with personal experience. I have found Catholics to be quite polished on the outside. It is a matter of the Gospel.

Same as just because of me having a bad experience of those who likes or supports Benny Hinn and Todd Bentley, shouldn't mean that I should judge them and all those churches of having less spiritual value.

If you judge one by the other, that can definitely be problematic. What is at stake here though, is the Gospel. Neither Hinn nor Bentley preach it.

God knows every person's heart

Indeed.

as not everything they have is always pure Scriptural.

I don't expect purity on this side of eternity. I do expect that a church preach the Gospel, something Catholicism does not do.

 

[Rock022]

I do expect that a church preach the Gospel, something Catholicism does not do.

Do you have proof of this Jimmy? Because everything done at mass comes from the bible. Tthe readings in the weekend is old testament scripture, then a sang psalm, then new testament scripture and the Gospel. Every day of the week at 9am catholic churches around the world celebrate mass, and we read one old or new testament scripture, a psalm and a gospel. If you attend mass every sunday you would have read it al in 3 yearsl, if you go every day you read the bible in two years.

It is the larges bible study in the world. And all of the new testament is read in a 3 year cycle or 2 year cycle.

This is the page of roman catholics in america. In the right side you will see a calendar, you can click on any day you want and see the scriptures to be read that day. Try it and see for yourself how misinformed you are that catholics do not read the bible at mass.

United States Conference of Catholic Bishops < link

 

[RedTent]

No, of course not. Different religions have different spiritual value, per se. An example would be Christianity having more spiritual value than Catholicism.

Jimmy, you often miss the point that God is trying to tell you about in your search for perfection in God. God gives law, the law is divine. Love and not judging others is the basis of that law. You can say that you find that someone acts in a way not in line with God's law, but to totally condemn that person is God's place, not yours. You are condemning all of a large number of people, many of them are God's children. You are condemning a whole church, much of that church acknowledges Christ as their savior and personally ask for His forgiveness. You have no right to do this.

 

[jimmydiggs]

Jimmy, you often miss the point that God is trying to tell you about in your search for perfection in God. God gives law, the law is divine. Love and not judging others is the basis of that law. You can say that you find that someone acts in a way not in line with God's law, but to totally condemn that person is God's place, not yours. You are condemning all of a large number of people, many of them are God's children. You are condemning a whole church, much of that church acknowledges Christ as their savior and personally ask for His forgiveness. You have no right to do this.

Paul says if they preach not the Gospel, let them be accursed. The Roman Catholic church does not preach the Gospel.

 

[Rock022]

Paul says if they preach not the Gospel, let them be accursed. The Roman Catholic church does not preach the Gospel.

Why are you still giving false witness? I showed you the mass readings, I guess you did not wanted to see the truth of the matter.

 

[RedTent]

Paul says if they preach not the Gospel, let them be accursed. The Roman Catholic church does not preach the Gospel.

It says "If" let them "be" accursed. It does not say you are to judge them and curse them, you are not God. If it is true that they are not preaching the gospel, God will take care of it. If they are and you are cursing them, God will take care of that, too.

 

[Batman007]

It's all perspective. A Christian will say Christianity is better, a Muslim will say Islam is better, a Hindu will say Hinduism is better, and an observer will say they're all the same.

Plus, I guess it depends on what you mean by equal. They're not equal in what they teach, but they are equal in the sense that they're all religions.

 

[Rock022]

It's all perspective. A Christian will say Christianity is better, a Muslim will say Islam is better, a Hindu will say Hinduism is better, and an observer will say they're all the same.

Plus, I guess it depends on what you mean by equal. They're not equal in what they teach, but they are equal in the sense that they're all religions.

Didi you watch the short video?

