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I can set here all day talking Scripture with you in love. But when it comes to polluting God's written word, that is a total different story.
So you refuse to say if you believe the KJV is corrupt-OK
But I have never heard anyone say that translation is corrupt before
 

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do you now, or will you at any time bend the knee to Jesus Christ the Son of God?

do you now, or will you at any time worship Jesus Christ The Son of God?
if you've already answered, i didn't see it.
could you answer?

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i may be on ignore.
could someone ask this question(s)?
 
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OK so you won't answer, fair enough

You see, on this website, as on another, somettimes I just believe in my Spirit that some people are led by the Holy Spirit and not the mind of man. And these people may say they do not agree with me that Christ is simply the son of God, but they do accept that according to the BIBLE a person simply has to acknowledge Christ is the Son of God unto salvation.
And they do not then speak of corrupt translations in order to get me to see things their way
 
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cfultz3

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if you've already answered, i didn't see it.
could you answer?

MARK:

i may be on ignore.
could someone ask this question(s)?

these are for you mark from zone
Originally Posted by zone


do you now, or will you at any time bend the knee to Jesus Christ the Son of God?

do you now, or will you at any time worship Jesus Christ The Son of God?
 
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these are for you mark from zone
Originally Posted by zone


do you now, or will you at any time bend the knee to Jesus Christ the Son of God?

do you now, or will you at any time worship Jesus Christ The Son of God?
Zone is on my ignore list, due to the fact she constantly wanted to ask me questions but never wanted to answer any.
And I have to say, that is not a good testimony for someone who has spent great amounts of time striving to learn of scholars and theologians
 
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cfultz3

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OK so you won't answer, fair enough

You see, on this website, as on another, somettimes I just believe in my Spirit that some people are led by the Holy Spirit and not the mind of man. And these people may say they do not agree with me that Christ is simply the son of God, but they do accept that according to the BIBLE a person simply has to acknowledge Christ is the Son of God unto salvation.
And they do not then speak of corrupt translations in order to get me to see things their way
By all means, it is the Spirit who convicts.

Me bringing up you using a corrupt translation has nothing to do with me wanting you to see things my way, but everything to do with you using a bible which is clearly written to a certain persuasion.
 
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By all means, it is the Spirit who convicts.

Me bringing up you using a corrupt translation has nothing to do with me wanting you to see things my way, but everything to do with you using a bible which is clearly written to a certain persuasion.
If you are not prepared to say if you believe the KJV is a corrupt translation, I think you would be better to drop the subject
 
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cfultz3

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Zone is on my ignore list, due to the fact she constantly wanted to ask me questions but never wanted to answere any.
And I have to say, that is not a good testimony for someone who has spent great amounts of time striving to learn of scholars and theologians
So in the near future, will you bow to Christ? Will you worship Jesus Christ the Son of God when it comes time to?
 
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cfultz3

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If you are not prepared to say if you believe the KJV is a corrupt translation, I think you would be better to drop the subject
I will drop the subject but will make sure people understand that the version you are using is corrupt to the nile. It simple does not lean to your favor when it is plainly seen that you refuse to see the error of using such a demoninational driven translation.
 
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So in the near future, will you bow to Christ? Will you worship Jesus Christ the Son of God when it comes time to?
I worship Christ as my Lord and Saviour vnow, but you will not respon=d to the scriptures I give you Cfultz, for you cannot, for they blow your man made doctrine away

I repeat. You have no verse of scripturee from the ENTIRE BIBLE that styates a person must believe Christ is God Himself unto salvation
I can give you many that say a person must believe he is the son of God unto salvation

So your beliefs are man made, mine are scriptural
 
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Zone is on my ignore list, due to the fact she constantly wanted to ask me questions but never wanted to answer any.
And I have to say, that is not a good testimony for someone who has spent great amounts of time striving to learn of scholars and theologians
You mean your constantly wanting to ask questions but not answer any:p
 
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cfultz3

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I worship Christ as my Lord and Saviour vnow, but you will not respon=d to the scriptures I give you Cfultz, for you cannot, for they blow your man made doctrine away

I repeat. You have no verse of scripturee from the ENTIRE BIBLE that styates a person must believe Christ is God Himself unto salvation
I can give you many that say a person must believe he is the son of God unto salvation

So your beliefs are man made, mine are scriptural
Again and again, I have told you that I have answered that question. How far do you think this accusation of saying people will not respond to you will take you? I do not mean to talk in this manner, but it is getting old.
 
