Is abortion murder?

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Elizabeth619

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then they should definitely be allowed acces to an abortion...who could blae her for not wanting to carry a rapists child
I know your stance on abortion, but the reason for me asking this is she was pretty well saying abortion wouldnt be a problem if it wasnt for whoredom. A rape victim is not a whore. She was violated against her will.

As far as abortion in rape cases. While it is a violent and horrid act, it is still murder. It is still the premeditated killing of a life.

If women turned to God more and asked for guidance and strength instead of being selfish and thinking of no one but theirself and their bodies then maybe there would be less abortion.
 

crossnote

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Do you think it would be better to give birth to all these unwanted children? What kind of life do you think they would have? God does not like abortion and if women were not commiting whoredom, premarital sex and adultery we wouldn't be having this discussion.
Also there are many in the wings wanting those 'unwanted' via adoption.
 
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You just do your own thing kiddo. You sound like you got all the answers.
It's so wonderful to hear the amazing depth of wisdom, coming from a 19 years old child like you.

let me share a little wisdom from Gods word.

Luke 13:3

I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
You are most likely a perfect example of one that did not need to be created.
19 years old mind full of mush. Perhaps you should have been aborted.
Anyone who needs to ask such a question is too stupid to live, and should have been aborted.
Got all the answers? when did i ever say that? I know i do not have all the answers. I even admit it. Which is more than some people do...

Ah, so you're gonna pull the "age card". So i'm only 19. so what? Age is irrelevant. and using it as a point just shows you have nothing better to say.

and if i did not need to be created then why did god create me?? so he does what is not needed? that explains alot...

Mind full of mush lol i don't know what is funnier here, the fact you said "mush" or the fact that you have resorted to insults.

too stupid to live? lol wow, you sound like a real christian alrite. people like you are the reason christians have a bad name. but hey, keep doin what you're doin. you're not hurting me, you're just hurting your fellow christians...

well i wasn't aborted so i guess god really wanted me in this world? hmm, i wonder why? maybe cuz he does not want me in heaven? that would make sense...

going back to that bible verse: yea, that just shows how god sends you to hell even if you don't repent of trivial little things. His whole point is: do what i want you to do or be punished.

it's like if you have two friends and the one friend wants you to choose which friend you want for a best friend and he says you can choose whichever one you want...but if you don't choose him then he will punish you...oh...yea, that sounds fair...
 

Elizabeth619

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Got all the answers? when did i ever say that? I know i do not have all the answers. I even admit it. Which is more than some people do...

Ah, so you're gonna pull the "age card". So i'm only 19. so what? Age is irrelevant. and using it as a point just shows you have nothing better to say.

and if i did not need to be created then why did god create me?? so he does what is not needed? that explains alot...

Mind full of mush lol i don't know what is funnier here, the fact you said "mush" or the fact that you have resorted to insults.

too stupid to live? lol wow, you sound like a real christian alrite. people like you are the reason christians have a bad name. but hey, keep doin what you're doin. you're not hurting me, you're just hurting your fellow christians...

well i wasn't aborted so i guess god really wanted me in this world? hmm, i wonder why? maybe cuz he does not want me in heaven? that would make sense...

going back to that bible verse: yea, that just shows how god sends you to hell even if you don't repent of trivial little things. His whole point is: do what i want you to do or be punished.

it's like if you have two friends and the one friend wants you to choose which friend you want for a best friend and he says you can choose whichever one you want...but if you don't choose him then he will punish you...oh...yea, that sounds fair...
No, you should not have been aborted.
God does love you.
You are not a mistake.
You're not stupid either.
You do have a purpose in life.

Just so you know no all belivers share the view David does. I'm sorry you were brutally attacked in such a way. His words were not at all acceptable.
I actually think you took it better than I did. I read all he said and my mouth dropped to the floor.
 

Elizabeth619

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I don't mind. lol I say much worse things to myself xD


That's the problem. I had a feeling you probably did. That's why I haven't "attacked" you.
I could be wrong, but I get the feeling there is a true reason why you are on this forum, and it isn't to "troll" or create controversy.
 
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What is the reason that you think that he did create us?
There is the greater probability that a purpose beyond that which you are allowing yourself to see on the surface is present on a much grander scope once you are able to not rely on your own understanding but ask God to give you understanding.

We are here for more than what we first believe we are here for.
Well, i think god was just bored and created us to have some entertainment. and yes i am not in doubt of planting such pettiness on god.

Well, of course there is a purpose for us. but that purpose could be a lot more sinister than you realize...

and i first believed i was here to be "happy". well that sure was not the case lol unless of course, you're one of those people who can be happy with what god wants you to be happy with...
 
