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Do you utterly condemn as unfit to be a minister any preacher who will not stand in the pulpit and plainly state what to you is the foundational belief of the faith, and one that will not plainly state from the pulpit if a person believes jesus is the son of God, but not God Himself they cannot be saved with that belief, and are therefore damned and will go to hell(your belief)
For I am assuming you passionately believe it is the fundamental responsibility and obligation of a minister to plainly state from the pulpit what is and what is not acceptable belief unto salvation concenring the person of who Christ is and the consequences of getting it wrong
Will you answer the above now Zone?
FORTHRIGHTLY
Doesn't it cut you up inside every time a mniister refuses to plainly state from the pulpit what to you is the core of Christian faith
And is there not anguish in your heart if a minister plainly refuses to state to their flock loudly and clearly what is and what is not acceptable belief as to who Christ is unto salvation and the consequences of getting it worng
Are you not grieved and driven to despair for the flock where this is not plainly and clearly stated from the pulpit
You should be, i would be if I believed what you did
Personally I could never sit in a church if the mniister refused to plainly state salvational belief plainly and clearly and the consequences of getting ot wrong, that's just my opinion though
For I am assuming you passionately believe it is the fundamental responsibility and obligation of a minister to plainly state from the pulpit what is and what is not acceptable belief unto salvation concenring the person of who Christ is and the consequences of getting it wrong
Will you answer the above now Zone?
FORTHRIGHTLY
Doesn't it cut you up inside every time a mniister refuses to plainly state from the pulpit what to you is the core of Christian faith
And is there not anguish in your heart if a minister plainly refuses to state to their flock loudly and clearly what is and what is not acceptable belief as to who Christ is unto salvation and the consequences of getting it worng
Are you not grieved and driven to despair for the flock where this is not plainly and clearly stated from the pulpit
You should be, i would be if I believed what you did
Personally I could never sit in a church if the mniister refused to plainly state salvational belief plainly and clearly and the consequences of getting ot wrong, that's just my opinion though
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"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1
"I told you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am, you will die in your sins." John 8:24
"Have this attitude in yourself which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although he existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself taking on the form of a bondservant, and being made in the likeness of men." Phil. 2:5-7 - Paul
"Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ. To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ." 2 Peter 1:1 - Peter
"In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1 - John
"My brothers, show no partiality as you hold the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory." James 2:1
"I told you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am, you will die in your sins." John 8:24
"Have this attitude in yourself which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although he existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself taking on the form of a bondservant, and being made in the likeness of men." Phil. 2:5-7 - Paul
"Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ. To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ." 2 Peter 1:1 - Peter
"In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1 - John
"My brothers, show no partiality as you hold the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory." James 2:1
Excuse me, but how many conversations can I be expected to have at one time
My advice would be to forget swapping scripturtes, I have probabaly had all the ones you can place before me placed in the past anyways.
My only beef here, is the salvational belief unto eternal life, show me plain scruipture to show me my belief is wrong
And I know if we had a scripture quoting contest you would ignore much of what I placed before you. I am past that stage. I just want to know the scripture people have that states a person must believe Christ is God himself unto salvation
My advice would be to forget swapping scripturtes, I have probabaly had all the ones you can place before me placed in the past anyways.
My only beef here, is the salvational belief unto eternal life, show me plain scruipture to show me my belief is wrong
And I know if we had a scripture quoting contest you would ignore much of what I placed before you. I am past that stage. I just want to know the scripture people have that states a person must believe Christ is God himself unto salvation
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1
"I told you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am, you will die in your sins." John 8:24
"Have this attitude in yourself which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although he existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself taking on the form of a bondservant, and being made in the likeness of men." Phil. 2:5-7 - Paul
"Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ. To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ." 2 Peter 1:1 - Peter
"In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1 - John
"My brothers, show no partiality as you hold the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory." James 2:1
"I told you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am, you will die in your sins." John 8:24
"Have this attitude in yourself which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although he existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself taking on the form of a bondservant, and being made in the likeness of men." Phil. 2:5-7 - Paul
"Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ. To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ." 2 Peter 1:1 - Peter
"In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1 - John
"My brothers, show no partiality as you hold the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory." James 2:1
But it seems you want me to accept your scriptures as written
Sigh Sigh
If I have time later I will respond to the
'Great God and Saviour quote'
But it seems I am expected to have discourse with half a dozen people at once.
I ain't that sharp ya know!
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1
"I told you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am, you will die in your sins." John 8:24
"Have this attitude in yourself which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although he existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself taking on the form of a bondservant, and being made in the likeness of men." Phil. 2:5-7 - Paul
"Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ. To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ." 2 Peter 1:1 - Peter
"In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1 - John
"My brothers, show no partiality as you hold the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory." James 2:1
"I told you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am, you will die in your sins." John 8:24
"Have this attitude in yourself which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although he existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself taking on the form of a bondservant, and being made in the likeness of men." Phil. 2:5-7 - Paul
"Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ. To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ." 2 Peter 1:1 - Peter
"In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1 - John
"My brothers, show no partiality as you hold the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory." James 2:1
You get 2 out of 10 for trying to answer the difficult question. That was for attempting an answer!
You get no more points because you will not passionately keep to your stance on this website where ministers in Trinitarian churches are concerned
No points for deflection or fudge
Your respnse was ill timed bearing in mind what my reply to Hopespring referred to
For you have refused to condemn as unfit to preach(what the post referred to) those who will not plainly tell their flock the salvational belief required from the pulpit concerning who Christ is and the consequences of gertting it wrong(according to your belief)
For you have refused to condemn as unfit to preach(what the post referred to) those who will not plainly tell their flock the salvational belief required from the pulpit concerning who Christ is and the consequences of gertting it wrong(according to your belief)
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Totally untrue. You teach 1/2 of the plain teaching of Jesus. In fact when i gave you Jesus very words
that He is God you said they meant nothing. Ha
Trivial fact. Everytime one like you comes to cc. They start talking about how they are soon
probably gona get banned. Then poof they get banned. self prophecy?
that He is God you said they meant nothing. Ha
Trivial fact. Everytime one like you comes to cc. They start talking about how they are soon
probably gona get banned. Then poof they get banned. self prophecy?
squawwwwk…. ‘you didn’t answer my question’….. squawwwwk…. ‘you didn’t answer my question’….. squawwwwk…. ‘you didn’t answer my question’…..
Tell you what. If I do answer it, do you promise in front of people on this thread to then FORTHRIGHTLY WITHOUT DEFLECTION answer a question of mine?
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Like i said, Jesus is the Son of God. And Jesus Christ is God. And your trying to say that its a shell
game and souls are not going to be saved if they believe Jesus Christ is God.
Well thats both foolish and unbiblical. Your the one uncaring Mark. Your not teaching the whole
council of God. Your stuck on an issue that divides and your enjoying yourself in the limelight
which is what motivates most cult teachers.