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Eagleridge

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GodBible - Read Romans chapter 1 on this subject matter - and try to interpret it any other way - the Epistles were written to the saints and are there to tell us how to live for God TODAY - this is a slam dunk - unless you want to live the lifestyle and defend it -
 
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Eagleridge

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GODBIBLE - LIE WITH ...NOT LIE TO ..
 

starfield

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Would we still have this notion of "sin" and the importance placed upon it if the Bible didn't mention it?
The bible mentions homosexuality and condemns it.

Romans 1:26-32
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

1 Cor 6:9-11
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.


1 Tim 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
 
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The bible mentions homosexuality and condemns it.

Romans 1:26-32
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

1 Cor 6:9-11
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.


1 Tim 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
I believe you missed the point. Please re-read the question.
Would we still have this notion of "sin" and the importance placed upon it if the Bible didn't mention it?
 

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tribesman

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It's totally irrelevant how I feel. Tell me why you are here instead. Attack christians who believe what the Bible says? Or just trolling?
 
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Hey Newcause - please don't think I'm patronizing you - but if you're an atheist, why are you hanging around a Christian Chat forum?.....go back to the HOME PAGE and look up ATHEISTS (my thread) and read what I said about the topic (several entries) and come back and tell me your HONEST (heartfelt) thoughts...not the FRONT you're putting up or the IMAGE you want the public to see but the REAL you and let's talk about your DECLARATION..that you're an atheist....I want to help you with that....I CAN .....down deep, you WANT to believe and I feel the Lord brought me to this forum to touch IF ONLY ONE PERSON ....could that me you?....with the knowledge and wisdom He imparted to me over the 30 years I've walked with him...I'm just a vessel.....no one special...trust me...I know that....just an extension of Him...please just think about it and let's talk in a private forum if you choose - but somehow, I feel you're reaching for God.......HE'S REACHING FOR YOU....I started up a prison ministry several months ago in Maximum Security in Ottawa.....meeting inmates with similar beliefs.....let me help you send you something I wrote recently (easy to read) "The Pursuit of God" ....answers to ALL your questions ....Sincerely - Paul
I appreciate it. Never have I called myself an atheist though; I just don't believe in God. There's a difference between that and being an atheist, because an atheist will do his best to present arguments why there is no God, but I'm not out to start such a discussion here. Basically I'm open to a lot of things, and this christian forum is just one of them. Like the apostle said: 'test everything, hold on to the good.' We will see how it goes...
 

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What about Christians who disagree with that part of the Bible? Are we just here to attack as well Tribesman?
 

zone

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What about Christians who disagree with that part of the Bible? Are we just here to attack as well Tribesman?
Naut...pssst....christians don't disagree with the Bible.

this is 101, Naut.
come on.
 
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jimmydiggs

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Actually in Leviticus 18:22
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

It could mean "lie" as in not telling the truth.
Vocabulary fail for the win?
 
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jimmydiggs

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I believe you missed the point. Please re-read the question.
Would we still have this notion of "sin" and the importance placed upon it if the Bible didn't mention it?
Sure would. Whether God decided to reveal it to us or not, the law would still be upon our hearts.
 
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When you discriminate against others due to religious beliefs
it's time to start questioning the religion.
 
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Sure would. Whether God decided to reveal it to us or not, the law would still be upon our hearts.
Well according to the "law"...

Leviticus 11:7-8 reads:

And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.
Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.

Leviticus 19:28 states:

Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.

Leviticus 19:27 states:

Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.

Deuteronomy 23:1 states:

He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

Leviticus 19:16 states:

Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour; I am the LORD.

Deuteronomy 25:11-12 states:

When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her.

Exodus 21:17 states:

"And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.

Mark 10:11-12 states:

Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.

Exodus 31:14-15 states:

"Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 states:

Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

Leviticus 10-11 states:

And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you: They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.

Deuteronomy 22:20-21 states:

But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you


Why does homosexuality get singled out and all these other things get a free pass?


