Is abortion murder?

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DarkVoid said:
here is what i don't get: why are christians so against abortion when an aborted child, according to your beliefs, will go straight to heaven. but if that child is born/raised in this world then there is a chance it will go to hell. so...do you really care about the child or not?

cuz allowing it to be born risks it suffering for eternity in hell whil abortion sends it straight to heaven...so what exactly is the problem with abortion?? lol just cuz it defies "gods will"?



well i would hope that the eternal well being of the child would be higher on your priority list than "gods will"

i'm not saying everyone should get abortions, i'm just saying i don't see why christians have such a problem with it if they really care so much about the child like they claim to...
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This was your first post in this thread and it clearly wasn't a direct respons to any of the other posts. It wasn't even an answer to the question we're trying to discuss here. It seems to me you tried to make a parody of what christians believe about human life. We believe it to be sacred, and from that belief comes responsibility, namely to protect the unborn child and to love it as a beloved child of God when it's born. So don't say we don't 'care.' On the contrary, in principle we care even more BECAUSE we see all human life as sacred. For a none believer a fetus could just be another unfortunate accident...

You apologize because I, and probably some other people here, got annoyed because you are trying to hijack and derail this thread? Instead maybe you should apologize because you hurt and offended a lot of people, doubting their ability and willingness as christians to really care for the unborn child and children in general.
 
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didymos said:
This was your first post in this thread and it clearly wasn't a direct respons to any of the other posts. It wasn't even an answer to the question we're trying to discuss here. It seems to me you tried to make a parody of what christians believe about human life. We believe it to be sacred, and from that belief comes responsibility, namely to protect the unborn child and to love it as a beloved child of God when it's born. So don't say we don't 'care.' On the contrary, in principle we care even more BECAUSE we see all human life as sacred. For a none believer a fetus could just be another unfortunate accident...

You apologize because I, and probably some other people here, got annoyed because you are trying to hijack and derail this thread? Instead maybe you should apologize because you hurt and offended a lot of people, doubting their ability and willingness as christians to really care for the unborn child and children in general.
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What do you mean "were trying to discuss"? your not even part of this discussion.
Why not go find someone else to unwind on K?
Youve not been in this thread at all
 
yes those picky folks got too many choices...maybe that was my fault
maybe shouldnt have gave them airfresheners there spoiled now.
 
I became a part of this discussion the moment I started reading it. I'm even more a part of it than you know, since this subject is close to my heart. I'm not trying to 'unwind' here though, but I AM speaking from personal experience. No offense, but I don't see what's your problem with me posting here.
 
didymos said:
This was your first post in this thread and it clearly wasn't a direct respons to any of the other posts. It wasn't even an answer to the question we're trying to discuss here. It seems to me you tried to make a parody of what christians believe about human life. We believe it to be sacred, and from that belief comes responsibility, namely to protect the unborn child and to love it as a beloved child of God when it's born. So don't say we don't 'care.' On the contrary, in principle we care even more BECAUSE we see all human life as sacred. For a none believer a fetus could just be another unfortunate accident...

You apologize because I, and probably some other people here, got annoyed because you are trying to hijack and derail this thread? Instead maybe you should apologize because you hurt and offended a lot of people, doubting their ability and willingness as christians to really care for the unborn child and children in general.
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well it was a thread on abortion...its not like i said something completely off topic -.-

i was not "doubting" anyones "willingless" ... i just saw something about your beliefs that did not make sense to me...
 
didymos said:
I became a part of this discussion the moment I started reading it. I'm even more a part of it than you know, since this subject is close to my heart. I'm not trying to 'unwind' here though, but I AM speaking from personal experience. No offense, but I don't see what's your problem with me posting here.
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Post away just dont tell folks to leave its not in your paygrade
 
I see then your gona serve them for eternity
or are you gona walk off and let em whine?
 
As P.O.D. (Payable On Death) put it, yes, 'Abortion is Murder'. They even wrote a song with that title. The song was written in the early 90's, so it's passionate but hard-hitting. Here are the lyrics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueIRuqFyZ1o

Yeah it's the P.O.D. right here
Coming straight from the S.D.C. -A
619's in affect, know what I'm sayin
Givin you that hardcore sound yeah
Comin' up from the ground
That's where it all started y'know what I'm sayin?
Yeah, this is hardcore, you why it's so hardcore
Cuz it's built on the rock - what rock you ask
The rock of Jesus Christ, yeah that's right
Givin you the truth cuz the truth hurts y'know
But that's how we sayin' it's down
We ain't got nothing to hide
And We're breakin it down like that y'know what I'm sayin
Hardlove, hardlove one way yeah, check it out

Abortion is murder
There's nothing you can say or do
to justify the fact
That there's a living breathing baby inside of you
3x
Abortion is murder
8x
Abortion is murder
There's nothing you can say or do
to justify the fact
that there's a living breathing baby inside of you
2x
Abortion is murder
12x
Murder murder murder murder
Abortion is murder
6x
 
Abiding said:
Post away just dont tell folks to leave its not in your paygrade
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Unlike you I'm not telling anyone to 'leave;' you even told me in Lounge not to 'blitz the forums' or something, but left before I got a chance to respond.

No worries, I will 'post away' whenever I feel the need.
 
Abiding said:
I see then your gona serve them for eternity
or are you gona walk off and let em whine?
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well since i was the one who created them they are my responsibility so i shud take care of them...

if i did not wanna take care of them then shud not have created them.

even if "taking care" of them is just giving them what they want and leaving them alone LOL
 
ok 56 trillion years later and their really fussing now and killing and stealing and still
whining ...so your still having fun right? them cute witto waskals
 
Abiding said:
whatcha gona do with em?
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I am quite new to this site and I think it is such a valuable place for us to meet, discuss & learn. But I am saddened by the way many here declare their Christian faith yet are so aggressive to get others to see their viewpoint. This is not love. By all means, tell it as you believe it but please remember, not all here are Christian and not everyone here will understand Scriptures in the same way. You may think they 'should' but they won't. New visitors to this site (like me) see so much point scoring and biting...the scriptures many of you post at the foot of your posts do seem to not appear to reflect what comes out of your mouths and onto the page. By all means, say what you believe, but where is the love? I am quite sure many seeking Christians may visit, read some of these pots and think...well if this is a reflection of what being a Christian is all about, i am better off without it!
 
Abiding said:
ok 56 trillion years later and their really fussing now and killing and stealing and still
whining ...so your still having fun right? them cute witto waskals
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well i'll put each one that wants to kill and stuff in a virtual world where they can do so all they want lol

cuz its not hurting anyone that way. then just check in on them once every few hundred years hahah

i mean they cant die...so they will be ok xD
 
DarkVoid said:
well i'll put each one that wants to kill and stuff in a virtual world where they can do so all they want lol

cuz its not hurting anyone that way. then just check in on them once every few hundred years hahah

i mean they cant die...so they will be ok xD
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Ta Da you just described hell:p
 
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