 

[Batman007]

Didi you watch the short video?

ahhh no, i forgot to

 

[trukin]

[h=1]The Mass and the sacrifice of Christ[/h]
by Matt Slick
In Roman Catholicism the Mass is equivalent to The Lord's Supper, the communion offering. The word "mass" is derived from the Latin missa. The mass is a series of rituals centered around the communion supper. It is also called the Eucharistic Supper. According to the New Saint Joseph Baltimore Catechism, vol 2, question 357, "The mass is the sacrifice of the new law in which Christ, through the Ministry of the priest, offers himself to God in an unbloody manner under the appearances of bread and wine. The mass is the sacrifice of Christ offered in a sacramental manner...the reality is the same but the appearances differ." Question 358 asks "What is a sacrifice?" The answer given is "A sacrifice is the offering of a victim by a priest to God alone, and the destruction of it in some way to knowledge that he is the creator of all things." From the Baltimore catechism we can conclude that the mass is the offering of Christ, by a priest.
According to Roman Catholicism, Christ instituted the Mass when he said, "This is my body," (Matt. 26:26) and"This is my blood," (Matt. 26:28). Furthermore, Roman Catholicism teaches that when Jesus said "Do this in remembrance of me," he gave the apostles and hence his future priests the power to change bread and wine into his body and blood, (Baltimore Catechism, Vol. 2, Q. 354). Therefore, during the ceremony of the Mass during the part of the liturgy known as the consecration, the priest changes of bread and wine into Christ's body and blood (Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1105).
In checking out the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC), The Catholic Encyclopedia, and The Council of Trent, we find the following: The Eucharist is referred to in several ways.

1. As a sacrifice
   1. "the holy sacrifice of the Eucharist," (CCC, 1055) and "the Eucharist is also a sacrifice," (CCC, 1365).
2. As a divine sacrifice
   1. "For it is in the liturgy, especially in the divine sacrifice of the Eucharist, that "the work of our redemption is accomplished," (CCC, 1068).
3. As a representation of the sacrifice of Christ
   1. "The Eucharist is thus a sacrifice because it re-presents (makes present) the sacrifice of the cross," (CCC, 1366).
4. Is 'one single sacrifice' with Christ's sacrifice
   1. "The sacrifice of Christ and the sacrifice of the Eucharist are one single sacrifice," (CCC, 1367).
5. It is the same sacrifice of Christ
   1. "And since in this divine sacrifice which is celebrated in the Mass, the same Christ who offered himself once in a bloody manner on the altar of the cross is contained and is offered in an unbloody manner," (CCC, 1367).
6. It is propitiatory (removes the wrath of God)
   1. "...this sacrifice is truly propitiatory," (CCC, 1367).
7. To all who deny its propitiatory nature Trent pronounces anathema
   1. "If any one saith, that the sacrifice of the mass is only a sacrifice of praise and of thanksgiving; or, that it is a bare commemoration of the sacrifice consummated on the cross, but not a propitiatory sacrifice; or, that it profits him only who receives; and that it ought not to be offered for the living and the dead for sins, pains, satisfactions, and other necessities; let him be anathema." (Trent: On the Sacrifice of the Mass: Canon 3);
8. It is called the sacrifice of Christ which is offered via the priest's hands
   1. "The sacrifice of Christ the only Mediator, which in the Eucharist is offered through the priests' hands," (CCC, 1369).
9. It is capable of making reparation of sins
   1. "As sacrifice, the Eucharist is also offered in reparation for the sins of the living and the dead," (CCC, 1414).
10. It is to be considered a true and proper sacrifice
    1. "The Church intends the Mass to be regarded as a 'true and proper sacrifice'", (The Catholic Encyclopedia, topic: "Sacrifice of the Mass").

[h=2]Is the Mass a re-sacrifice of Christ?[/h]Roman Catholics are quick to say that the Eucharist is not a re-sacrifice of Christ. They want to make it clear that Christ was offered once for all and that the Mass is not a re-sacrifice but a "re-presentation" of the sacrifice. We certainly do not want to misrepresent Roman Catholic theology, but we must ask how it is possible for the Mass to not be a re-sacrifice of Christ when the Mass is called a divine sacrifice (CCC, 1068) that is done over and over again. We are told that "the sacrifice of Christ and the sacrifice of the Eucharist are one single sacrifice"; (CCC, 1367); that it is an unbloody offering that is proptiatory, (CCC, 1367); that it can make reparation of sins, (CCC, 1414); and is to be considered a true and proper sacrifice (The Catholic Encyclopedia, topic: "Sacrifice of the Mass"). We must conclude that it is a sacrifice that occurs over and over again and since it is said to be a true and proper sacrifice that is propitiatory, then logically it must be a re-sacrifice of Christ. If it is not, then how can it be called a sacrifice of Christ? Also, how could it be propitiatory if it is not a sacrifice of Christ since it is Christ's offering on the cross that is itself propitiatory?

