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Oh dear, classic response
So tell me Bowman do you go to a church where the minister plainly states from the pulpit
'If you believe Jesus is the son of God but not God Himself you cannot inherit eternal life with that belief, therefore you are condemned, damned and will go to hell?
Like I say, the Trinitarian ministers in the UK will not plainly preach that from the pulpit, but obviously I do not know what the mniisters in the states preach in that regard. Going by the deafening silence in response to my question, I am guessing not many do preach it
Which means that most of you on this website, who passionately believe a person must believe Christ is God Himself unto salvation, leave here, and happily sit in churches each week where the minister refuses to plainly preach from the pulpit what to you eternal life hinges on believing in regard to what is acceptable and unacceptable belief as to who Christ is and the consequences of getting it wrong
What is your response?
Do you all go up to your ministers and ask them why they will not plainly preach what to you is the core of the faith and the Gospel i have mentioned
Nah, you just sit there don't you and say nothing
Well I'll tell you something Bowman. I could never sit in any church if I believed the minister so woefully neglected his duty to to the flock by not plainly telling them what I believed eternal life hinged on believing and the consequences of getting it wrong, never.
But you know what(and I speak concerning what I know of, the churches in the uk) this is an internet thing
I told two Baptist ministers what the likes of you, Zone and Elin stated on websites, you know what they did
Shook their heads in disbelief and laughed, and that is the truth Bowman, no word of a lie.
You need to understand the spiritual reality, many on the internet do not
So tell me Bowman do you go to a church where the minister plainly states from the pulpit
'If you believe Jesus is the son of God but not God Himself you cannot inherit eternal life with that belief, therefore you are condemned, damned and will go to hell?
Like I say, the Trinitarian ministers in the UK will not plainly preach that from the pulpit, but obviously I do not know what the mniisters in the states preach in that regard. Going by the deafening silence in response to my question, I am guessing not many do preach it
Which means that most of you on this website, who passionately believe a person must believe Christ is God Himself unto salvation, leave here, and happily sit in churches each week where the minister refuses to plainly preach from the pulpit what to you eternal life hinges on believing in regard to what is acceptable and unacceptable belief as to who Christ is and the consequences of getting it wrong
What is your response?
Do you all go up to your ministers and ask them why they will not plainly preach what to you is the core of the faith and the Gospel i have mentioned
Nah, you just sit there don't you and say nothing
Well I'll tell you something Bowman. I could never sit in any church if I believed the minister so woefully neglected his duty to to the flock by not plainly telling them what I believed eternal life hinged on believing and the consequences of getting it wrong, never.
But you know what(and I speak concerning what I know of, the churches in the uk) this is an internet thing
I told two Baptist ministers what the likes of you, Zone and Elin stated on websites, you know what they did
Shook their heads in disbelief and laughed, and that is the truth Bowman, no word of a lie.
You need to understand the spiritual reality, many on the internet do not
I only hope by answering I do not get suspended from the site. . .I do go to a site where discussion on this topic is allowed as long as people remain civil but I will go ahead and tell you what I understand the Trinity doctrine teaches:
God is the Father, God is the Son and God is the Holy Spirit. The Son is not the Father, the Son is not the Holy Spirit neither is the Father the Holy Spirit but yet all three are ONE God. . . .If a person does not believe this then they are not saved because it takes a "truly" saved person to "see" the Trinity.
God is the Father, God is the Son and God is the Holy Spirit. The Son is not the Father, the Son is not the Holy Spirit neither is the Father the Holy Spirit but yet all three are ONE God. . . .If a person does not believe this then they are not saved because it takes a "truly" saved person to "see" the Trinity.
Oh, I guess it doesn't matter then if a minister preaches the Gospel eternal life hinges on and the consequences of getting it wrong
I am not saying I don't belkieve you, but I would like to hear the sermon where the minister plainly states if you simply believe Christ is the son of God you are damned and will go to hell
I do beklieve a few churches in the states may preach it BTW
So why will you not condemn any church that will not plainly preach it if yours does, I don't understand.
I am not saying I don't belkieve you, but I would like to hear the sermon where the minister plainly states if you simply believe Christ is the son of God you are damned and will go to hell
I do beklieve a few churches in the states may preach it BTW
So why will you not condemn any church that will not plainly preach it if yours does, I don't understand.
Really
Christ plainly stated a person must believe he is the son of God to inherit eternal life, he never went beyond that
Can a person being led of the Holy Spirit refuse to accept the requirement of belief Christ himself laid down as to who a person must believe him to be to inherit eternal life by adding to it?
Only in Trinitarian terms if the Spirit of God can contradict the word of God
Then again in Trinitarian terms that must mean God contradicts God and the belief collapses.
So who is the counterfiet?
BTW
Your respnse adressed nothingt in my post that I could see
Christ plainly stated a person must believe he is the son of God to inherit eternal life, he never went beyond that
Can a person being led of the Holy Spirit refuse to accept the requirement of belief Christ himself laid down as to who a person must believe him to be to inherit eternal life by adding to it?
Only in Trinitarian terms if the Spirit of God can contradict the word of God
Then again in Trinitarian terms that must mean God contradicts God and the belief collapses.
So who is the counterfiet?
BTW
Your respnse adressed nothingt in my post that I could see
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