God's freewill vs. Mankind's election

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eternally-gratefull

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Faith is a trust and assurance in the promises of God based on his son.,

If you do not trust him to forgive you completely based on his sons one act of love, and that he will save you and give you a life which is eternal and will NEVER FADE AWAY. then you do not have faith in God,, You may believe in him, but there is no trust, your faith is dead.
 
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James 2:19 [SUP]19 [/SUP]Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
 
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*Just felt like shooting the 12 gauge that time..........
 
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Abiding

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​Jesus believed in free will!!! Thats why He prayed so much.
 
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Stephen63 said:
I had to get off here for a few days so I wouldn't backslide & become a Bible-thumping-slamming moron. I've only been back for 2 hours & I'm slipping again!:rolleyes:
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hi stephen:
this Bible-thumping-slamming moron will take a few days off.
 
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That's the thing about shotgun preachin'....... ya always know yer gonna hit somebody.........;)
 
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eternally-gratefull

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cfultz3 said:
lol my fellow Kentuckian, I will make sure you will never get my address :)
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Being in Ohio myself,. he is pretty close to me also.. But I have a .38 and semi auto rifle.. I think I can take him lol
 
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Stephen i hear your taking some time away?:p
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Stephen63 said:
With a double-barreled sawed-off under my coat, ya won't even see me comin'......
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I better not see ya. With my rifle I will cut ya off before you get close enough to use that thing......lol
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Abiding said:
I would use nothing bigger than my slingshot
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You better have the faith of david then. Or I am not comming any where near you unless I am armed to the teeth!!
 
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BarlyGurl

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cfultz3 said:
Originally Posted by cfultz3

So, the question then is who persuades us? Is it not so that one is trusted when they have gained our confidence? So faith (persuasion of there must be a higher being (noun)) is given to all, but it is we who place that confidence (to believe (the verb)) and who builds that trust (faith (verb)) up when we began to trust more and more the one we placed that confidence in the first place.
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I do like the way that is worded... but I am still unclear if you are saying... the intellect/reasoning power... is the faith we are all given?
[h=2]faith[/h] [feyth] Show IPA
noun1.confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.

2.belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.

3.belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims.

4.belief in anything, as a code of ethics, standards of merit, etc.: to be of the same faith with someoneconcerning honesty.

5.a system of religious belief: the Christian faith; the Jewish faith.



Faith deffintion one and two... can be anything... eg light switch. I am saying no spritual context is neccessary for people to exercise faith... so some hardened atheist is stilll operating faith when he goes into the loo and flips the light switch and expects the light to come on. If I get a letter my friend is coming to town on X day and will be a y place at z oclock please meet them... I am exercising faith (a belief) when I go there at xyz to meet them.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Stephen63 said:
I'll be on my skateboard. If i miss, I'll already have a quarter-mile head start....LOL!
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lol,, If ya get that close, I will just get my .38,. The whole going in may be small. but the exit wound will be as big as a softball if not bigger..
 
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