• "Therefore, He had to be made like His brethren in all things, that He might become a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people," (Heb. 2:17).
• "and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world," (1 John 2:2).

[h=2]Biblical Response[/h]We risk the Roman Catholic saying that the biblical response to their position is a response to a straw man. Typically, the Roman Catholic will say that the Mass is not a re-sacrifice. But it is difficult to conclude otherwise when we examine what the official Roman Catholic documents say. Therefore we surmise that if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, it must be a duck. Likewise, if the Mass is said to be a sacrifice of Christ and is repeated, then we must conclude that it is a continuing sacrifice, a re-sacrifice of Christ since the Catholic Church says that this very sacrifice is propitiatory (removes the wrath of God) and it is only the actual sacrifice of Jesus that can accomplish propitiation.
The Bible tells us plenty about the sacrifice of Christ. Please consider the following verses:

1. Sacrifice offered once
   1. "For it was fitting that we should have such a high priest, holy, innocent, undefiled, separated from sinners and exalted above the heavens; [SUP]27[/SUP] who does not need daily, like those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins, and then for the sins of the people, because this He did once for all when He offered up Himself," (Heb. 7:26-27).
   2. "So Christ also, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, shall appear a second time for salvation without reference to sin, to those who eagerly await Him," (Heb. 9:28).
   3. "By this will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all, [SUP]11[/SUP] And every priest stands daily ministering and offering time after time the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins; [SUP]12[/SUP] but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, sat down at the right hand of God," (Heb. 10:10-12).
2. Sacrifice repetition of no value
   1. "For the Law, since it has only a shadow of the good things to come and not the very form of things, can never by the same sacrifices year by year, which they offer continually, make perfect those who draw near," (Heb. 10:1).
   2. "And every priest stands daily ministering and offering time after time the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins," (Heb. 10:11).

We can see that the Bible tells us Christ offered himself once and that there is no need for repetition of his sacrifice. The failure of the Roman Catholic Church has been to distort the biblical doctrine of the Lord's Supper into a constant and repetitious sacrifice of Christ. It should be plain to the reader that the Roman Catholic position is not only unbiblical but anti-biblical.
We at CARM humbly request that the Roman Catholic not put his or her faith in the Mass but instead turn to the one and true sacrifice of Christ, by faith, and look to Jesus alone and not a human institution that offers a repetitious sacrifice. We are made right by the blood of Christ, not by the offering of a Roman Catholic priest who changes the bread and wine into the literal body and blood of Christ.

• "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness," (1 John 1:9).
• "Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him," (Rom. 5:9).
• "Therefore having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ," (Rom. 5:1).

 

[jimmydiggs]

Why are you still giving false witness? I showed you the mass readings, I guess you did not wanted to see the truth of the matter.

I gave a breif skim. The reading of some scripture does not make one a professor of the Chrisitan Gospel.

 

[Rock022]

I gave a breif skim. The reading of some scripture does not make one a professor of the Chrisitan Gospel.

That is ok you do not have to belief the way we do, but please do not give false witness, we read the bible at the celebration of mass every day.

 

[jimmydiggs]

That is ok you do not have to belief the way we do, but please do not give false witness, we read the bible at the celebration of mass every day.

What does the reading of scripture have to do with making one a Christian? My university professors have no trouble in reading from scripture. Does that mean they are Christian when they are trying to indoctrinate young minds to atheism?

 

[Rock022]

What does the reading of scripture have to do with making one a Christian? My university professors have no trouble in reading from scripture. Does that mean they are Christian when they are trying to indoctrinate young minds to atheism?

Because you have said time and time again catholics do not read the bible. I just prove it to you that is all.

 

[jimmydiggs]

Because you have said time and time again catholics do not read the bible.

What? Are you confusing me with someone else? I have said repeatedly they do not preach the Gospel. Catholics open bibles all the time. Whether they understand it, is another matter entirely. (EDIT: by this I mean, that if we equate reading with understanding, then yes every Catholic I have met so far fails to do so) In that matter, understanding, I don't think Catholics read often. As for opening a bible, and thinking on ones personal view of it, yes, they do it quite frequently.

I just prove it to you that is all.

Fine. The question remains: How does that remedy the lack of the Gospel?