 
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Eagleridge

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I think that it is first a good thing to know that , ' Homsexuality ' , is a spirit that attaches itself to those who have had parental intimacy issues . And I'm not just talking about incest . I am speaking of the misunderstanding or misdirection of a parental figure towards a childs creative sensitivities , outright neglect , or simply just not being there at a time when the child was most vulnerable . Just as I believe that most pornography addictions stem from a desire to see two people being intimate with each other , with the viewer being in a controlling position , versus harkening back to a time when parental intimacy was lost , and beyond the childs control . I say these things because I believe it is wisdom that leads us to love the homosexual , based on Gods Grace and Love and Mercy , knowing that they are controlled by something which they may hate , but feel powerless to break it's stronghold over their lives . We in all things have to know , that even though God hates the spirit of homosexuality , he loves the person who has been caught in it's grip , even though they may not even realize that they are in bondage . Simply pray for them , love them , don't preach to them in such a way that will close them off from the Gospel . The Bible says that it is the ' Goodness ' of God that leads us to repentance . Lets seperate the tormenting spirit , from the person . When we can begin to do that , I believe then that we can begin to fullfill the calling of Isaiah . To ' Bind up the brokenhearted , and to set at liberty the captives ' .
WOW TRIFECTA - SUCH BEAUTIFUL WISDOM - SO TRUE - ALL OF IT - LOVE THE SINNER, HATE THE SIN - OF COURSE NOBODY WAS BORN WITH THE "HOMESEXUAL" GENE - MY GOD WOULDN'T DO THAT TO ANYONE...NOT ONE...BORN WITH SUCH A DISADVANTAGE ....MALE INTO A FEMALE BODY...FEMALE INTO A MALE BODY - THAT'S CALLED ENTRAPMENT - THE GOD I SERVE AND LOVE WOULD NOT ALLOW THAT MUTATION - IT'S PICKED UP OUTSIDE OF THE WOMB....FROM ALL KINDS OF INFLUENCES...ENVIRONMENT, PARENTS, TEACHERS, FRIENDS, THE MEDIA ETC. - BIBLE TALKS ABOUT THE "NATURAL USE OF THE BODY" - CREATED TO PRO-CREATE - ANYTHING ELSE GOES AGAINST THE VERY NATURE OF GOD - WE DON'T JUDGE THEM...THE WORD OF GOD DOES AND THE REASON I SPEND SO MUCH TIME REFERENCING EVERYTHING I SAY TO AND FROM THE BIBLE - THEY CHOOSE TO BELIEVE THE DOCTRINE OF MEN (THAT TOOK GOD OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS TO TEACH EVOLUTION) AND NOT THE SOUND DOCTRINE OF THE CREATOR - THANX FOR YOUR INPUT TRIFECTA - IT'S VERY SOUND - LORD BLESS - PAUL
 
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Eagleridge

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When you discriminate against others due to religious beliefs
it's time to start questioning the religion.
THAT'S WHY I NEVER DISCRIMINATE - DISCRIMINATE IS TO JUDGE - GOD JUDGES - THE WORD OF GOD JUDGES - USING IT TO REVEAL THE SIN QUESTION IS SOMETHING ELSE.....AND THAT'S WHY I DON'T BELIEVE IN RELIGION....RELIGION IS MAN'S WAY TO GOD......THE WORD OF GOD IS GOD'S WAY TO GOD -
 
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Eagleridge

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Ok, how about lie as in to lay down horizontally. No sex act is specifically mentioned.
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LOL - TAKING DRUGS AND SMOKING ....ISN'T MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE EITHER.....THAT'S WHY I KEEP HIGHLIGHTING THE WORD SEX IN RED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WORD......THE WORD...HOMOSEXUALITY....I LOVE MY DAD, MY BROTHER, MY UNCLE, MY BUDDY....MY PASTOR...THAT'S CALLED FRIENDSHIP....... BUT I WOULD NEVER HAVE SEX WITH THEM.......THE DEFINITON OF HOMOSEXUALITY IS DEFINED IN THE FIRST CHAPTER OF THE BOOK OF ROMANS - AND YET, PEOPLE ARE STILL TRYING TO INTERPRET THAT - I JUST HAPPEN TO TAKE GOD AT HIS WORD....ALL OF IT.
 
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Eagleridge

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I appreciate it. Never have I called myself an atheist though; I just don't believe in God. There's a difference between that and being an atheist, because an atheist will do his best to present arguments why there is no God, but I'm not out to start such a discussion here. Basically I'm open to a lot of things, and this christian forum is just one of them. Like the apostle said: 'test everything, hold on to the good.' We will see how it goes...
GREAT ATTITUDE NEWCAUSE - LOVE IT - THAT'S RIGHT - NOTHING WRONG WITH TESTING THE WATERS - I EVEN LIKE THE CHALLENGE WHEN THE "SPIRIT...THE ATTITUDE" IS RIGHT - KEEP ON TRUCKING YOUNG MAN - GOD WILL BE ABLE TO GET A HOLD OF YOUR HEART - IT'S NOT CLOSED - LORD BLESS