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Just so you know no all belivers share the view David does. I'm sorry you were brutally attacked in such a way. His words were not at all acceptable.
I actually think you took it better than I did. I read all he said and my mouth dropped to the floor.
That's the problem. I had a feeling you probably did. That's why I haven't "attacked" you.
I could be wrong, but I get the feeling there is a true reason why you are on this forum, and it isn't to "troll" or create controversy.
Well honestly when i read what he said i just laughed xD You can't hurt someone who is already destroyed.

Well you should not attack trolls anyway as it will just fuel them.

and actually i used to be a "troll" but i left that behind. now i'm just honest with what i say.

although, with the way i am, sometimes people still see me as a "troll". but whatever... people can think what they want, i don't care.
 
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In a perfect world, when God establishes his kingdom; rape, incest and all sexual immorality will be a thing of the past. All human conceptions will be from married couples and abortion will only be allowed in the interest of the health of the mother, there are a lot of people who can't have children and would like to adopt.
 

superdave5221

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The problem with abortion is one of perception. Certain politically active groups have employed the highly emotional issue of "women's rights", and have used the issue of abortion as a rallying cry to gain media attention and sympathy for their cause. They have been highly successful.

The fact of the matter is that ABORTION IS NOT A GENDER ISSUE. IT IS A MORAL ISSUE.

Until people accept abortion as a moral issue, and become accountable for it as such, abortion will continue to take millions of lives every year.
 
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CDavid

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Why are you so bent out of shape, Dark Void of anything worth living for. Just keep on doing your own thing. Take that chance, you 19 year old pencil neck punk.

I'm not like the rest of the laissez faire Christians, you've been persecuting in the past, with your putrid blasphemies.
[h=3]2 Timothy 4:2[/h] Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

I rebuke and reprove all things dark and void of anything redeemable.
I'm a fire and brimstone haranguing holy roller, and proud of it.
You just keep on keeping on. Dig that hole deeper and deeper. You're going to want to crawl in it and hide on judgment day.
 
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nonicknametouse

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it is absolutely life. Abortion is concidered murder because we are taking life out of a womb that is being fearfully and wonderfully made.Psalms 139. God knows that child and when we take it upon ourselves to kill it, we may be taking a person that can be used of God in a mighty way. Children are a gift from God. Why take our sinful lifestyle out on an innocent baby. People worry more about saving dolphins , whales etc. than human life. Life has to start some where, and a fetus is life.
 
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jimmydiggs

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Do you think it would be better to give birth to all these unwanted children?
Absolutely.h

What kind of life do you think they would have?
What does that matter? Murder is murder.

God does not like abortion and if women were not commiting whoredom, premarital sex and adultery we wouldn't be having this discussion.
It would still be a discussion.
 

crossnote

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Why are you so bent out of shape, Dark Void of anything worth living for. Just keep on doing your own thing. Take that chance, you 19 year old pencil neck punk.

I'm not like the rest of the laissez faire Christians, you've been persecuting in the past, with your putrid blasphemies.
2 Timothy 4:2

Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

I rebuke and reprove all things dark and void of anything redeemable.
I'm a fire and brimstone haranguing holy roller, and proud of it.
You just keep on keeping on. Dig that hole deeper and deeper. You're going to want to crawl in it and hide on judgment day.
But for the grace of God there we go also.
 

zone

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Jesus died for that sin also.
 
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Abiding

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Why are you so bent out of shape, Dark Void of anything worth living for. Just keep on doing your own thing. Take that chance, you 19 year old pencil neck punk.

I'm not like the rest of the laissez faire Christians, you've been persecuting in the past, with your putrid blasphemies.
2 Timothy 4:2

Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

I rebuke and reprove all things dark and void of anything redeemable.
I'm a fire and brimstone haranguing holy roller, and proud of it.
You just keep on keeping on. Dig that hole deeper and deeper. You're going to want to crawl in it and hide on judgment day.
I need to read the thread before i deal with you. IF i cant find justification here seeing the age difference
Id say you best have a serious head injury to fall back on. k?
 
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Abiding

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Why are you so bent out of shape, Dark Void of anything worth living for. Just keep on doing your own thing. Take that chance, you 19 year old pencil neck punk.

I'm not like the rest of the laissez faire Christians, you've been persecuting in the past, with your putrid blasphemies.
2 Timothy 4:2

Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

I rebuke and reprove all things dark and void of anything redeemable.
I'm a fire and brimstone haranguing holy roller, and proud of it.
You just keep on keeping on. Dig that hole deeper and deeper. You're going to want to crawl in it and hide on judgment day.

Ok i read the thread and this is my opinion:


1 you were never 19
2 i hope you dont have children
3 it would be nice to hear you had a serious head injury.

Let me add a 4: is it fun to bully younguns in the name of God?
 
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