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So in the near future, will you bow to Christ? Will you worship Jesus Christ the Son of God when it comes time to?
Are you relying on Zone now to ask questions Cfultz?
Zone is not led of the Holy Spirit in this matter, for she refuses to accept the requirement of belief Christ himself laid down as to who a person must believe him to be to inherit eternal life

If she were being led of the Holy Spirit, then the Spirit of God contradicts the word of GOD. In Trinitarian terms God then contradicts God and your belief collapses
The problem for you is, I have the plain scripture, you do not, that is why you are left scurrying around for questions without being able to rely on the plain words of scripture
 
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You mean your constantly wanting to ask questions but not answer any:p
Abiding, I know Zone is a friend of yours, but don't try and curry favour with her on this issue, you are backing the wrong horse
And as you have to constantly refuse to answer my oft repeated question you are hardly in a position to write what you do
 
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cfultz3

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Are you relying on Zone now to ask questions Cfultz? No. Just that you have her on ignore and she wants to ask these questions.
Zone is not led of the Holy Spirit in this matter, for she refuses to accept the requirement of belief Christ himself laid down as to who a person must believe him to be to inherit eternal life

If she were being led of the Holy Spirit, then the Spirit of God contradicts the word of GOD. In Trinitarian terms God then contradicts God and your belief collapses
The problem for you is, I have the plain scripture, you do not, that is why you are left scurrying around for questions without being able to rely on the plain words of scripture if you quote Scripture and I quote Scripture, then perhaps.....
First you say that you do not want to hear Scripture, so I comply. But every question I have can be backed up with Scripture. So, do you wish for me to quote SCripture now?
 
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Again and again, I have told you that I have answered that question. How far do you think this accusation of saying people will not respond to you will take you? I do not mean to talk in this manner, but it is getting old.
You see Cfultz, unfortunatelty you Zone, Abiding(and others) have what can only be described as a shallow form of Christianity, for you will not take your convictions beyond this website, hence why you all refuse to forthrightly answer my oft repeated question.
Now I have many faults and shortcomings, but that ain't one of them
 

Jon4TheCross

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I understand now.....you are one that believes that Christ is sitting besides the Father as a flesh and blood being!

If that is the case...why must we be "born again" into a spirit body? For even Jesus had to be "born again" before being accepted by the Father as a perfect sacrifice after His death!

Christ is with us because His "WORDS", if we read and do them, are with us.

John 16
[7] Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

Jesus HAD to leave so that He could present Himself as a sacrifice for sin. When that happened, when He left He left us with His words...which too are spirit.

John 6
[63] It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

That is what we now have...the "words" of Christ are with us...they are what dwells inside. His words are the spirit that is within.

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No, I never said flesh and blood is Christ from the beginning. You could consider it flesh and juice (fruit/nutrients and all that), or flesh and oil (like an olive). The mustard plant (or is it a small tree?) is another good example. We are missing out if we're not trying to eat all of the flesh of Christ, cause there's a bunch of leftovers that it seems that not many currently want. Joh_6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
 
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You see Cfultz, unfortunatelty you Zone, Abiding(and others) have what can only be described as a shallow form of Christianity, for you will not take your convictions beyond this website, hence why you all refuse to forthrightly answer my oft repeated question.
Now I have many faults and shortcomings, but that ain't one of them
Since you are stuck in this loop, I can only say good luck with yourself.
 
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First you say that you do not want to hear Scripture, so I comply. But every question I have can be backed up with Scripture. So, do you wish for me to quote SCripture now?
You have nothing that can be backed up with scripture unless the bible contradicts itself
For I have the plain scripture, you do not
And if you think you do

Please give me one verse of scripture form the entire bible that states Christ is the one true God Himself
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A person must believe Christ is the one true God Himself to inherit eternal life

Not verses that you extrapolate to mean the above